Hacking Badge for day one boot9strap installers

hab · May 21, 2017

Here my prof for the badge.

Thanks

TheCyberQuake · May 21, 2017

hab said:
Here my prof for the badge.

Thanks

Bro I think it's time to clean your 3ds screens...

hab · May 21, 2017

i did after i took the pictures

Xppp1 · May 21, 2017

hab said:
i did after i took the pictures

Too little too late then

Sonic Angel Knight · May 21, 2017

@The Real Jdbye I think i did answer this question already, future luma updates will only support this method, unless you happy with luma 7.0.5 or don't use luma and hope no other CFW goes to only supporting this method, then i guess is no real reason. For now there isn't much to the end user like you or me, but i suppose sometime soon it will be more of a reason to do it.

AleAle-20 · May 21, 2017

The Real Jdbye · May 21, 2017

FateForWindows said:
Sorry to triplepost, but I did it this morning. It's within the first 24 hours so does it count?

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You can also make direct modifications to the FIRM partitions (meaning direct booting of Luma without a .firm payload which can speed up boot drastically).

That's true, but the speed gains from it are minimal. It's a benefit, but not really an important one.

TheCyberQuake said:
Well if you want to legimitately obtain your bootrom then it's the only current way.
Other than that B9S is essentially a glorified update to a9lh, at least for now. But nothing has yet been made to fully utilize it, so for now it's more just our previous things being converted to the proper format.
tl;dr no real changes as of right now, but it does open the door to other possibilites in the future.

Bootrom is not useful to anyone but devs right now and likely never will be. Keys sure, but the only keys that aren't obtainable with a pre-A9LH OTP dump are universal, and you don't need to dump your own bootrom to get those, you just need someone to upload them (which will definitely happen within a couple weeks, if not days)

Sonic Angel Knight said:
@The Real Jdbye I think i did answer this question already, future luma updates will only support this method, unless you happy with luma 7.0.5 or don't use luma and hope no other CFW goes to only supporting this method, then i guess is no real reason. For now there isn't much to the end user like you or me, but i suppose sometime soon it will be more of a reason to do it.

That's not a fault of A9LH though. That's just Aurora Wright deciding all of a sudden to stop supporting A9LH. So it doesn't really count as a pro for B9S. Besides, there are other CFWs that work just as well.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think it was stupid of Aurora Wright to drop A9LH support the moment B9S released. She has given me some fair reasons as to why it was dropped (technical difficulties in keeping A9LH compatibility while adding B9S support and being on time constraints), which is a decent enough reason to drop support, but this early on I think it would have made sense to continue support for at least a couple of months to give time to move over. The fact that the only reason people ever point out as a reason to move to B9S is "Future Luma versions won't support it" just shows how pointless it actually is for most people.

Edit: s/A9LH/Luma/

pastaconsumer · May 21, 2017

Nevermind

TheCyberQuake · May 21, 2017

The Real Jdbye said:
and you don't need to dump your own bootrom to get those, you just need someone to upload them (which will definitely happen within a couple weeks, if not days)

I think you missed the part where I said "legitimately obtain your bootrom". Of course it will be online eventually. But if you want to be somewhat in a legal grey area instead of outright illegal then you would want to dump them yourselves.
You also obviously missed the other points I made. It's obviously not going to instantly grant miracles. Even a9lh took some time to get fully developed tools made for it. I remember at one point it was just "theoretically" possible to recover a sysNAND brick with a9lh because we didn't even have the tools yet to actually restore NAND dump.

Excalibur007 · May 21, 2017

Since I don't see a button for attachments in a PM...

Here's a pic. Updated early this morning.

PrincessLillie · May 21, 2017

Sonic Angel Knight said:
Guess I'll join then. Perhaps I'll use it on my 3DS and some other systems.

You don't use it on the 3DS. It goes in your signature. You could probably convert it to a custom badge though...

F4LK said:
How about this:

I like it! Maybe I'll make one.

Sonic Angel Knight · May 21, 2017

The Real Jdbye said:
That's not a fault of A9LH though. That's just Aurora Wright deciding all of a sudden to stop supporting A9LH. So it doesn't really count as a pro for B9S. Besides, there are other CFWs that work just as well.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think it was stupid of Aurora Wright to drop A9LH support the moment B9S released. She has given me some fair reasons as to why it was dropped (technical difficulties in keeping A9LH compatibility while adding B9S support and being on time constraints), which is a decent enough reason to drop support, but this early on I think it would have made sense to continue support for at least a couple of months to give time to move over. The fact that the only reason people ever point out as a reason to move to B9S is "Future Luma versions won't support it" just shows how pointless it actually is for most people.

I keep saying is nothing to users like us right now, is a dev thing, i'm not a dev and i assume you aren't either based on your opinion, so no there is no real reason for to use it right now. BUT sometime there will be in the future to use it. That is all i can say cause is what i know.

Assuming we understand that while i don't really get the ins and outs of things and the explanation to things for the common user of CFW, is just how it is. Had it been something like "Sighax is like psp permanent CFW, you always have CFW, including recovery, and some powerful customization setups." Maybe it sounds better than just saying "It can sign cfw to make it 'legit' firmware" Or whatever. Still if people can actually explain "What does sighax/bootstrap9 mean for me?" That be nice. But to just hear, nothing too serious at the moment, but soon, sure is nothing to do with you now. So all we can do is just keep waiting until you have a reason to use it and decide if you want to.

izumo · May 21, 2017

Xabring · May 21, 2017

Send ya a PM, did I make it in time?

V0ltr0n · May 21, 2017

Xabring said:
Send ya a PM, did I make it in time?

Quote from OP:
"I'll keep applications open for a week (say ending Sunday 28th May 11:59pm AEST) to give people a chance to notice"
There are a lot of ppl signing up. Just give it some time. Everyone will be registered eventually.

Platinum Lucario · May 21, 2017

Just so you know, I installed sighax earlier on. If you need any more proof, let me know.

TheCyberQuake · May 21, 2017

Sonic Angel Knight said:
I keep saying is nothing to users like us right now, is a dev thing, i'm not a dev and i assume you aren't either based on your opinion, so no there is no real reason for to use it right now. BUT sometime there will be in the future to use it. That is all i can say cause is what i know.

Assuming we understand that while i don't really get the ins and outs of things and the explanation to things for the common user of CFW, is just how it is. Had it been something like "Sighax is like psp permanent CFW, you always have CFW, including recovery, and some powerful customization setups." Maybe it sounds better than just saying "It can sign cfw to make it 'legit' firmware" Or whatever. Still if people can actually explain "What does sighax/bootstrap9 mean for me?" That be nice. But to just hear, nothing too serious at the moment, but soon, sure is nothing to do with you now. So all we can do is just keep waiting until you have a reason to use it and decide if you want to.

Sighax is for devs, but unlike the first releases of a9lh, b9s is already even more user friendly to install. So maybe not worth for a9lh users to go to immediately, but for any new users why bother installing a9lh when it's easier and safer to just install boot9strap anyway? Plus its so easy to upgrade from a9lh people can just get it done now to be ready for things to come in the future
Note: to avoid confusion, sighax refers to the derrek release, not the general exploit

hobbledehoy899 · May 21, 2017

Sent my image.

Gray_Jack · May 21, 2017

TheCyberQuake said:
Sighax is for devs, but unlike the first releases of a9lh, b9s is already even more user friendly to install. So maybe not worth for a9lh users to go to immediately, but for any new users why bother installing a9lh when it's easier and safer to just install boot9strap anyway? Plus its so easy to upgrade from a9lh people can just get it done now to be ready for things to come in the future
Note: to avoid confusion, sighax refers to the derrek release, not the general exploit

But that is the thing, Derrek release is just the installer, it should not be compared to Boot9Strap, it should be compared with SafeB9SInstaller.
You can install Boot9Strap using Derrek installer (though not recommended right now) or using SafeB9SInstaller (Recommended)

Joshwraith · May 21, 2017

I already upgraded from A9lh to boot9strap but I don't have my screenshot ready but I wonder: What's the whole point on this verified badge thing ?

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