Introducing NINJHAX - A Nintendo 3DS Homebrew Exploit!

matpower · Nov 17, 2014

the_randomizer said:
Android devices aren't the problem, it's that people don't bother making good ports. Take the Shield for example, very powerful, but the N64 emulators are poorly written for Android.

N64 is just too hard to emulate, heck, even Mupen64Plus on PC got issues with obscure games.

DutchyDutch · Nov 17, 2014

Edgarska said:
Even greatly coded, an Android device wouldn't be able to run Dolphin properly right now, they're just not powerful enough.

This.
the_randomizer
Making an GC emulator for Android isn't as easy as it sounds.

chartube12 · Nov 17, 2014

iSubaru said:
PSX is PS2 not PS (PS1)
.

Your 50% wrong. There were problems with copy rights back in the day in North America, thus many playstation products (even official ones) got labeled PSx.

iSubaru · Nov 17, 2014

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3530/psx5100wo6.jpg
I am aware that habbits and other stuff made it to call PS "1" a PSX but image above proves a lot.
The genesis of the PSX is PS2, that's my point.

Considering that the GBA/DS got a nearly perfect SMS/GG emulator, I am sure we will get one for the 3DS too.

True it's technically more than enough to emulate SMS/GG console.
I like GameGear for one particular reason, Tails Adventure game =

=

MyJoyConRunsHot · Nov 17, 2014

DutchyDutch said:
Um... 3DS gpu pushes ALOT less than that.
From Wikipedia:
''

vertex performance: 15.3 Mpolygon/s[7]

40Mtriangle/s @100 MHz[2]

160Mtriangle/s @400 MHz''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PICA200

However, 3DS seems to be capable of normal mapping, which adds almost the same amount of detail on a higher poly model.

To be precise, the GPU is clocked at 268Mhz, so it pushes 21 Mpolygons right now.
At 400Mhz it pushes 40 Mpolygons.

matpower · Nov 17, 2014

iSubaru said:
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3530/psx5100wo6.jpg
I am aware that habbits and other stuff made it to call PS "1" a PSX but image above proves a lot.
The genesis of the PSX is PS2, that's my point.

True it's technically more than enough to emulate SMS/GG console.
I like GameGear for one particular reason, Tails Adventure game ==

Yeah, people call the PS1 "PSX" because it was its codename back in the day, also that would explain why a lot of PS1 stuff is labeled PSx in the US.

Anyway, I think Tails Adventure is on VC, it is a nice game.

(Do your name got any relation with a DS game btw? I always wanted to ask that

)

Esppiral · Nov 17, 2014

The 3ds is way, way underpowered compared to the Wii, it has better shader capabilities tough, that's all, Wii pushes a lot more polys on screen, not to mention both its GPU and CPU are stronger than the 3DS's.

I still can't believe people think that the 3ds is more powerful than the Wii.

chartube12 · Nov 17, 2014

Esppiral said:
The 3ds is way, way underpowered compared to the Wii, it has better shader capabilities tough, that's all, Wii pushes a lot more polys on screen, not to mention both its GPU and CPU are stronger than the 3DS's.

I still can't believe people think that the 3ds is more powerful than the Wii.

This. The New 3DS may be on bar with the Wii if they did truly double both the cpu and gpu cores though.

iSubaru · Nov 17, 2014

Anyway, I think Tails Adventure is on VC, it is a nice game.

Virtual Console? Hmm now I'm curious, gonna check in a sec~

(Do your name got any relation with a DS game btw? I always wanted to ask that )

Yes, somewhat.
The full name is Subaru Hoshikawa from Ryuusei no Rockman game (later named in US/EU as Megaman Star Force and main hero...ugh don't make me spell it ;p).
The "i" was added some time later when I got my hands on iPhone 3G and in some places "Subaru" was taken by someone else.
Today the "i" stuff is deprecated a lot but on forums I have already registered it can't be changed so I must stick with it.

According to my clock...
4 Days, 2 Hours, 45 minutes remaining~

EDIT #1
Tails Adventure exists for 3DS eShop Virtual Console indeed, 5 Euro for it o_o

FusionGamer · Nov 17, 2014

So. the 3DS gets a Homebrew Channel before the Wii U?

matpower · Nov 17, 2014

iSubaru said:
Virtual Console? Hmm now I'm curious, gonna check in a sec~

Yes, somewhat.
The full name is Subaru Hoshikawa from Ryuusei no Rockman game (later named in US/EU as Megaman Star Force and main hero...ugh don't make me spell it ;p).
The "i" was added some time later when I got my hands on iPhone 3G and in some places "Subaru" was taken by someone else.
Today the "i" stuff is deprecated a lot but on forums I have already registered it can't be changed so I must stick with it.

According to my clock...
4 Days, 2 Hours, 45 minutes remaining~

EDIT #1
Tails Adventure exists for 3DS eShop Virtual Console indeed, 5 Euro for it o_o

Yep, I knew it.

(And what is wrong with Geo's name anyway?)

FusionGamer said:
So. the 3DS gets a Homebrew Channel before the Wii U?

Not exactly a "channel", but we had 3DS homebrew before that anyway.

iSubaru · Nov 17, 2014

Yep, I knew it. (And what is wrong with Geo's name anyway?)

More or less translating Subaru Hoshikawa means "Stars Pleiad"
Geo implicates geo as Earth, completely different object, also personally I don't like the sound of the name.

Now I think about it, I wish SEGA would do more Tails games with him as main character.
Not to mention more Sonic games with Tails playable...
Sonic Adventure for the win.

matpower · Nov 17, 2014

iSubaru said:
More or less translating Subaru Hoshikawa means "Stars Pleiad"
Geo implicates geo as Earth, completely different object, also personally I don't like the sound of the name.

Now I think about it, I wish SEGA would do more Tails games with him as main character.
Not to mention more Sonic games with Tails playable...
Sonic Adventure for the win.

Well, there is always Sonic Boom... wait.

Sonic games suffer from the "too many characters but no use for them" syndrome. Geo's name fits on the context for the game, even if it is super weird.

On Topic: If the New 3DS' only upgrade is extra cores, I don't think it will help with emulation, since most emulators only use single-cores most of the time AFAIK.

Arique · Nov 17, 2014

drwhojan said:
So let me get this right .

1. go to website when it's available
2. input firmware version of you're 3DS are 3DS Xl , new 3DS
3. follow stuff that it tells you ...
4. use Normal 3ds game ?
5. power down and remove sd card to install homebrew stuff
6. place renamed boot.3dsx
7. restart 3DS - profit .

PS: You can re-right these steps better then me

Well, since you said that it's alright to rewrite the steps, here's my interpretation of it.
1. Go to Smealum's website when it drops on November 22nd. If the site goes down due to heavy traffic, keep an eye on the usual places that you visit for mirror links that may be posted.
2. Once there, select the firmware that your 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, or New 3DS system is currently on.
3. Follow the step-by-step instructions that are posted along with the download link.
4. Start up *Insert 3DS game here* on your 3DS system and follow along with the instructions.
5. Shut off your 3DS system and remove the SD Card so that SSSPwn can go into action.
6. Place the SD Card into your computer and add the renamed file boot.3dsx to your SD Card.
7. Restart your 3DS and check to see if SSSPwn successfully worked.
8. ????
9. PROFIT!

MyJoyConRunsHot · Nov 17, 2014

the_randomizer said:
Still doesn't make it easier. And besides, the 3DS has a 800 x 240 resolution per screen. So that makes it a bit more difficult for anything that's 640 x 480 (N64)

Honestly, resolution is the least of my worries.

drwhojan · Nov 17, 2014

Arique said:
Well, since you said that it's alright to rewrite the steps, here's my interpretation of it.
1. Go to Smealum's website when it drops on November 22nd. If the site goes down due to heavy traffic, keep an eye on the usual places that you visit for mirror links that may be posted.
2. Once there, select the firmware that your 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, or New 3DS system is currently on.
3. Follow the step-by-step instructions that are posted along with the download link.
4. Start up *Insert 3DS game here* on your 3DS system and follow along with the instructions.
5. Shut off your 3DS system and remove the SD Card so that SSSPwn can go into action.
6. Place the SD Card into your computer and add the renamed file boot.3dsx to your SD Card.
7. Restart your 3DS and check to see if SSSPwn successfully worked.
8. ????
9. PROFIT!

That's much better, Thank you

And there we go!, Hopefully Noob Free...

I'll keep it text file for when time comes .

MyJoyConRunsHot · Nov 17, 2014

matpower said:
Well, there is always Sonic Boom... wait.
Sonic games suffer from the "too many characters but no use for them" syndrome. Geo's name fits on the context for the game, even if it is super weird.

On Topic: If the New 3DS' only upgrade is extra cores, I don't think it will help with emulation, since most emulators only use single-cores most of the time AFAIK.

Some emulators on PC use more than one core for emulation, I don't see why the same couldn't be done on the 3DS.

MyJoyConRunsHot · Nov 17, 2014

Esppiral said:
The 3ds is way, way underpowered compared to the Wii, it has better shader capabilities tough, that's all, Wii pushes a lot more polys on screen, not to mention both its GPU and CPU are stronger than the 3DS's.

I still can't believe people think that the 3ds is more powerful than the Wii.

The 3DS has better architecture than the Wii in both departments and the GPU is definitely superior to the Hollywood, but the CPU is clocked too slow to even compete. The new 3DS is on par, though.

Oxybelis · Nov 17, 2014

spyro3dsguy said:
The 3DS has better architecture than the Wii in both departments and the GPU is definitely superior to the Hollywood, but the CPU is clocked too slow to even compete. The new 3DS is on par, though.

You again. Sigh.

spyro3dsguy said:
Some emulators on PC use more than one core for emulation, I don't see why the same couldn't be done on the 3DS.

Because for most systems it is very hard to utilize more than 1 core for emulation because it needs constant synchronization which kills perfomance.

MyJoyConRunsHot · Nov 17, 2014

Oxybelis said:
You again. Sigh.

Still trolling, eh?

Oxybelis said:
Because for most systems it is very hard to utilize more than 1 core for emulation because it needs constant synchronization which kills perfomance.

Thats not a rule, only in certain cases. Iust like there are cases where it will run no better than less cores, and there are cases where it runs better than less cores. The PCSX2 emulator just got 4 core support back in 2011 via SVN build 4866 but performance is not necessarily worse.

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