Hacking 3DS 6.3 Exploit Found

Vengenceonu · Apr 2, 2014

Wow the fighting ended without the thread closing, didn't see that coming. Here's your reward GBATemp...

[Programming]*****************************
[Verifying] *****************************

Done, ENJOY!

I've Exploited my way into your hearts to end this senseless fighting. Who cares if it's homebrew or a rom loader, Kernel or lower level, let's just agree that the damn thing is possible and be on our way?

At the end of the day shit is happening regardless if you like it or not. I leave you with this "exploit" that will infect your heart-drives so we can get this derailed thread back onto schedule.

P.S. if you get an "error 0000019" ill get back to you.

elunesgrace · Apr 2, 2014

Ryukouki said:
Nothing wrong with a bit of philosophy.

I like philosphy as much as the next guy, but do we really need to go that far for just some forum banter? Lol

Foxi4 said:
Because lambstone is mixing up things that are entailed with things that are merely implied and infers conclusions which may or may not be true on the basis of rather poor evidence. It's essentially like concluding that "the t-shirt Foxi4 is wearing right now is definitely blue" if I say that it's "a dark colour". It can be blue, sure. It can also be black or dark green. I didn't actually say what colour it is, anything beyond the point of "dark" is speculation.

But don't you find that's a bit of an overkill for the conversation? I mean if you are forced to go that far into conversation on a forum here, I think you've already passed the point where the other side will change their mind unfortunately =/.

Let's just leave Smealum alone and maybe go hijack the WiiU section of the forum or something =).

lambstone · Apr 2, 2014

Vengenceonu said:
Wow the fighting ended without the thread closing, didn't see that coming. Here's your reward GBATemp...

[Programming]*****************************
[Verifying] *****************************

Done, ENJOY!

I've Exploited my way into your hearts to end this senseless fighting. Who cares if it's homebrew or a rom loader, Kernel or lower level, let's just agree that the damn thing is possible and be on our way?

At the end of the day shit is happening regardless if you like it or not. I leave you with this "exploit" that will infect your heart-drives so we can get this derailed thread back onto schedule.

P.S. if you get an "error 0000019" ill get back to you.

Nah, there was no fighting. It was mostly miscommunication.

Would be good to have someone clarify ARM9 code execution because right now its just a FACT that SSSpwn will not have ARM9 code execution, the implications of this needs to be investigated further.

gamesquest1 · Apr 2, 2014

lambstone said:
Nah, there was no fighting. It was mostly miscommunication.

Would be good to have someone clarify ARM9 code execution because right now its just a FACT that SSSpwn will not have ARM9 code execution, the implications of this needs to be investigated further.

......but in terms of homebrew, we have kinda seen what arm9 is capable of

, thats not to disrespect those that did make some arm9 homebrew.....just that in term of homebrew with proper resources it needs to be run on arm11.....yeah it would be nice to have both, but having arm11 is still the better side of the equation if people want to make homebrew.....arm9 is just the cherry on top that gives you total...ish control

TheCruel · Apr 2, 2014

Snailface said:
The more consoles that are eligible to be hacked at the time of release, the bigger the hb community. Most people that will go for homebrew are continuously active 3ds users (hardcores) and are likely to be fully updated. Yes, people who updated may chose to buy and older firm system just for homebew, but few are that hardcore and/or rich.

If he's worried about people needlessly updating, then it can just as well be released with a "don't update your firmware while we research this" message. Most people wanting homebrew are not going to keep updating to latest firmwares unless they're idiots.

gamesquest1 · Apr 2, 2014

TheCruel said:
If he's worried about people needlessly updating, then it can just as well be released with a "don't update your firmware while we research this" message. Most people wanting homebrew are not going to keep updating to latest firmwares unless they're idiots.

i think the point is that he is still working on it, and he want's a pretty much "ready to go" experience, from which developers can get straight to work....not just a hello world, he has only just found this exploit i'm sure he wants to document what he can and can't do.....he has been working with kernel access up untill now, now he himself is constrained himself to usermode afterall

Snailface · Apr 2, 2014

TheCruel said:
If he's worried about people needlessly updating, then it can just as well be released with a "don't update your firmware while we research this" message. Most people wanting homebrew are not going to keep updating to latest firmwares unless they're idiots.

I think v7 users are more likely to stay put if they actually have the exploit installed on their system vs. waiting for devs to catch up to their firmware. Anyway, listening to smea's wording in his blog, it doesn't sound like the wait will be long so the advantages disadvantages of waiting are likely of small difference.

Celice · Apr 2, 2014

Snailface said:
I think v7 users are more likely to stay put if they actually have the exploit installed on their system vs. waiting for devs to catch up to their firmware. Anyway, listening to smea's wording in his blog, it doesn't sound like the wait will be long so the advantages disadvantages of waiting are likely of small difference.

Dude, I just want to mention, I'm glad for you and other calm members on this forum looking at stuff like this as straight as you guys do. It's a good contrast to the muck of random rumour and fearmongering going on by people who are interested in what this stuff does but have no real understanding of how it does what it does.

also more pokeymans hacks plz

spiral6 · Apr 2, 2014

I'm glad that he found an exploit. Smea always pulls through... ^^ Maybe we can get some homebrew...

daicon · Apr 2, 2014

TheCruel said:
I know, but still doesn't answer why it's not being released now. He's saying it will "burn the vuln" as if it won't be able to be used on 7.1 if it's released today.

I'm assuming he's scared Nintendo will patch it soon after release and so he's trying to support the latest firmware so everyone can use it immediately. But it's a false solution. No matter when it's released, subsequent firmwares will have it patched. So I don't understand what's gained by waiting.

From what I understand, the new exploit cannot emulate NAND, so that once the vuln is patched, you won't be able to update past it and still have homebrew even if you had it before. So from what I understand, Smea is waiting as long as he can for Nintendo to release as many firmware revisions as possible before they finally patch it.

Like hypothetically, when the new Smash Bros or whatever comes out on Firmware 9.x, if SSSpwn has been patched out, SSSpwn users will have to decide whether they want to play smash or have homebrew. Atleast that's my understanding.

lambstone · Apr 2, 2014

daicon said:
From what I understand, the new exploit cannot emulate NAND, so that once the vuln is patched, you won't be able to update past it and still have homebrew even if you had it before. So from what I understand, Smea is waiting as long as he can for Nintendo to release as many firmware revisions as possible before they finally patch it.

Like hypothetically, when the new Smash Bros or whatever comes out on Firmware 9.x, if SSSpwn has been patched out, SSSpwn users will have to decide whether they want to play smash or have homebrew. Atleast that's my understanding.

Allow me to share the more accurate understanding what what Smea means (to the best of my knowledge anyway).

Smea is waiting for release to make sure it works on 7.x. That way if he releases anything, it will not be patched out by a 7.x update.

Also, just had an idea.

Can anyone with homebrew knowledge comment on the feasibility of a file manager/explorer app built using ARM11 code?

Duo8 · Apr 2, 2014

lambstone said:
Allow me to share the more accurate understanding what what Smea means (to the best of my knowledge anyway).

Smea is waiting for release to make sure it works on 7.x. That way if he releases anything, it will not be patched out by a 7.x update.

Also, just had an idea.

Can anyone with homebrew knowledge comment on the feasibility of a file manager/explorer app built using ARM11 code?

I think it's possible to access SD card. Doubt you can read internal memory though.

daicon · Apr 2, 2014

Foxi4 said:
Yes, sadly I don't see the benefit of kernel access in an exploit for anything other than piracy.
*snip

I definitely see kernel benefits aside from piracy:
Custom Firmware / OS edits
Region Free
ROM Translations
ROM edits
Cheats
Custom 'channels'
VC rom injections
NAND emulation
Screenshots in-game

That and honestly, I think it's legitimate if someone wants a backup loader to avoid taking all their carts with them on a trip and risk losing one or all of them.

I'm not saying this to diss ssspwn, but to say that to discard 4.5 exploits and work for the reasons stated are sad.

lambstone · Apr 2, 2014

daicon said:
I definitely see kernel benefits aside from piracy:
Custom Firmware / OS edits
Region Free
ROM Translations
ROM edits
Cheats
Custom 'channels'
VC rom injections
NAND emulation
Screenshots in-game

That and honestly, I think it's legitimate if someone wants a backup loader to avoid taking all their carts with them on a trip and risk losing one or all of them.

I'm not saying this to diss ssspwn, but to say that to discard 4.5 exploits and work for the reasons stated are sad.

Yes. We need to clarify that all the above and kernel access require ARM9 code execution. Because at this point of time we are just certain that SSSpwn does not allow ARM9 code execution. All that's left would be to find out what arm9 code execution can do. If the above list requires arm9 we can then make an outright statement that SSSpwn is only good for arm11 homebrew apps and games and nothing else.

mr. fancypants · Apr 2, 2014

yaey happy that there is a new exploit (just a teeny tiny bit to late cuz i updated it to 7.1 thinking that a 6.x exploit wouldn't come...)

anyway does this also work on 5.xx?

Duo8 · Apr 2, 2014

mr. fancypants said:
yaey happy that there is a new exploit (just a teeny tiny bit to late cuz i updated it to 7.1 thinking that a 6.x exploit wouldn't come...)

anyway does this also work on 5.xx?

Should work with all vers atm.

fatsquirrel · Apr 2, 2014

You need to quote more videos and then you will see it. BANHAMMER

cypher007 · Apr 2, 2014

is the bloody tissue on the side in the video because Nintendo has already paid a visit?

fatsquirrel · Apr 2, 2014

cypher007 said:
is the bloody tissue on the side in the video because Nintendo has already paid a visit?

I rofled

Schizoanalysis · Apr 2, 2014

How the hell is lambstone not banned yet?

Hacking 3DS 6.3 Exploit Found

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