Hacking Would you ever trust Brickway again, or is their rep ruined for good?

xBleedingSoulx · Jan 21, 2014

All these Gateway threads are getting annoying, all the threads are doing is causing more arguments between the Gateway supporters and Gateway haters. Spinner09 obviously started this thread to fuel the arguments, that's all he seems to be doing lately.

CraddaPoosta · Jan 21, 2014

xBleedingSoulx said:
All these Gateway threads are getting annoying, all the threads are doing is causing more arguments between the Gateway supporters and Gateway haters. Spinner09 obviously started this thread to fuel the arguments, that's all he seems to be doing lately.

I have yet to see him post about anything else, ever.

the_randomizer · Jan 21, 2014

Oh goody! Just what we need, another Gateway thread! They're going down, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell they can recover from damage their lame-ass sabotaging stunt caused.

Armadillo · Jan 21, 2014

I hope they recover just to spite you.

You've been crying about Gateway ever since you updated past 4.5 and this is just another excuse for you to spam anti-gateway nonsense.

pyromaniac123 · Jan 21, 2014

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Deleted member 333767 · Jan 21, 2014

I used to be gateway teams biggest fan.... They could do no wrong in my eyes....

But then they deliberately destroyed peoples 3DS, now I can't wait for another competitor to come along so I can ditch their product!

Whosian · Jan 21, 2014

Instead of Brickway, I propose that we refer to the Gateway bricking scandal as GatewayGate.

spinner09 · Jan 21, 2014

Neo Draven said:
I have yet to see him post about anything else, ever.

But that's not true. I post about all sorts of stuff. It's only more recently I've been taking about Gateway since its been in the news a lot.

Whosian said:
Instead of Brickway, I propose that we refer to the Gateway bricking scandal as GatewayGate.

We could use both! For example: "Brickway caused the whole Gatewaygate fiasco."

Jiro2 · Jan 21, 2014

Foxi4 said:
A softmod for the 3DS is absolutely inevitable, the problem is that the flashcart game is a multi-million dollar business and by releasing something like that you single-handedly kill it. The Wii went through the same process before Homebrew Channel was developed - things like this take time. All it takes is a couple coders who just don't care and don't have any loyalties to the flashcart manufacturers.

The problem is that people with the skill to create such softmods tend to avoid releasing them "to prevent piracy". As I said in another post, this is like banning condoms in order to keep teenagers from having sex--it doesn't prevent sex, it just prevents safer sex, and this doesn't prevent piracy, it just prevents safer piracy, If nobody ever releases a safe softmod, that leaves an opening for companies like Gateway to release mods that can destroy your system instead.

As for the main question, I think there are levels of trust. I'd certainly trust Gateway more than I do now if they did some of the things outlined in the question, but probably not as much as I'd trust someone who never put in bricking code to begin with.

CraddaPoosta · Jan 21, 2014

I checked your posting history. You have yet to post about anything that is not related to Gateway 3DS "fanboys".

Literally. Even on topics that aren't even discussing bricks or Gateway or flash carts at all, you still can't prevent yourself from ranting about bricks and fanboys.

Don't take my word for it. Check your own posts. You have contributed nothing to the scene whatsoever, except for attacking people who like the product that they purchased.

I DO own a Gateway 3DS. I DO have something to worry about. Something tells me that you do not. If anything, the people who HAVE a bricked 3DS should be the ones leading the riot, not spectators and bystanders.

3bbb7 · Jan 21, 2014

they added a brick code. whether it was to kill competition or some other reason, they added a brick code. They had some intentions of using it, or they wouldn't have added it.

Even if it's removed completely, I would never trust them

Sonic4Ever · Jan 21, 2014

This shit is worse than DarkFader's bricker. They truly can't be trusted anymore.

mhss · Jan 21, 2014

Neo Draven said:
I checked your posting history. You have yet to post about anything that is not related to Gateway 3DS "fanboys".

Literally. Even on topics that aren't even discussing bricks or Gateway or flash carts at all, you still can't prevent yourself from ranting about bricks and fanboys.

Don't take my word for it. Check your own posts. You have contributed nothing to the scene whatsoever, except for attacking people who like the product that they purchased.

I DO own a Gateway 3DS. I DO have something to worry about. Something tells me that you do not. If anything, the people who HAVE a bricked 3DS should be the ones leading the riot, not spectators and bystanders.

Great way of thinking, people should realize that this forum is infested with R4 shills, who are constantly hating on Gateway, no matter the arguments you have. I also have Gateway and I want them to be succesful, to create ultimate flashcard for 3DS, evolving and improving experience. Because haters like spinner09 or the_randomizer, 3DS flashcard scene is dying. Without Gateway there will be nothing for a long time, and for sure no one will release free unlock of 3DS. You also can forget about R4 thieves, those imbecils are completly useless.

3bbb7 · Jan 21, 2014

osirisjem said:
Gateway is the only company to trust.
They are the only cart to buy.
The rest are just dangerous, cheap knockoffs.
It is r4i and 3DSLink that can't be trusted.
But that should have been obvious from the beginning.

Better yet, trust no one.

so from what I can see, your logic is that because it's the first company to appear with a working cart, it's trustworthy?
how does this work?

I see this argument being used a lot on this forum and its ridiculous how people believe just because gateway was first, they are a trustworthy company and have the best cart

Whosian · Jan 21, 2014

mhss said:
Great way of thinking, people should realize that this forum is infested with R4 shills, who are constantly hating on Gateway, no matter the arguments you have. I also have Gateway and I want them to be succesful, to create ultimate flashcard for 3DS, evolving and improving experience. Because haters like spinner09 or the_randomizer, 3DS flashcard scene is dying. Without Gateway there will be nothing for a long time, and for sure no one will release free unlock of 3DS. You also can forget about R4 thieves, those imbecils are completly useless.

I don't think the term "shill" is very useful in this discussion. And this is coming from someone who doesn't own any of the 3DS flashcards (or even a 3DS). It seems to me that your argument is better supported with logic and citations - maybe in the form of links - than ad hominems.

codychaosx · Jan 21, 2014

My understanding is that brick users have been using emunand n shit which i have not. ived only usefd my gateway for backups. emunand seemed really risky to me in the first place and yeah fuck the clone cards GW has been supporting their own shit from day one. blah im just putting my two cents in.

spinner09 · Jan 21, 2014

Neo Draven said:
I checked your posting history. You have yet to post about anything that is not related to Gateway 3DS "fanboys".

Im sorry you feel that way. Again, I've only been talking about it a lot recently because of the whole bricking scandal. I always try to contribute to the scene and help people out when I can. Perhaps I've been a little aggressive lately, but it's just I find this whole fiasco angering. What gives them the right to brick peoples consoles? It boggles my mind.

mhss said:
Great way of thinking, people should realize that this forum is infested with R4 shills, who are constantly hating on Gateway, no matter the arguments you have.

Again, the old shill argument. Also, aren't you doing the exact opposite? Gateway shill who's constantly defending GW no matter what? You're no better than I am!

I also have Gateway and I want them to be succesful, to create ultimate flashcard for 3DS, evolving and improving experience. Because haters like spinner09 or the_randomizer, 3DS flashcard scene is dying. Without Gateway there will be nothing for a long time.

I want a custom firmware to evolve, not shady cart manufacturers. It's shit like this bricking fiasco which makes me lose faith in Chinese teams in general. I'd rather be in control of my own hardwarw, so yay for people like smeleum. Also, are you forgetting about MT-cart? All original code, promising work, etc? The scene would still thrive without gateway, so they can go down in flames if they're being a bunch of pricks.

You also can forget about R4 thieves, those imbecils are completly useless.

Gateway is a flashcart company that profits off of stealing other peoples work. Thus, they are in fact thieves themselves. And they're imbeciles as well since they can't even program their brick code without effecting legitimate GW users. Do you not see the irony in this?

CraddaPoosta · Jan 21, 2014

spinner09 - Learn coding. Learn programming. Learn hardware. Learn NAND. Create your own hacks and mods. Then you can complain about how it's done. Save your outrage for when you, yourself, are personally made a victim.

As it stands, a couple of hours of research has yielded me only three reliably confirmed bricks. On ALL of GBATemp. I've read every comment on every topic posted here referring to the word "brick".

Three confirmed bricks. One half-confirmed (no screenshot).

Even if Gateway 3DS had only ever sold 1,000 flash carts worldwide, that's still an amazingly low number, if it truly was unintentional.

mhss · Jan 21, 2014

spinner09 said:
Im sorry you feel that way. Again, I've only been talking about it a lot recently because of the whole bricking scandal. I always try to contribute to the scene and help people out when I can. Perhaps I've been a little aggressive lately, but it's just I find this whole fiasco angering. What gives them the right to brick peoples consoles? It boggles my mind.

Again, the old shill argument. Also, aren't you doing the exact opposite? Gateway shill who's constantly defending GW no matter what? You're no better than I am!

I want a custom firmware to evolve, not shady cart manufacturers. It's shit like this bricking fiasco which makes me lose faith in Chinese teams in general. I'd rather be in control of my own hardwarw, so yay for people like smeleum. Also, are you forgetting about MT-cart? All original code, promising work, etc? The scene would still thrive without gateway, so they can go down in flames if they're being a bunch of pricks.

Gateway is a flashcart company that profits off of stealing other peoples work. Thus, they are in fact thieves themselves. And they're imbeciles as well since they can't even program their brick code without effecting legitimate GW users. Do you not see the irony in this?

There will be no custom firmware for users, there will be no free way of playing backup roms on 3DS. Gateway is NOT chinese, they are from Europe, from France. MT-card is not original, their firmware is based on Gateway 1.2, it's still a clone.

spinner09 · Jan 21, 2014

Neo Draven said:
As it stands, a couple of hours of research has yielded me only three reliably confirmed bricks. On ALL of GBATemp. I've read every comment on every topic posted here referring to the word "brick".

Three confirmed bricks. One half-confirmed (no screenshot).

Even if Gateway 3DS had only ever sold 1,000 flash carts worldwide, that's still an amazingly low number, if it truly was unintentional.

The number of bricks isn't important. What's important is Gateway programmed in malicious code, and they're being pricks about it. Scene vets have already confirmed it (neimod, etc)

Also, what about the hundreds of clone bricked consoles? Dont they count also?

Hacking Would you ever trust Brickway again, or is their rep ruined for good?

Would you trust Gateway again?

Yes, but only if they fix every single bricked console (even clone users)

Yes, after they apologize and remove the brick code for good

Yes, I'd trust them no matter what they do

No, not after this mess they've caused

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