Nintendo Swapnote shutdown world-wide

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Meh. I only ever used it to receive messages from Nintendo, and I can do that elsewhere. Miiverse, here we come.
 

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Aww... I'd just gotten enough people on my Friends List to actually start using that service properly. (I was mainly sending out a few terrible drawings of Pokemon for fun)
 

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Considering we are getting Miiverse, I think they was going to shut it down anyway and this just gave them a excuse.

Shame tho, had some good notes time to time.
 

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Being that the 3DS is mainly used by kids its good to hear there doing this. At least I know there trying to keep it safe and clean for the kids....but at the same time most kids these days have a smartphone and can look at anything so meh whatever lol
 

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You were hoping we would support a draconian shutdown of a used service based on a "Won't somebody please think of the children" argument? I don't even know where to begin...

You must not have any kids. Or if you do, you're probably indifferent to what your kids do. Nintendo is trying to protect the minors from viewing lewd content; how is that inappropriate? If the parents did this, then it would be acceptable, but once a big corporation does it, then people clamor that they're trying to control them. It's kind of like the story of the kid who got shot: he was carrying around a toy machine gun. His father told him not to take it outside, but he didn't listen. So, a police officer saw it and told him to drop it; the kid didn't listen again and now the kid is dead. Are you going to blame the kids' death on the toy gun industry?
 
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You must not have any kids. Or if you do, you're probably indifferent to what your kids do. Nintendo is trying to protect the minors from viewing lewd content; how is that inappropriate? If the parents did this, then it would be acceptable, but once a big corporation does it, then people clamor that they're trying to control them. It's kind of like the story of the kid who got shot: he was carrying around a toy machine gun. His father told him not to take it outside, but he didn't listen. So, a police officer saw it and told him to drop it; the kid didn't listen again and now the kid is dead. Are you going to blame the kids' death on the toy gun industry?
It's not inappropriate, just silly. If this were truly the case they would need to remove the web browser next cause there be boobs on the internet. I'm not saying it's OK to send inappropriate things to kids, but it's not like it was SPAM or random people. Even if a kid went online and added a friend code randomly, the other person would have to add them back in order to send/receive swapnotes. Hell, even the Streetpass function of Swapnote only sends notes to your registered friends. Taking down the entire spotpass portion was a knee-jerk reaction; next miiverse and flipnote will be delayed or not released for the same reasons. It's awesome that you're in touch with your kids and know what they're doing, and it sucks that other people aren't. On the same token, I learned to swear in elementary school, drew dicks and boobs on scratch paper to the delight of myself and others, and saw my first used condom in the 3rd grade in a huddle of kids. That's the fun of growing up, and so long as it doesn't get out of hand it's just that - fun. Kids sending dick drawings to each other, or sexting each other, is going to happen via email, on a cell phone, facebook, whatever. I don't expect large corporations to be a babysitter, but I also don't consider them to be at fault for how I or someone else uses their device. This just seems like a really bad decision at a really bad time (2 weeks out from PS4/Xbox) to me.

As for your analogy, I'm not sure if it's a true story or not. Were I the father, I would have told the kid not to take it outside because Police Officers shoot first, aim to kill, and ask questions later. If that wasn't made clear then it's the dad's fault ;p
 

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You must not have any kids. Or if you do, you're probably indifferent to what your kids do. Nintendo is trying to protect the minors from viewing lewd content; how is that inappropriate? If the parents did this, then it would be acceptable, but once a big corporation does it, then people clamor that they're trying to control them. It's kind of like the story of the kid who got shot: he was carrying around a toy machine gun. His father told him not to take it outside, but he didn't listen. So, a police officer saw it and told him to drop it; the kid didn't listen again and now the kid is dead. Are you going to blame the kids' death on the toy gun industry?

I do have a daughter, although she is too young for me to have to worry about anything for the next few years (she's 5 months old). My issue is that it isn't Nintendo's job! I am an IT and network adminitstrator, and if there is one thing I have hated it is heavy handed overreactions to the problems caused by a few individuals. In fact, I am at work dealing with one at this very moment. Someone uses facebook a little too much and now my usually lax workplace is deciding to start restricting all users internet usage. Many of us use it responsibly all day, but one user doesn't and it is ruined for all of us.

When my daughter gets old enough to use the internet, I am not sure yet what exactly I will do. But I know I won't just shut it off just in case she sees something she shouldn't.

While I am familiar with this story, I am not seeing how it relates to what I am saying. In fact, it seems I would think the opposite of what you were saying.
 
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'Hmm, yeah' what? That story does more to prove my point (officer can't remember if he identified himself as a police officer, shot 8 times, and hit the kid 7 times) than it does to validate yours.

I don't want this thread de-railed or going off-topic, so that's all I have to say on the matter.

I do have a daughter, although she is too young for me to have to worry about anything for the next few years (she's 5 months old). My issue is that it isn't Nintendo's job! I am an IT and network adminitstrator, and if there is one thing I have hated it is heavy handed overreactions to the problems caused by a few individuals. In fact, I am at work dealing with one at this very moment. Someone uses facebook a little too much and now my usually lax workplace is deciding to start restricting all users internet usage. Many of us use it responsibly all day, but one user doesn't and it is ruined for all of us.

When my daughter gets old enough to use the internet, I am not sure yet what exactly I will do. But I know I won't just shut it off just in case she sees something she shouldn't.

While I am familiar with this story, I am not seeing how it relates to what I am saying. In fact, it seems I would think the opposite of what you were saying.

Way to speak the truth. I feel the same as you about my children seeing the web when I have them and they are old enough. Simply shutting it off is not the answer, and expecting corporations to hand-hold my kids is just as ridiculous. Hell, we all know when you tell a kid 'you can't have that' or 'you can't do that' it only fuels their desire.
 

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"Minutes ago, Nintendo shutdown the deliver of Swapnote messages due to the number of underage users and the amount of inappropriate material being shared."​
Nintendo hasn't seen COD have they.​
 
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I do have a daughter, although she is too young for me to have to worry about anything for the next few years (she's 5 months old). My issue is that it isn't Nintendo's job! I am an IT and network adminitstrator, and if there is one thing I have hated it is heavy handed overreactions to the problems caused by a few individuals. In fact, I am at work dealing with one at this very moment. Someone uses facebook a little too much and now my usually lax workplace is deciding to start restricting all users internet usage. Many of us use it responsibly all day, but one user doesn't and it is ruined for all of us.

When my daughter gets old enough to use the internet, I am not sure yet what exactly I will do. But I know I won't just shut it off just in case she sees something she shouldn't.

While I am familiar with this story, I am not seeing how it relates to what I am saying. In fact, it seems I would think the opposite of what you were saying.

Well it isn't Nintendo's job, like you said; it's the parents' job. And if the son had listened to the father, he wouldn't be dead right now. I hope when your little girl gets old enough that you'll protect her from this as best as you can. And hopefully a situation similar to the shooting might not happen with her because she listens to you: you can be strict with her while doing it in a loving fashion. But I do hope that you will shut off the internet (temporarily) if she does see something she shouldn't.

If the world needs anything strict, it needs strict parents. Unfortunately, current definitions of strict parents mean "abusive, dictatorial, etc." So, we use the media and other public information sources to raise our children so they'll fit in. It's especially reinforced in public schools too; if you're not like them, you get made fun of. And you've got twelve years of this. If you can manage to still be unique after 12 years of this, then you deserve a medal: it's hard going against the crowd, but it's part of growing up. Being an adult means you don't let others make your life decisions. As to how those life decisions will be reflect on all the public and parental information the child has acquired over those years.
 
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Way to speak the truth. I feel the same as you about my children seeing the web when I have them and they are old enough. Simply shutting it off is not the answer, and expecting corporations to hand-hold my kids is just as ridiculous. Hell, we all know when you tell a kid 'you can't have that' or 'you can't do that' it only fuels their desire.

My parents told me I can't watch porn or smoke or other bad things; but this hasn't fueled my desire to do those things. Why? Because I love them and don't want to hurt them. It's almost like you're saying, "I can't protect my children from lewd content, so I'm not even going to try." If you don't want corporations or the government to protect your children from this and you're not going to protect your children from this stuff, then who will?
 
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Well it isn't Nintendo's job, like you said; it's the parents' job. And if the son had listened to the father, he wouldn't be dead right now. I hope when your little girl gets old enough that you'll protect her from this as best as you can. And hopefully a situation similar to the shooting might not happen with her because she listens to you: you can be strict with her while doing it in a loving fashion. But I do hope that you will shut off the internet (temporarily) if she does see something she shouldn't.

If the world needs anything strict, it needs strict parents. Unfortunately, current definitions of strict parents mean "abusive, dictatorial, etc." So, we use the media and other public information sources to raise our children so they'll fit in. It's especially reinforced in public schools too; if you're not like them, you get made fun of. And you've got twelve years of this. If you can manage to still be unique after 12 years of this, then you deserve a medal: it's hard going against the crowd, but it's part of growing up. Being an adult means you don't let others make your life decisions. As to how those life decisions will be reflect on all the public and parental information the child has acquired over those years.
I really think comparing dick pix in swapnote to police shooting a kid is a major stretch. I also think blanket censorship is immoral and wrong. Seeing as you brought 'public school' in to the mix, I knew plenty of friends in private schools who experienced the same things because that's the society we live in. That said, I'm assuming you must be religious and therefore we must agree to disagree.

My parents told me I can't watch porn or smoke or other bad things; but this hasn't fueled my desire to do those things. Why? Because I love them and don't want to hurt them. It's almost like you're saying, "I can't protect my children from lewd content, so I'm not even going to try." If you don't want corporations or the government to protect your children from this and you're not going to protect your children from this stuff, then who will?
I think you misunderstood; I simply meant to remind everyone what it felt like to be a kid and to be told not to see or do something. I love and honor my parents too but I knew when they were being over-bearing. It's not a matter of 'protecting' children but educating them what is and isn't appropriate for their age. Education and open-minded discussion are always a better choice than blanket censorship.
 
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I really think comparing dick pix in swapnote to police shooting a kid is a major stretch. I also think blanket censorship is immoral and wrong. Seeing as you brought 'public school' in to the mix, I knew plenty of friends in private schools who experienced the same things because that's the society we live in. That said, I'm assuming you must be religious and therefore we must agree to disagree.

Hmmm, yeah; let's become like Communist Russia was. School is school; these things happen. But don't let that stop you from telling your kids this is wrong. Even if they don't listen to you, at least you warned them. And I'm not going to bite your religion bait; not going to derail this thread like that.
 
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Why wouldn't they just ban users or consoles that were guilty of this?

Shutting down the entire service is a bit of an over reaction don't you think.

Oh well, not a big deal to me anyway.
 
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