Gateway Release New Video - First Units To Ship This Week

Roman.Sol · Jul 17, 2013

" They're working on it to make it work on the later firmwares"

They even had to hide it wasn't compatible with the 5.0 firmware. It's dead for anything higher than 4.5.

Gateway is a "huge step" because it's the first, as simple as that. They were killed months before release and won't work with any future games. Keeping on with piracy will be a complete geek affair on 3DS. Even more than on PS3.

As I said, multiples 3DS will be needed.... or multiple piracy devices.

Ryukouki · Jul 17, 2013

Roman.Sol said:
" They're working on it to make it work on the later firmwares"

They even had to hide it wasn't compatible with the 5.0 firmware. It's dead for anything higher than 4.5.

Gateway is a "huge step" because it's the first, as simple as that. They were killed months before release and won't work with any future games. Keeping on with piracy will be a complete geek affair on 3DS. Even more than on PS3.

As I said, multiples 3DS will be needed.... or multiple piracy devices.

There's a quote button for a reason, may come in handy. Welcome to GBAtemp by the way.

Whoever said anything about multiple 3DS devices? Where are you even getting that from? The only ones who might need multiple devices is if they've updated for the meager features post 4.5. For the patient ones who don't update, they can run the device when it comes out, and hopefully reap in the benefits if an update rolls around.

Roman.Sol · Jul 17, 2013

Whoever said anything about multiple 3DS devices? Where are you even getting that from? The only ones who might need multiple devices is if they've updated for the meager features post 4.5. For the patient ones who don't update, they can run the device when it comes out, and hopefully reap in the benefits if an update rolls around.

Gateway won't work for games like Pokemon, MH4, Zelda, that's why people will need to make the choice I described earlier.

mkdms14 · Jul 17, 2013

So we are still arguing over the Gateway 3ds flashcard? Can't wait for reviews of the card so all this nonsense can be put to rest.

Ryukouki · Jul 17, 2013

Roman.Sol said:
Gateway won't work for games like Pokemon, MH4, Zelda, that's why people will need to make the choice I described earlier.

But the thing is, you don't know that.

Thirty3Three · Jul 17, 2013

mkdms14 said:
So we are still arguing over the Gateway 3ds flashcard? Can't wait for reviews of the card so all this nonsense can be put to rest.

Yup! Unlike the other dude, who's trolling, I enjoy waiting to see what the future holds, rather than heading into the future and seeing beforehand. I enjoy surprises.

Roman.Sol · Jul 17, 2013

Ryukouki said:
But the thing is, you don't know that.

I know that because the exploit used was removed and the future games will need 6.0 or higher firmwares to run. It's really as simple as that. No need to have be Einstein to understand that basic logic.

FAST6191 · Jul 17, 2013

Roman.Sol you are spouting almost unmitigated nonsense.

"On DS, people could go to mainstream store, buys R4 preloaded with 50 games and make it work easily."
So you are comparing a well developed end stage hack to an initial foray. Makes sense. For the record the DS slot cards rose up 2 years into the DS as well ( http://gbatemp.net/threads/5-years-of-ds-roms-in-5-days-year-2.236648/ or if you prefer http://gbatemp.net/threads/new-microninja-details.40013/ ) and they took a while to settle down too.

"80$ device in chinese online store (thanks for the credit card number they say)"
The credit card numbers problem was largely solved years ago (there are very big companies that work very hard to maintain a good image to say nothing of prepaid cards) and there are a great many securities in place on top of that.
As for 80 USD despite all the whining around here that is not actually bad for a hacking/security bypass device both in terms of consoles and in general.

Exploits fixed by newer firmwares.
You mean hack, counter, hack, counter is a new model in the hacking world? But it felt so familiar.

Ryukouki · Jul 17, 2013

Roman.Sol said:
I know that because the exploit used was removed and the future games will need 6.0 or higher firmwares to run. It's really as simple as that. No need to have be Einstein to understand that basic logic.

Either way, what a lot of people are looking forward to is playing with the library that already exists. If the device gets updated later for higher support, which is the general hope, then it's a win win for those who want to pirate. Personally, I'm more fascinated by this cart because of what it could open up for future, and how they might have gotten the games running in the first place, in the form of a manufacturable device.

Devin · Jul 17, 2013

Ryukouki said:
But the thing is, you don't know that.

Sad thing is he's correct on that part, but everything else is just speculation. We don't know if the GW3DS will be supported, or can be supported on newer firmwares. While at the same time we can't not say it won't, because we just don't know.

That new Mario and Luigi Dream Team game has the 5.1 update on it. Right now all I know is that they're working on getting it to work on newer firmwares. People are interested enough, but it's mainly people who don't own 3DS' because they were waiting for a 3DS rom flashcart. So they'll run out, and buy a 3DS. Since new 3DS' (Besides the Pikachu one.) are on 4.5 or earlier, they'll still be a good chunk of sale. The main thing I'm pondering it how they fixed saving, I read from Foxi they're using the camera for SD access. If they can manipulate SD card access I'd like to see how far the rabbit hole goes so to speak. What else can it do?

Ryukouki · Jul 17, 2013

Devin said:
Sad thing is he's correct on that part, but everything else is just speculation. We don't know if the GW3DS will be supported, or can be supported on newer firmwares. While at the same time we can't not say it won't, because we just don't know.

That new Mario and Luigi Dream Team game has the 5.1 update on it. Right now all I know is that they're working on getting it to work on newer firmwares. People are interested enough, but it's mainly people who don't own 3DS' because they were waiting for a 3DS rom flashcart. So they'll run out, and buy a 3DS. Since new 3DS' (Besides the Pikachu one.) are on 4.5 or earlier, they'll still be a good chunk of sale. The main thing I'm pondering it how they fixed saving, I read from Foxi they're using the camera for SD access. If they can manipulate SD card access I'd like to see how far the rabbit hole goes so to speak. What else can it do?

Ah, I see. Either way, I'm not too worried about that, because this thing was never about the games, it was more for testing purposes. And lol, I didn't even know there was a new Mario and Luigi game coming out. And yeah, that video where they were like, we fixed the exploit really fascinated me as well, I want to see how this plays out too. Curious to see what they have that others don't...

Pedeadstrian · Jul 17, 2013

Rydian said:
We've seen videos, retailers, and GBATemp is getting sent one for a review.

The people who say this is fake are delusional (but those are usually people that we know to be detached from reality in the first place anyways).

I'm only cautious because we know nothing about it. But it may end up crashing every 5 minutes, have huge compatibility issues, erase backed up saves, etc. When Costello mentioned him knowing someone testing the Gateway, that was a long time ago. But they didn't even start production until just recently (or they have yet to do so, can't remember). So that aforementioned Gateway may be a prototype that works better than the current models.

Then again, I suffer from paranoia, so take all of my ramblings with a grain of salt (or handful).

idleft · Jul 18, 2013

Pedeadstrian said:
I'm only cautious because we know nothing about it. But it may end up crashing every 5 minutes, have huge compatibility issues, erase backed up saves, etc. When Costello mentioned him knowing someone testing the Gateway, that was a long time ago. But they didn't even start production until just recently (or they have yet to do so, can't remember). So that aforementioned Gateway may be a prototype that works better than the current models.

Then again, I suffer from paranoia, so take all of my ramblings with a grain of salt (or handful).

LoL. Don't be that cynical. Although the card doesn't come out yet, I'm quite optimistic with it. The reason why it takes so long for them from testing to production might be that they need to assure this can be made into a product. I think its not the hardest part to make rom work, but to turn it into a profitable product. Since the production needs a whole system, including manufacturing, selling, etc, to support, I think no one want this be a one time deal. Thus, I am quite optimistic about the updated firmware. Since you want your product to get a continuous selling, you cannot expect the card only compatible with only certain types of firmware. Also, this is not the same as PSP situation. Since the flashcard is a product which need to be sold, they have to make enough profit, at least to cover the manufacturing cost.

Pedeadstrian · Jul 18, 2013

idleft said:
LoL. Don't be that cynical. Although the card doesn't come out yet, I'm quite optimistic with it. The reason why it takes so long for them from testing to production might be that they need to assure this can be made into a product. I think its not the hardest part to make rom work, but to turn it into a profitable product. Since the production needs a whole system, including manufacturing, selling, etc, to support, I think no one want this be a one time deal. Thus, I am quite optimistic about the updated firmware. Since you want your product to get a continuous selling, you cannot expect the card only compatible with only certain types of firmware. Also, this is not the same as PSP situation. Since the flashcard is a product which need to be sold, they have to make enough profit, at least to cover the manufacturing cost.

Sure, they want to sell as much as they can, but that doesn't mean that the only thing keeping them from getting Gateway to work on current firmwares is motivation. If all 3DS hackers needed was a little bit of gumption to get working hacks out, then this thing would have been hacked a long time ago. They need entirely new exploits, and who knows if/when they'll get them.

idleft · Jul 18, 2013

Pedeadstrian said:
Sure, they want to sell as much as they can, but that doesn't mean that the only thing keeping them from getting Gateway to work on current firmwares is motivation. If all 3DS hackers needed was a little bit of gumption to get working hacks out, then this thing would have been hacked a long time ago. They need entirely new exploits, and who knows if/when they'll get them.

Yes, you are right. The crack do need them to find new exploits and maybe some new methods. But what I am trying to discuss it not how hard it's to hack 3ds or what they need to do. I mean, in current situation, since they need to assure their product having a good market, their product should already have those properties. That's the reason why they took so long to turn it into product and test for so long. That's what I'm guessing.

blinkzane · Jul 18, 2013

the fact that yall are arguing about something that isn't even out yet is like telling a pregnant woman when she's gonna have her baby and how he's gonna act. seriously, just stop, wait for the shit to release, and mediate from there.

=]

Pedeadstrian · Jul 18, 2013

blinkzane said:
the fact that yall are arguing about something that isn't even out yet is like telling a pregnant woman when she's gonna have her baby and how he's gonna act. seriously, just stop, wait for the shit to release, and mediate from there.

=]

Telling people not to argue on the internet is like telling a pregnant woman in labor to give a natural birth; it's not gonna happen.

idleft · Jul 18, 2013

Pedeadstrian said:
Telling people not to argue on the internet is like telling a pregnant woman in labor to give a natural birth; it's not gonna happen.

That's how people killing their time~

kohkindachi · Jul 18, 2013

Hey guys just to check..will this works with V4.4?

Thirty3Three · Jul 18, 2013

kohkindachi said:
Hey guys just to check..will this works with V4.4?

Yessir, that's correct!

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