Hacking The worst has happened...
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even so - a single drop should NOT make that type of damage.
It is crazy-talk to think that no kid will ever drop their DSlite.
My point being, that if Nintendo made devices that break so easily to being dropped from average 'kid height' - that business wouldnt be around for too much longer
It is crazy-talk to think that no kid will ever drop their DSlite.
My point being, that if Nintendo made devices that break so easily to being dropped from average 'kid height' - that business wouldnt be around for too much longer
wait, did you get the hairline crack or the major crack near the powerlight?
In the 2nd picture looks like the R button is getting squished by the plastic panel ontop of it. It doesn't look like stress from opening cuased it but rather someone smashed it from the top right corner of the ds while it was closed. Then again,it could look like that because you opened it a couple times when it was already broken. Hope this doesn't become a huge issue with cracked hinges.
EDIT: Looking at my DS Lite, I don't think that can be broken from the cracked hinge on the opposite side, since there is no locking mechanism there, there really isn't anything on the other side. What I think could have caused that is from the lock on the right side, and from it being on the right side only it puts an enormous amount of stress on the plastic its situated on. If you look at any DS Lite, I'm sure you will see the plastic that's cracked on yours, kind of bend as you open it, and also as you try to lock it to the 2nd lock position. Also you can see it bend the opposite way when you close the DS Lite. That's my theory, has nothing to do with the cracked hinge on the left, rather it deals with the locking mechanism used, and the stress it causes. I think this type of thing could happen to any DS Lite. Maybe the quality of the plastic used in your DS Lite was not as dense. Could have been one of those DS Lites that slipped by quality management. Statistically there will be a defective DS Lite in ever batch of DS Lites made, you could have lucked out and gotten that one. I hope this gets sorted out, no one wants anything they bought to fall apart. T_T
EDIT: Looking at my DS Lite, I don't think that can be broken from the cracked hinge on the opposite side, since there is no locking mechanism there, there really isn't anything on the other side. What I think could have caused that is from the lock on the right side, and from it being on the right side only it puts an enormous amount of stress on the plastic its situated on. If you look at any DS Lite, I'm sure you will see the plastic that's cracked on yours, kind of bend as you open it, and also as you try to lock it to the 2nd lock position. Also you can see it bend the opposite way when you close the DS Lite. That's my theory, has nothing to do with the cracked hinge on the left, rather it deals with the locking mechanism used, and the stress it causes. I think this type of thing could happen to any DS Lite. Maybe the quality of the plastic used in your DS Lite was not as dense. Could have been one of those DS Lites that slipped by quality management. Statistically there will be a defective DS Lite in ever batch of DS Lites made, you could have lucked out and gotten that one. I hope this gets sorted out, no one wants anything they bought to fall apart. T_T
yea i think the right side cracked due to the hinges being too tight. When i open my DS i always thought it was alittle stiff compared to my friends.
o well i just shipped off my item to nintendo today. Ill prolly hear from them in the next couple days so ill keep you guys updated.
o well i just shipped off my item to nintendo today. Ill prolly hear from them in the next couple days so ill keep you guys updated.
I just busted open my DS to take a nice peek inside the DS Lite, luckily no cracks.....yet. But anyways, the housing for the LED is seperaten and there's two screws that keep it down from the inside. I think these screws are taking away from the structural integrity of the DS Lite's main body(the plastic the mobo is secured on), but increase the strength of the hinge staying put. But if you use one less screw the LED housing where the hinge is would probably would have popped off by now, but the main body probably wouldn't be as damaged as yours is right now. Either way, its bad design that's the cause of this, not really the left crack. I think thats isolated, that crack on the left I think is far enough to have minimal impact on what is being done on the right. The hinge imo is the lock is the culprit in this, perhaps also the cause for the crack on the left. I notice now that I have a crack, there is a ton of stress on the left hing where the crack is because the lock is so friggin tight. This stress must also occur on an opposite end, and the most extreme opposite would be where yours is busting up right now. So from what I can deduce, this is all from a tight lock, maybe not properly installed correctly due to production strains to pump out more DS Lites. Statiscally the more you produce the more defects you'll have, thats probably why we see so many faults right now. Big N is just trying to keep up with demand I guess, while we complain and complain. But I think it's better to have a shortage and have people complain about that than having people complain about a defective product. Not meaning all DSes are defective, but its bound to have some defects out there, and us with the cracks and what not just got the bad end of things.
yup i have a feeling its due to the 2 screws on the right bolting on from the center piece to the power light. I noticed that when mine cracked open the 2 screws were really tight together, might be so tight that it already cracked that area and with normal wear it just expanded that crack into a compound fracture. My DS broke to a point when i opened my lip that the power light will follow with it and i can clearly see the 2 screws, also as designed i think those 2 screws are bolted too close to each other leaving very little gap between. That is just my conclusion. I looked at my friends DS today and i notice that he is starting to get the hairline crack on the right near the power light. In time i think his will crack also just like mine.
omg.. thanks for this post.... I just checked my lite.. and on the opposite side there are the small stress cracks that seem to have started your mishap... its the plastic right between the hinge and the r button...
Whats doing it is that initial pop when you open the ds, and the top screen pops in place... and even worse if you hyper extend it.
one more thing... should I remove the flashed firmware before I Send it back?? And how do I do that.. I heard noflashme is a little unstable. or is it ok?
Whats doing it is that initial pop when you open the ds, and the top screen pops in place... and even worse if you hyper extend it.
one more thing... should I remove the flashed firmware before I Send it back?? And how do I do that.. I heard noflashme is a little unstable. or is it ok?
I'm thinking Big N should have just used one big screw instead of two. I think I'll loosen those just a tiny bit to take off some strain, but if I'm wrong could make the entire thing worse. No cracks there yet for me, but it is a scary and unerving thought this can happen to any DS Lite imo. Instead of sending it to Nintendo, and paying 50$ (voided my warranty already xD) I'll hold out till DS Lite replacement shells come out, and maybe change my bland white to a two toned black and white. Maybe if I can just remove the top screen without any damage to those blasted rubber pads hiding the screws I can loosen the lock hing up somehow... Hmmm... I think I'll go try.
EDIT:
I just succesfully taken apart my DS Lite with minimal damage (I hope). The left hinge crack doesn't seem to be caused by stress by the user or anything of the sort. Within the left hinge is a short metal tube, that seems to be able to expand. I think due to natural nature of this, the tube is slightly expanding, maybe caused by temperatures and such. Might be interesting to see a geographic display of where most of the cracks are occuring in North America (a hunch is closer to the equator). We might not be hearing cracks happening frequently in Japan and Europe because they're further north than NA is, just a theory relating to weather. As for the right hinge, the friggin locking mechanism is so tight, when I isolated it, took a lot to just change it to one position, I'm trying to figure out a way to loosen this right now, and its midnight... must sleep soon.
EDIT:
I took that metal tube out of the left hinge, and I am almost 100% certain this causes the crack now. Once I took it out, the crack went back to looking like a hairline crack compared to what it was at first. This to me tells me that this metal tube is the cause of the crack in the left hinge. The tube isn't whole, it has a gap straight through it vertically (when oriented with both holes top and bottom). right now I just "squeezed" it and closed the gap and overlapped the tubing a little (had to straighten it out so it was round again). Once I did this I fitted it back into there it belongs, and it went in a lot looser than it was before. Now I put my DS Lite back together, and the left hinge is lose, but the crack isn't as large as it was before (before I did this the crack was about 0.5 mm wide [like seen on pictures posted where the crack was apparent] now the crack has a hairline appearance). As for the right hinge, I was unable to modify the tightness of the locking mechnism. The spring Nintendo used inside the locking mechnism looks like a very thick gauge, it's very hard to "unlock" it when it is isolated. Anyways it is 1:20 AM here, I am off to bed. I hope this information proves useful to some. Also someone had made an observation that the hinges were too tight, they're pretty much correct, that tubing made the hinge tight, not only that it was most likely expanding just due to how it was situated with a gap.
EDIT:
I just succesfully taken apart my DS Lite with minimal damage (I hope). The left hinge crack doesn't seem to be caused by stress by the user or anything of the sort. Within the left hinge is a short metal tube, that seems to be able to expand. I think due to natural nature of this, the tube is slightly expanding, maybe caused by temperatures and such. Might be interesting to see a geographic display of where most of the cracks are occuring in North America (a hunch is closer to the equator). We might not be hearing cracks happening frequently in Japan and Europe because they're further north than NA is, just a theory relating to weather. As for the right hinge, the friggin locking mechanism is so tight, when I isolated it, took a lot to just change it to one position, I'm trying to figure out a way to loosen this right now, and its midnight... must sleep soon.
EDIT:
I took that metal tube out of the left hinge, and I am almost 100% certain this causes the crack now. Once I took it out, the crack went back to looking like a hairline crack compared to what it was at first. This to me tells me that this metal tube is the cause of the crack in the left hinge. The tube isn't whole, it has a gap straight through it vertically (when oriented with both holes top and bottom). right now I just "squeezed" it and closed the gap and overlapped the tubing a little (had to straighten it out so it was round again). Once I did this I fitted it back into there it belongs, and it went in a lot looser than it was before. Now I put my DS Lite back together, and the left hinge is lose, but the crack isn't as large as it was before (before I did this the crack was about 0.5 mm wide [like seen on pictures posted where the crack was apparent] now the crack has a hairline appearance). As for the right hinge, I was unable to modify the tightness of the locking mechnism. The spring Nintendo used inside the locking mechnism looks like a very thick gauge, it's very hard to "unlock" it when it is isolated. Anyways it is 1:20 AM here, I am off to bed. I hope this information proves useful to some. Also someone had made an observation that the hinges were too tight, they're pretty much correct, that tubing made the hinge tight, not only that it was most likely expanding just due to how it was situated with a gap.
About the warranty. if you modify the firmware in any way, it is void correct? That means flashme voids the warranty, and noflashme doesnt work with the lites firmware. So I am going to have to just live with my ds cracking up and falling apart? Can anyone see another option?
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The real question is.... Did you throw away the pink sticker after flashing?
If not. Just stealth flash it (putting the pink sticker back on as well.). And send it back.
Or you could noflashme (stability is questionable on a DS lite, but on my old DS Phat it worked).
But how does that explain why just about every NDS Lite with a crack is a white US one?
I can't exactly answer that with much confidence cause it can be a number of things. As I said geographically USA is closer to the equator than Japan or more of Europe, climate changes can cause different materials to expand and contract. It's a long shot, but I think the US is warmer than Japan (surround by the ocean) or Europe (large bodies of water are close to countries in the south). Warmth, causes materials to expand, some more than others. Also warmth can make other materials more brittle, such as plastic. Maybe the DS Lites here have "drier plastic" than the rest of the world, also with the hinge it could expand cause of warmer climates, its a long shot, but it is possible for this to happen. Perhaps, maybe a shipment from a Chinese based assembler perhaps didn't put the parts together the right way, and the people who got the shipment from this factory is getting the cracks. Also I have read a few people with imported DS Lites have had cracks, not just white but the Enamel Navy and Ice Blue, its rare to read, but its also rare to run across someone with one of those DS Lites too. Might think I'm crazy, but I think the weather one is the culprit, I'm not hearing any complaints from other countries but the nice and warmer USA. I'm probably wrong, but instead of a tight big cracked hinge, I have a very slightly looser hinge with a small crack on it. It's just a theory, no fact on why it is happening here in the US.
As for the right hinge, I can't think of why that is happening but brittle plastic. Plastic I beleive is intially in liquid form, and poured into molds to create these casings. Maybe the plastic that was used in the DSes that are recieving the cracks has too much "air" in it rendering it unstable for common use. Just another theory.
As for the right hinge, I can't think of why that is happening but brittle plastic. Plastic I beleive is intially in liquid form, and poured into molds to create these casings. Maybe the plastic that was used in the DSes that are recieving the cracks has too much "air" in it rendering it unstable for common use. Just another theory.
i still think it has to do with the 2 screws under the power light, they are too close together and too tight
omg.. thanks for this post.... I just checked my lite.. and on the opposite side there are the small stress cracks that seem to have started your mishap... its the plastic right between the hinge and the r button...
Whats doing it is that initial pop when you open the ds, and the top screen pops in place... and even worse if you hyper extend it.
one more thing... should I remove the flashed firmware before I Send it back?? And how do I do that.. I heard noflashme is a little unstable. or is it ok?
Yeah the two screws are a big thing too, but if it were solely because of the screws, every DS Lite in the US should have this happen to them sooner or later. I think maybe plastic quality, and structural integrity from the screws.
damn, the right hinge is beginning to fall apart on my lite from just regular use, never dropped or damaged it in any way, people with the crack should closly look at the hinge when it is open and you will see there is a "line" across the right side.
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