Nintendo wont allow The Binding of Isaac on the 3DS eShop
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The issue here is the religious aspect... Japanese games have boobs and all that, but games in general need to be careful with what they post about certain religions, a game like Binding of Isaac has a lot of issues regarding that.. Seeing as it's about the bible, in a way, it's like making fun of it and that's why Nintendo probably didn't allow it... I kinda understand their position..
Have you got any example of sony/microsoft doing this? Nintendo are literally the only people I know who actually forbid games being on their store (or at least cases of them doing so is more reported on.) Of course they have a right, but its just illogical... It doesnt take a genius to see the e-shop has literally nothing to look forward to on it. And no, nintendo dont put their seal of approval on anything. They just provide a store where developers can post games. Only way nintendo would put a seal of approval on something is if they published a game. Maybe nintendo see the e-shop more as being THEIR shop and other people MAY BE WELCOME.
I understand what you're saying about MS not having a duty to approve everything on the internet, since no one really owns it and to cause nintendo have total control over their store, but still, they're the only ones that do it. (Unless you can find me a case where XBLA/PSN have done it) Heck, I bet even the app store would sell it if they wanted it on it.
I bet binding of isaac would be allowed on PSN/XBLA. Its just a game, seriously... Dantes inferno was released on 360/PS3, and that had questionable religious content where you kill babies, binding of issac is 2D and doesnt really have story, its probably lesser than dantes inferno actually.
So no, I still blame nintendo for being over protective. I really want to believe them when they say they're trying to include hardcore/casual gamers, but they're probably the ones that are holding it back. The 3rd parties are the only ones really doing anything to help that. By nintendo pushing this game away just makes me lose hope in what they say about these things... I hope nintendo realise people arent liking the family name much anymore. Sure, everybody bought a wii, but after a few months,maybe a year, most of them moved onto a 360/PS3, cause there was simply nothing in the Wii's library they wanted to play. People dont tend to make the same mistake twice, so I hope they heed these words and evolve past that image, and when they say everyone, they should mean EVERYONE.
Little Big Planet was delayed because the background music was citing lines from the quran.
My point was that Nintendo doesn't have a problem with having violent retail games on their console since many violent games have been released for their platforms, but having those games up for download would be a risky move.
Am I the only one who finds the 'reason' ludicrous?
I mean we just got Devil survivor 2! It jammed packed with all these religious and myth based demons, and yadda yadda.
Oh yeah it's also rated effin 'T' for Teen... not to mention this is number 2 in the series. >.>
I mean we just got Devil survivor 2! It jammed packed with all these religious and myth based demons, and yadda yadda.
Oh yeah it's also rated effin 'T' for Teen... not to mention this is number 2 in the series. >.>
Oh yeah, I've heard of that. However, that was simply a mistake really... I dont see how binding of isaac is offensive at all, (Unless you count the into).
I do see how its tricky on how to say how I feel about the intro without being offensive, ha ha, but even in the example you used, it wasnt outright blocked, just changed. Whether anything in Binding of isaac could be changed without drastically changing the gameplay, I dont know, but I do think its just nintendo wanting to keep that oh so precious family friendly image again. And I dont see how its bad to download the title online, but fine if its retail. The e-shop is just a platform nintendo use for devleopers to post their apps, not something where they need to approve it. Heck, they have all these parental settings on the 3DS, but no, instead they just make those settings useless if theres nothing kids shouldnt be seeing anyway.
Anyway, I do know what you're saying, but... I mean look at it, how many actual violent retail games are actually on 3DS? Vita got more on day 1 then 3DS did for a whole year nearly. Could just be that no developers want to make such games for 3DS, but if thats the case, nintendo should be asking themselves why.
Shin Megami Tensei games are completely different, they don't make fun of anything in the bible they just darken a bit of the stuff, myths, demons and all that are normal in games, nothing wrong with it, there's a demon called Lucifer, sure, but he's one of the strongest demons and they depict him with wings, charismatic and noble, which is in accordance with how he was before defying God.
Several games use religious elements, but they rarely use something in the way Isaac does.
Nothing you just listed was really a "religious" thing (well, maybe demons, but that's pushing it), but it sounds so utterly vile I can't see something like that ever standing a chance of getting approved.
Stuck in the 90's my ass. There's a far cry between not allowing this sort of content and removing crosses from tombstones and changing bars into cafes.
Well, theres quite a few... Dynasty Warriors, Unit 13, UMVC3, Uncharted, Army corps of hell, Dungeon hunter. So... Still more than I can name for 3DS really... Not to have a dig at 3DS or anything, I still love it and will love it even more when KH3D is out!!! But I dont know, I just dont see why 3Ds doesnt get some games.
Either way, yeah I dont see much offense with binding of isaac, as I said, only the possible, cause I believe its similar to the story in the bible where god tells a father to kill his son, and this is similar to that I guess. Not gonna say my views on it in case I cause offense, but I dont think its grounds enough in my opinion to stop a game. Its not even just this that annoys me, its more that theres nothing really to be excited for on it upcoming and theres one thing that can cause interest and its blocked. Plus the fact th people who own the devices arent all children and we can make up our own minds. Heck, make us all sign a contract to not sue if I find anything offensive if they're that bothered about that, we just want games on the eshop, seriously...
Yeah I see what you mean, though when speaking of M rated 3DS titles, there's RE, MGS, Dynasty warriors vs, Spirit Camera, Street Fighter, Splinter Cell and there will be games like the Conduit and Dementium on it.
Maybe it's because I'm too jaded but I wouldn't count Dynasty Warriors, UMVC3, Dungeon Hunter or even Uncharted as Violent.
Maybe it's because I'm too jaded but I wouldn't count Dynasty Warriors, UMVC3, Dungeon Hunter or even Uncharted as Violent.
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I'm seriously thinking this is some BS...
There have been many video games which insult other views and religions before [many gamers who defended them] but when it comes to something a little too close to home [US has a lot of Christians] it's not kewl!
This is my last post here, but I'm not just bitching about Isaac, but this could have complications for future games.
There have been many video games which insult other views and religions before [many gamers who defended them] but when it comes to something a little too close to home [US has a lot of Christians] it's not kewl!
This is my last post here, but I'm not just bitching about Isaac, but this could have complications for future games.
Games fitting the genres of those you mentioned you have the following for the 3DS:
Samurai Warriors Chronicles (if you don't know, it's almost the same as Dinasty Warriors, main dif is that one is in Japan and the other in China), Monster Hunter, Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater, Resident Evil Revelations, Resident Evil Mercenaries... Hell... Unlike it's preceding Nintendo consoles it's even full of fighters after being released for roughly one year: Street Fighter, Blazblue, Dead or Alive, Tekken and maybe some other ones released in Japan. How can you say that the 3DS has no violent games when there's so many being released for the 3DS? There's even horror games, like Spirit Camera, a Japanese like horror game with AR elements and all that, stuff that normally wouldn't leave Japan, but now will reach the whole world.
Nintendo has become much more open to games compared to the past, even the DS has some CoD games, crappy as hell, but it had them.
I played Binding of Isaac and that game is so wrong in many ways, it's not suited for a console, not just handhelds, on PC's you can play and do many stuff, but there are things that won't work well outside it.
Where did I say theres no 3DS violent games? And yeah, I guess I wasnt thinking of the side scroller fighters, I can name quite a few for 3DS if thats the case. I wouldnt call spirit camera a violent game though, its just scary, there is a difference. All the others you listed count, but you do see what I mean? Vita suprisingly is very close to 3DS's level of those games already, if not there already, and again you're counting japan games too, (Not that I know any there that arent coming here).
Either way... I think both consoles are great and I hope vita pushes 3DS to be better online and 3DS pushes Vita to be unique about things and get more games (I dont mean just get more games, but I mean games to make people want a vita, to me, I feel its just after you get a vita, what games would be good to have on it, while for 3DS, I wanted a heck of game they announced for it, and for vita, mainly bioshock vita, that game is a game I would find it hard to live without and for now, I dont feel that way about many announced vita games. Dont get me wrong, I'm looking forward to things like LBP, Resistance, Killzone, etc. But if I never got a vita, I dont think I'd be looking on wishing I had one to play them)
Well, this is a great opportunity for these developlers to release their game on their own website, for the 3DS, charge for it, with no DRM (basically a "Homebrew" game), and reap the rewards.
I know that.
Convertion to DS/DSi compatible rom is too difficult and require rewriting whole program or make it from scratch.
Convertion to DS/DSi compatible rom is too difficult and require rewriting whole program or make it from scratch.
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