Student Protest, man pulled from wheelchair by police

emigre · Dec 15, 2010

The man has cerebal palsly and he's a semi-famous activist so I find any idea, that he's been hired quite ridiculous. And secondly, the idea this is properganda is also ridiculous. I find the idea of faking police officers quite hard to beleive. And considering it was the Met police involved gives credence to the complaint of police brutality. At the G20 protests there was footage of an officer commiting an unprovated assult on a man. The man in question later died leading to accusations, the earlier assult had played a role int eh man's death as he was hit on the head.

redsmas · Dec 15, 2010

jarejare3 said:
Like i said, the students most probaly edited this or the guy in the wheel chair could be hired to do it or something.
Because with the things happening and all, they need support and this is how they get it ( PROPAGANDA).
Maybe the police is retarded or something. But hey, don't just make conclusion from one perspective.

They have already checked the legitimately of the video (I even had somebody I know in the media industry to check for me as well)

gamefreak94 · Dec 15, 2010

CarbonX13 said:
gamefreak94 said:

CarbonX13 said:

gamefreak94 said:

I don't get it why you guys are getting mad? Aren't the police supposed to be cautious at all times? You guys act like they police knew who he was and so the decided to pick on him.
Don't get me wrong I don't like the police as much as you guys do but you have to take in consideration that the police have to take precaution, and when words don't help they have to use action or no one would actually take them seriously.
And in all honesty, what precautionary terms would they need to take on a guy in a wheelchair, incapable of moving the damn thing without the assistance of another person? The most you'd need to do with a guy like that would be to simply push him away, no need to yank the guy off his wheelchair, twice even. It's the way the situation was dealt with that really irritates me. He's disabled for God's sake, no need to drag him out when he's already unable to do any self defense.

Again, its precaution. Anyone can pretend/disguise themselves to be disabled. Like again, its not like they knew him personally. And if you watch the video, he actually tries to dodge the question that he was wheeling himself to the police. I know he said it is physically impossible for him to use his wheel chair him self but his brother doing it for him, but notice the length difference between him and the crowd. I'm pretty sure his brother would have noticed after he went more than 2 feet. And he keeps repeating " Does it look like a disabled person in a wheel chair can cause a threat to a police officer with weapons" or something along those lines. Of course he won't tell the media stuff like, I said this and I did that. I think they need to have an interview with the police and the crowd to see what happened through another perspective.

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You'd think that they'd realize he's actually disabled the first time they threw him off he wheelchair without him defending himself in any way. It's taking a step too far, not be cautious. Precautionary procedures would've been to approach those within the people that would've caused noticeable damage (a.k.a. the 99.9% of the protesters that weren't in a wheelchair). What are the actual odds of a guy faking being disabled in a protest? And judging from the interview, the dude's gave off the impression that he may have a mental illness of some sorts as well, so I'd assume that his communication skills may be sub-par to what people may expect as well.

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Did you not read what i said? Tell me this, why is he so far away from the other protesters huh? And anyways, they need to interview other people, not just the victim b/c of course its going to be biased. QUOTE

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What are the actual odds of a guy faking being disabled in a protest?

So you are telling me that people will never disguise them selves to hurt other people, okay.*Stares at the millions of terrorist* I'm sure if there was someone who actually did disguise themselves as a disabled and someone ended up getting killed, you guys would probably be like "Stupid police not doing their jobs. They should have took precaution." Anyways, why would a handicap be in a riot protest. Of course there are chances of someone getting hurt, so why didn't he try to avoid it. Oh that's right because he is a revolutionary. Anyways, we will find out what really happens when he orders a law suit.

Midna · Dec 15, 2010

gamefreak94 said:
I don't get it why you guys are getting mad? Aren't the police supposed to be cautious at all times? You guys act like they police knew who he was and so the decided to pick on him.
Don't get me wrong I don't like the police as much as you guys do but you have to take in consideration that the police have to take precaution, and when words don't help they have to use action or no one would actually take them seriously.

Because the police must be very cautious around a man with cerebral palsy sitting in a wheelchair near a protest.

scrtmstr · Dec 15, 2010

stupid, those police officers should be identified and fired. I've got 2 disabled guys in my school, both in wheelchairs. I know one of them quite well, and we treat him like a normal person, but this goes to far.

Ossot · Dec 15, 2010

That's messed up and all, but England is seriously the most liberal place on Earth. You lot get upset at some retardedly tame stuff. It's like the complete complete opposite of some down south American homebred baptist republicans.

And I reckon I should add, I'm liberal as shit myself, and still frequently WTF at English news stories and how insanely liberal they are.

Waynes1987 · Dec 15, 2010

The fact is, if i saw someone in a wheel chair and pulled him from it because he could be pretending to be disabled and infact be a bomber, Id probably be done for assault. The fact is The police Take libertys with what exactly there allowed to do.

So he was being pushed on the road. The police probably told him to get on the side, He probably said it was his right to be on the road. They dragged his ass to the side where they wanted him. Why is it wrong?

Well because we have rights for one, Fuck i've lost count of the amount of times the police have told me to move away from somewhere and ive told them to go fuck themselves. I mean seriously there supposed to be here to serve and protect. But what exactly are they protecting?
There just human beings like the rest of us, Flawed to the will of there own emotions.
You say that to any police man whos had a bad day and he'll drag your ass where he wants it. its just something they do.

The whole thing he was talking about though media trying to act like activists throwing "missiles" ect and they had reason to act like there was a threat. its all bollocks to me to be fair.

Id ask the police one question, "if that was steven hawking in the chair "wheeling" towards you, would you have pulled him from the chair too" if they replied with yeah, then fair do's.

That being said i hate the police personally. Telling me i cant do stuff i want to do because its illegal. Everyone knows the stuff they take off you they keep for them selves. Cheap bastards lol

Omninox · Dec 16, 2010

first they shove a old lady to the floor, then they hospitalise a student, then they blame students of dragging police off their horses and beating them up, when the truth was that a policeman fell off his horse and got trampled by it.... and now this

Its like theres no level of how low they can steep. Disgusting!

Stevetry · Dec 16, 2010

dam students i hope they break their heads

Law · Dec 16, 2010

Stevetry said:
dam students i hope they break their heads

YEAH FUCK PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BETTER THEMSELVES THROUGH EDUCATION WITHOUT LANDING IN £21,000 WORTH OF DEBT

Minox · Dec 16, 2010

gamefreak94 said:
Did you not read what i said? Tell me this, why is he so far away from the other protesters huh? And anyways, they need to interview other people, not just the victim b/c of course its going to be biased.

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What are the actual odds of a guy faking being disabled in a protest?

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So you are telling me that people will never disguise them selves to hurt other people, okay.*Stares at the millions of terrorist* I'm sure if there was someone who actually did disguise themselves as a disabled and someone ended up getting killed, you guys would probably be like "Stupid police not doing their jobs. They should have took precaution." Anyways, why would a handicap be in a riot protest. Of course there are chances of someone getting hurt, so why didn't he try to avoid it. Oh that's right because he is a revolutionary. Anyways, we will find out what really happens when he orders a law suit.

Are you honestly implying that students are terrorists?

They're protesting against something they deem unfair, they want to change something - not destroy everything/kill someone. Is that a valid reason for overuse/(abuse) of police force?

And disguise themselves as disabled? Really? What possible purpose could ever need such a procedure? And what would you even gain by doing so?

Law · Dec 16, 2010

Minox_IX said:
gamefreak94 said:

Did you not read what i said? Tell me this, why is he so far away from the other protesters huh? And anyways, they need to interview other people, not just the victim b/c of course its going to be biased.

QUOTE said:

What are the actual odds of a guy faking being disabled in a protest?

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So you are telling me that people will never disguise them selves to hurt other people, okay.*Stares at the millions of terrorist* I'm sure if there was someone who actually did disguise themselves as a disabled and someone ended up getting killed, you guys would probably be like "Stupid police not doing their jobs. They should have took precaution." Anyways, why would a handicap be in a riot protest. Of course there are chances of someone getting hurt, so why didn't he try to avoid it. Oh that's right because he is a revolutionary. Anyways, we will find out what really happens when he orders a law suit.

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Are you honestly implying that students are terrorists?

They're protesting against something they deem unfair, they want to change something - not destroy everything/kill someone. Is that a valid reason for overuse/(abuse) of police force?

And disguise themselves as disabled? Really? What possible purpose could ever need such a procedure? And what would you even gain by doing so?

I hear it's a great way to pick up chicks.

Stevetry · Dec 16, 2010

Law said:
Stevetry said:

dam students i hope they break their heads

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YEAH FUCK PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BETTER THEMSELVES THROUGH EDUCATION WITHOUT LANDING IN £21,000 WORTH OF DEBT

they are a bunch of slackers over here in puertorico they wen on strike they are bunch of drug addicts that want more money to buy drugs and Communist

injected11 · Dec 16, 2010

Stevetry said:
Law said:

Stevetry said:

dam students i hope they break their heads

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YEAH FUCK PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BETTER THEMSELVES THROUGH EDUCATION WITHOUT LANDING IN £21,000 WORTH OF DEBT

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they are a bunch of slackers over here in puertorico they wen on strike they are bunch of drug addicts that want more money to buy drugs and Communist

Good job pretending a completely unrelated situation in a completely different place is exactly like this. I thought you were trolling. Turns out the truth is much sadder.

Waynes1987 · Dec 16, 2010

Stevetry said:
Law said:

Stevetry said:

dam students i hope they break their heads

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YEAH FUCK PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BETTER THEMSELVES THROUGH EDUCATION WITHOUT LANDING IN £21,000 WORTH OF DEBT

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they are a bunch of slackers over here in puertorico they wen on strike they are bunch of drug addicts that want more money to buy drugs and Communist

Yeah and the only people who take drugs are students??? Is that what your ignorance is implying?

Omninox · Dec 16, 2010

Stevetry said:
Law said:

Stevetry said:

dam students i hope they break their heads

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YEAH FUCK PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BETTER THEMSELVES THROUGH EDUCATION WITHOUT LANDING IN £21,000 WORTH OF DEBT

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they are a bunch of slackers over here in puertorico they wen on strike they are bunch of drug addicts that want more money to buy drugs and Communist

yeah your right, lets make all student pay £9,000 ($18,000) for each year they want to spend getting educated. That way the ones who cant afford it end up giving up on their education and take the path of the ally ways. Works out better don't you think? more druggies and brain dead people to join the economy, and less doctors to help idiots like you when you wind up needing medical help.

Let the economy burn

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Y05h1 · Dec 16, 2010

The government is paying me to study. No complaints here

Stevetry · Dec 16, 2010

Waynes1987 said:
Stevetry said:

Law said:

Stevetry said:

dam students i hope they break their heads

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YEAH FUCK PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BETTER THEMSELVES THROUGH EDUCATION WITHOUT LANDING IN £21,000 WORTH OF DEBT

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they are a bunch of slackers over here in puertorico they wen on strike they are bunch of drug addicts that want more money to buy drugs and Communist

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Yeah and the only people who take drugs are students??? Is that what your ignorance is implying?

i change university because of them i dont need to make stuff up i live it i oppose the strike and so did all other people and what they did to the people that dint agree with them either got their cars vandalize or well threatened.

not only that but the horors of what they did last week going in rampage breaking cars ECT

Pliskron · Dec 16, 2010

The UK is frigging broke. Where the frig do these students think the money is going to come from. Big bulletin, there is no money, there never was any money. The government just made it up and now the bill has come in for their irresponsible vote buying splurge. Now since the UK is broke it doesn't matter if you burn all the cars and bust all the shop windows, hang up side down from the lamp posts, while proclaiming allegiance to Carl Marx, There's no money, no credit. People are going to have to just suck it up and pay for the shit that they want. What the hell happened to England anyway? They went from being a world power to vertically a 3rd would country in the spam of a generation because of Socialism and corrupt politicians buying elections with goodies for the public.

Depravo · Dec 16, 2010

It's a typical Conservative policy. The long-term goal is that in a generations time the only people with good a education are those that come from wealthy, middle class backgrounds (ie Conservative voters). People from working class backgrounds will never have the opportunity to be anything else. It wouldn't do for the plebs to get big ideas.

Of course deliberately 'dumbing down' a large proportion of the populace is a fucking stupid, arrogant and egocentric thing to do but as I said, it's typically Conservative.

Is it not in the best interest of a country that all it's citizens are well educated and not just the wealthy ones?

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