Block BOTH disk and online updates? Can I still receive updates from the Nintendo Channel through this though as a channel taht I downloaded that I check regularly? After you satisfy me with this I am gone!
....what do you mean by update myself later? I want to still receive the updates from Nintendo but not have it BRICK my Wii. Also could I enable the No-delete DVDX hack so I can see if I can play DVD's and the like on the Wii? I will do as you say sir.
Styles420 said:
Not true, you can manually update IOSes (other than your system menu IOS) and even official channels manually without (much) risk of bricking. I have personally updated several IOSes (including IOS58) and the Nintendo/Shop/Internet channel with no problems and without using Nintendo's update feature. Remember, all that really matters is the version of whatever software you are using (channel, game, etc) and it's IOS.
just to want to add one thing:
I'wrote before in cIOS 20 thread that i'm not using cIOS anymore. It has a lot of bugs and brake normal work of application comparing with normal IOS.
So, i moved to patched IOS giving me more access to system, but *still* through Nintendo code. And it works fine.
Now, with new TT policy, we (developers) HAVE TO use custom drivers for hardware which is pretty much the same set of bugs as cIOS. It's very lame and shame after all...
I'wrote before in cIOS 20 thread that i'm not using cIOS anymore. It has a lot of bugs and brake normal work of application comparing with normal IOS.
So, i moved to patched IOS giving me more access to system, but *still* through Nintendo code. And it works fine.
Now, with new TT policy, we (developers) HAVE TO use custom drivers for hardware which is pretty much the same set of bugs as cIOS. It's very lame and shame after all...
sorgelig said:
what "rule" ? it's THEIR website and THEIR library, they have the right to do what they want and they probably know better than the rest of us what's better for homebrew community. They say that modifying IOS has always been dangerous and clearly lead to potential issues with a lot of things, issuing unexplicable bugs in applications as we all have noticed at least once (black screen issues when loading homebrew anyone ?). They also say that this is now unnecessary so they prefer removing applications that modify IOS from their website to avoid any confusion; is that so hard to understand ?
If you are not software developer then i can answer "No, it won't speed up DVD access. Whole DVD access can be granted after patching DVD_LowUnencryptedRead in IOS. DVD speed in Wii is limited by hardware rather than software."QUOTE said:They say that modifying IOS has always been dangerous and clearly lead to potential issues with a lot of things
That's why they opened more dangerous way - direct HW access? Do you see logic? me - not.
With HW access you won't know what application will do intentionaly or by accident.
"They say" - depend on what they want to say. They claims have enough frighten words just to frighten piracy. Similarily Nintendo announce with every update how homebrew (including HBC of course) can distroy your Wii.
I think especially at DVD accessQUOTE said:(black screen issues when loading homebrew anyone ?)
Nintendo is fighting against homebrew (i'm not talking about piracy since homebrew=piracy in Nintendo's words) and can do whatever they want. They can make software update or even hardware change to make major homebrew fail to launch. This is generic rule - "prepare that all known vulnerabilities won't run on newer hardware/firmware". HBC wasn't exception and wasn't run on newer Wii when they started to appear.
Exactly oppositeQUOTE said:NAND has BEEN protected by IOS before. With direct HW access it won't be protected by anything. Also, there are several Windows apps available to decrypt and unpack NAND dump. So, nothing is impossible (Adidas?).
There is a great app (or how to call it) - SNEEK. It allows you to do whatever you want on copy of your NAND without risk of bricking. Made something wrong? Reformat your SD card and put copy of NAND there again? What easiest and safest way can be? I don't know.
With direct access SNEEK won't work. At least it will be extremely hard to emulate NAND.
Direct access to HW in Gamecube mode prevents emulation Gamecube environment in SNEEK (I would very glad to get gamecube memory card emulation on SD). So it will be the same for Wii mode. After using emulated NAND i DON'T want to get back to real NAND experiments "granted" by TT. I think, everybody who succesfully run SNEEK will tell the same.
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also, it gives a whole new stuff to discover
But if you are developer then it's shame to tell such silly claim.
They can make rules they want. I didn't say they *can't*. They even can release new HBC which instead of installing HBC will remove it along with all patched IOSes and install vanilla ones with newest System Menu 4.4 (especially made by Nintendo for TT with all holes closed). Will you still think it is better for you? Just because it's from TT?QUOTE said:
It's they website, but sorry, only few code is theirs. Everybody knows TT's code is most important since it's opened door to homebrew. But, hey there are many apps developed not by them. As others need to respect them, they also need to respect other developers.
They are not Gods like you think.
P.S.: Are you prefer that somebody decides what is better for you? I don't...
QUOTE said:I think, you are to addicted to TT. Even to hack Wii, there are some differences any time. One Wii you can hack stright forward while another you can't do so easy. More choices you have, more possibility to hack Wii. Isn't hard to understand?
I'm not "addicted", I just understand the way they feel and I approve their reasonning, which you don't.
You actually HAVE that choice, it's just not on wiibrew anymore. You want to use backup loaders ? off course you can, it's just not supported on that particular website (it's their right and everybody understand it so far) but there are plenty other sites that can help you. That's the way i feel.
I think especially at DVD accessQUOTE said:Of course, removed apps haven't been vanished (thanks God, wiibrew.org doesn't host SVN repository).
I hope, some one will setup (i saw one attempt already) site similar to wiibrew but without such strict rules. Developer (TT) hosting (ok, may be just administer site) society's website is always ends this way. What developers of removed apps feel? They even spent time to make wiki page to organise everything and somebody came and erased everything. Good way, yay...
again, speak for yourself, I 'm pretty sure Arikado or SirJar who maintaned DOP-mii or the Shop installer perfectly agree with that new stance.
and they didn't erased "everything", what's the need of exagerating things, they only removed a few apps that were either outdated or not maintaned anymore.
The others can perfectly be rewritten not to use patched IOS, which they probably will.
then don't use it, you are not forced to use direct HW access, you know ? it's a feature, nothing more, i don't understand the hate for it :/QUOTE said:Exactly oppositeNAND has BEEN protected by IOS before. With direct HW access it won't be protected by anything. Also, there are several Windows apps available to decrypt and unpack NAND dump. So, nothing is impossible (a-la Adidas).
you don't know what you are talking about, NAND is still protected, even when the AHBPROT bit is set, best proof is that actually, only TT know how to install channels on NAND without relying on the fakesigning bug !
QUOTEThere is a great app (or how to call it) - SNEEK. It allows you to do whatever you want on copy of your NAND without risk of bricking. Made something wrong? Reformat your SD card and put copy of NAND there again? What easiest and safest way can be? I don't know.
With direct access SNEEK won't work. At least it will be extremely hard to emulate NAND.
Direct access to HW in Gamecube mode prevents emulation Gamecube environment in SNEEK (I would very glad to get gamecube memory card emulation on SD). So it will be the same for Wii mode. After using emulated NAND i DON'T want to get back to real NAND experiments "granted" by TT. I think, everybody who succesfully run SNEEK will tell the same.
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also, it gives a whole new stuff to discover
If you are not software developer then i can answer "No, it won't speed up DVD access. Whole DVD access can be granted after patching DVD_LowUnencryptedRead in IOS. DVD speed in Wii is limited by hardware rather than software."
But if you are developer then it's shame to tell such silly claim.
that's a fact: using direct DVD register access is faster than using IPC to communcate with IOS to tell it do the same thing
I'm not speaking about going over the limit of the DVD drive, i'm speaking about doing faster DMA access
wow, never knew the number of quote was limited
lol, no but I'm also pretty sure they know what they are doing unlike many so-called "hackers" here. Off course they are no god, they are just serious people who think they have some kind of responsability with what they are releasing or endorsing on their website.
As I said above, if I want to use backup loaders or patched IOS, I know what I can do and I also know where I can find infos about it and where I won't find infos. I don't see any problems with wiibrew keeping this kind of infos out of their field of application and honestly, it usually brings much more trouble and annoying forum users than you want
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lol, no but I'm also pretty sure they know what they are doing unlike many so-called "hackers" here. Off course they are no god, they are just serious people who think they have some kind of responsability with what they are releasing or endorsing on their website.
As I said above, if I want to use backup loaders or patched IOS, I know what I can do and I also know where I can find infos about it and where I won't find infos. I don't see any problems with wiibrew keeping this kind of infos out of their field of application and honestly, it usually brings much more trouble and annoying forum users than you want
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