Hacking 3DS may spell end to Ninty's piracy woes.

Omega_2 · Jul 15, 2010

And for the record: "If it's made by humans, it can NEVER be safe."
Implying that protections can't last forever.

BedtimeGuy · Jul 15, 2010

ibis_87 said:
I don't see a problem here.

Look at the iPhone. Apple has best people working on the protection of their devices' firmwares - and still even a child of 8 can jailbreak every Apple portable device.

The thing that drives hacking is interest in the platform. Millions of people go crazy over the Iphone - cracked! iPad - cracked in days. Not to mention the Wii and the 360.

The only reason I see the PS3 isn't hacked is it's launch. There were almost no good exclusives in 2006 - so the initial momentum was lost, Sony took their time to improve the protection. When Dark Alex quit, he said the PSP protection went like 90% up since launch, and that they were still using some exploits they found in early firmwares.

Now, the Wii was hacked quickly because of the interest in motion gaming. X360- because of its early launch and interest in next-gen graphics. The PSP - because it had mind-blowing game quality, DS- because of the great library.

The only reason of the Dsi is not hacked is the lack of interest, Sure, DsiWare has some good titles - but they are not killer apps. If it was a full-blown Mario or Zelda game, the situation would have changed rapidly, I'm pretty sure. As for SD-loading... come on, the flashcarts are really cheap, no need to bother. Speaking of cheapness, the DsiWare's also pretty cheap, 10 bucks at best, again. no need to bother.

As for 3DS, the interest will be over-the-top. The initial line-up is great. So people will be trying their best to hack it. Having a very good start of the backward compatibility - the very same way it all started on the DS.

And finally, we don't really know, HOW sophisticated the protection will be. It's only natural Nintendo is saying it's so great, you don't expect them to be inviting people to hack their latest machine, do you?

it's SO true! i thinkt hat the issue of whether or not somehtign will be hacked is decided by interest alone, but how long? depends on the security. could take up to (and maybe over) a year if they use some complicated hyperviser (

MLRX · Jul 15, 2010

adgloride said:
If the protection can't be broke (Which I doubt). Nintendo will soon be seeing that the 3DS is doing badly on sales.

Probably for sales after 3 months or so but they will always have the true hard nintendo fans that like to buy everything the first day

_Chaz_ · Jul 15, 2010

Gaydrian said:
adgloride said:

If the protection can't be broke (Which I doubt). Nintendo will soon be seeing that the 3DS is doing badly on sales.

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Like Sony with PSP sales.

Oh wait.

Quite frankly seeing how big the Nintendo brand name is, they could easily do well. They do well as it is on games sales.

Fixed.

Seriously, ever since they became harder to hack PSP's just haven't been selling.

monkat · Jul 15, 2010

_Chaz_ said:
Gaydrian said:

adgloride said:

If the protection can't be broke (Which I doubt). Nintendo will soon be seeing that the 3DS is doing badly on sales.

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Like Sony with PSP sales.

Oh wait.

Quite frankly seeing how big the Nintendo brand name is, they could easily do well. They do well as it is on games sales.

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Fixed.

Seriously, ever since they became harder to hack PSP's just haven't been selling.

It has nothing to do with perceived lack of games, poor battery life, people who already have an older (yet almost as good) model, UMD issues (the GO), or just general lack of interest due to market domination by Ninty. Definitely being more difficult to crack. Totally.

_Chaz_ · Jul 15, 2010

monkat said:
_Chaz_ said:

Gaydrian said:

adgloride said:

If the protection can't be broke (Which I doubt). Nintendo will soon be seeing that the 3DS is doing badly on sales.

Click to expand...

Like Sony with PSP sales.

Oh wait.

Quite frankly seeing how big the Nintendo brand name is, they could easily do well. They do well as it is on games sales.

Click to expand...

Fixed.

Seriously, ever since they became harder to hack PSP's just haven't been selling.

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It has nothing to do with perceived lack of games, poor battery life, people who already have an older (yet almost as good) model, UMD issues (the GO), or just general lack of interest due to market domination by Ninty. Definitely being more difficult to crack. Totally.

So, you agree?

KikiaHirigoushi · Jul 15, 2010

I'd like to point out that Dsi ware has been hacked and there are flash cards but te games and system is so retarded no one even cares about it. Like if you guys did even a little more research then just click the first link you'd find out there are flash cards. This exactly proves how unpopular it is and even if i'm wrong who relaly gives a shit about the Dsi haven't met one person who wanted it or has it but everyone has a DSlite

dhjohn · Jul 15, 2010

KikiaHirigoushi said:
I'd like to point out that Dsi ware has been hacked and there are flash cards but te games and system is so retarded no one even cares about it. Like if you guys did even a little more research then just click the first link you'd find out there are flash cards. This exactly proves how unpopular it is and even if i'm wrong who relaly gives a shit about the Dsi haven't met one person who wanted it or has it but everyone has a DSlite

Rydian · Jul 15, 2010

KikiaHirigoushi said:
I'd like to point out that Dsi ware has been hacked

Lies.

Also, I have a DSi.

tk_saturn · Jul 15, 2010

KikiaHirigoushi said:
I'd like to point out that ...

I'd like to point out that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Typical n00b who signs up and then starts preaching, without knowing anything.

monkat · Jul 15, 2010

This thread has turned into a huge flame.

Grats, OP!

Rydian · Jul 15, 2010

monkat said:
This thread has turned into a huge flame.

Grats, OP!Excuse me mister? Let me point out how wrong you are by dissecting your post.

monkat said:

This threadFirst off, you don't even know what's going on, as this is not a thread. It's a cake. Where the hell did you even get "thread" from? Thread is certainly not a delicious treat, and depending on the material's it's made from, may not even be edible!

monkat said:

hasCake cannot own something. If it did cakes would have girlfriends instead of us, ending the human race as we'd be unable to breed.

QUOTE(monkat @ Jul 15 2010, 12:40 AM) turned into

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Obviously if cakes had shape-shifting powers they would have revolted and killed us. This has not happened, so you are wrong.

QUOTE(monkat @ Jul 15 2010, 12:40 AM)

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a huge flame.

Why would you consider cooking a cake? It's already cooked! You're obviously criminally insane, and I'll have to ask you to not come to my next dinner party.

dsfanatic5 · Jul 15, 2010

@Rydian (I would've quoted but you exceeded gbatemp's allowed quotes per response)

You should focus your energy into something more productive than dissecting pointless posts on gbatemp. Responding is one thing, but your post is something else. If you've gone out of your way to prove yourself, then you've suceeded, but I suggest you take a closer look at how it comes across. You seem like a cool person, and are probably capable of great things. Make use of your power, and you will succeed. Take care.

Rydian · Jul 15, 2010

dsfanatic5 said:
@Rydian (I would've quoted but you exceeded gbatemp's allowed quotes per response)

You should focus your energy into something more productive than dissecting pointless posts on gbatemp. Responding is one thing, but your post is something else. If you've gone out of your way to prove yourself, then you've suceeded, but I suggest you take a closer look at how it comes across. You seem like a cool person, and are probably capable of great things. Make use of your power, and you will succeed. Take care.

You didn't read my post, did you?

I thought this was in the EoF, sorry.

T3GZdev · Jul 15, 2010

regnad said:
t377y000 said:

David600Villa said:

Nothing is impossible, it just takes time

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has the DSi in DSimode been hacked yet?
are there any DSi homebrews out yet?

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If the piraters really wanted to, they could crack that system like a nut!

They just don't find the DSi mode interesting, or challenging, or worth the effort. Or there aren't enough people working on it, because there's nothing but shovelware available, and the homebrew possibilities are too lame. Or something.

That, plus they have to take the car in for an oil change, and they have to get some laundry done because it's really starting to pile up.

But it has nothing to do with successful anti-piracy! Nothing whatsoever! Don't let anyone tell you that!

but they cant hack the DSi, if they could we would probably be walking wroung with hacked or modded DSis like the wii & DS.
iv only seen 1 person actually seen line 3 people try & they quit.

i only want DSi mode hacked for DSi homebrew(no pirating), i think DSi homebrew will be far more better than just DS homebrew.
the stronger cpu, the bigger ram, the internal storage, the camera, the sd slot.
& dont bring up acekard 2i, thats in DS mode not DSi mode. (there are no DSi mode flash carts yet.)

as for 3DS it wont be hacked, nintendos enhancing there security over the years & 3DS will be more open to online.
as for 3DS flash carts? whats the perpous? it already wil do everything. music, 3d movies, 3d video chat,3d internet browser games, software installs, 3d pictures & camera, makign a flash cart for 3DS that would be like making a musiic & video player dick for ps3.

Gnargle · Jul 15, 2010

@Rhydian
OH CHRIST ALMIGHTY I LOL'D!
@dsfanatic
You best be trolling.

t377y000 said:
as for 3DS it wont be hacked, nintendos enhancing there security over the years & 3DS will be more open to online.
as for 3DS flash carts? whats the perpous? it already wil do everything. music, 3d movies, 3d video chat,3d internet browser games, software installs, 3d pictures & camera, makign a flash cart for 3DS that would be like making a musiic & video player dick for ps3.

You ask what the point is for 3DS flashcarts, having said only a paragraph earlier that you want homebrew for the DSi. I don't know, could that be a reason?
Also, you talk about the AK2i. We know that isn't DSi mode, we're not stupid.
Finally - start using capital letters. They're an incredible invention.

T3GZdev · Jul 15, 2010

Gnargle said:
@Rhydian
OH CHRIST ALMIGHTY I LOL'D!
@dsfanatic
You best be trolling.

t377y000 said:

as for 3DS it wont be hacked, nintendos enhancing there security over the years & 3DS will be more open to online.
as for 3DS flash carts? whats the perpous? it already wil do everything. music, 3d movies, 3d video chat,3d internet browser games, software installs, 3d pictures & camera, makign a flash cart for 3DS that would be like making a musiic & video player dick for ps3.

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You ask what the point is for 3DS flashcarts, having said only a paragraph earlier that you want homebrew for the DSi. I don't know, could that be a reason?
Also, you talk about the AK2i. We know that isn't DSi mode, we're not stupid.
Finally - start using capital letters. They're an incredible invention.

well yea theres homebrew, but what if nintendo or some random develouper makes something where you can make your own 3D games, app, or browser on it.

Rydian · Jul 15, 2010

t377y000 said:
browser on it.

Oh woah, holy crap, idea. If the 3DS can somehow do flash 10 (and add the ability to resize flashes and map the 3DS's buttons/pad to emulating keyboard keys) then people could just play flash games on the 3DS, opening up (limited) homebrew while not allowing piracy.

... At which point Wii users will feel shafted as they are stuck with flash 7 and no native keyboard controls.

This also made me think, what about the 3DS picture format? Will it be something like APNG, where it shows up as a non-3D image in things that don't support it, but will show up as 3D on the 3DS? That'd be great because then people could make web pages to share 3DS images on. =D

FireGrey · Jul 15, 2010

Even if it is hacked, it won't be able to play 3DS games since there will be huge AP on it...
And if Nintendo have to they will ban Flashcarts from going into shipping...

TM2-Megatron · Jul 15, 2010

FireGrey said:
And if Nintendo have to they will ban Flashcarts from going into shipping...

Nintendo doesn't own the world's postal services. And there's only so much customs can do.

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