FIXED!!! Investigating Wood 1.62 NAND save problems

AmigaFred · Aug 24, 2024

i Have a Gateway Blue card for a long time, and never try this Wario DIY.
If i want to play with it, i need your modified kernel, and follow your tutorial ?
With only one game ?
I respect your hard work, but only one game on an sd :/
I never eard before about this game and bug.
Is there some other games who hangs on this old kinker ?

Thanks for your work

davidmorom · Aug 25, 2024

Hi AmigaFred, thanks for your interest!

The guide I wrote initially is for the original kernel, which is bugged and WarioWare DIY and Jam with the Band don't work, or only work in a very specific scenario.

A couple of days later I realized what the problem was, so I patched the kernel and now both games work perfectly fine, as expected. You only have to download the file "Blue Gateway Wood Kernel 1.62.rar" from the first post, extract it to the root of you SD card, and then copy as many games as you want. The only consideration is to format the card in FAT32, specially if it is bigger than 32GB.

With this patched kernel, the only non working game that I'm aware of is "Puppy Palace / My Puppy Shop". The USA version of "Emily the Strange" doesn't work neither, but the EUR version seems to work fine.

For Pokemon BW2 you need to activate the AP-Fix cheat, to prevent the game acting weirdly (pokemons not gaining exp, for example).

Hope this helps you.

edgii · 2024-10-04T20:14:27+0100

BETA215 said:
No way. Unless you want to burn the few bridges that are still present, it isn't a topic to discuss with whoever might still be around us from that team. There's a reason why it stopped being open source, and why they seem to still haven't changed their mind years and years later.

Just recently EZ-Flash took Wood R4 and modified it for their own flashcard (such a terrible execution, it's so incredibly bad). Chinese manufacturers can't stop milking the dead cow Wood R4 is, whether with the clones (some even include a Wood4TT kernel in their flashcards that doesn't even works) or this now recently released flashcard. So convincing them of making the last version open source seems something pretty far from happening.

Again, I'm all in for making it open source, I want it too. Sometimes you just gotta do what you can, and see if things change someday.

as much as i understand their reasoning it just isn't good
you will literally never stop chinese companies from violating copyright law, the only thing keeping it closed source does at this point is punish literally everyone else for something they didn't even do
but i'm essentially just talking at a brick wall here. i just hate that ds flashcarts are essentially stuck in the dark ages partially as a result of this and partially because everything available is either a shitty clone of a shitty clone or original but outright bad

4d1xlaan · 2024-10-04T23:15:54+0100

for what it's worth, normmatt was open (lol) to ~~open-sourcing akaio~~ at least releasing builds without clone detection code, now that acekard team basically hasn't existed in over a decade, but the blocking issue is that the source doesn't build with modern toolchain. maybe they would be willing to accept private contributions to bring it up to date, and maybe they'd also be willing to simply open-source after all this time. the kernel is pretty acekard-specific, but surely nothing prevents it from being forked and adapted to other hardware

BETA215 · 2024-10-05T04:21:02+0100

edgii said:
as much as i understand their reasoning it just isn't good
you will literally never stop chinese companies from violating copyright law, the only thing keeping it closed source does at this point is punish literally everyone else for something they didn't even do
but i'm essentially just talking at a brick wall here. i just hate that ds flashcarts are essentially stuck in the dark ages partially as a result of this and partially because everything available is either a shitty clone of a shitty clone or original but outright bad

Honestly, it's his code and we aren't entitled to have the latest version if we want to. The fact that it exists in the first place is wonderful, and Ace3DS+ (which is a clone being currently sold, and uses Wood) isn't half bad. Pair the kernel with AP patches in DSJ's cheat codes database, and you really got a solid flashcard. And if you wanna go even further, use TWiLightMenu++ in your flashcard and you'll probably be able to run the few games that might not work with the stock kernel.

The current state of flashcards isn't that bad, a bit of information goes a long way. It isn't super shockingly wonderful either, but tbh not a hellscape. It has improved.

https://www.flashcarts.net/ds-quick-start-guide

edgii · 2024-10-05T06:33:19+0100

BETA215 said:
Honestly, it's his code and we aren't entitled to have the latest version if we want to.

not what i was trying to say really, i just think the current state of things kind of sucks (though yes, it could in fact be worse)
i do hope at some point the source does get released or atleast nds-bootstrap/some other project gets to the same level of compatibility
i do have an ace3ds x and yea it's about the most solid flashcart you can actually buy, just not as great as some of the cards that used to be available
i think it mostly just bothers me because nds flashcarts should be in a much better state but because everything is a clone of a clone and very closed source we still have issues that SOME carts fixed well over a decade ago but aren't available anymore

4d1xlaan · 2024-10-05T14:07:41+0100

edgii said:
or atleast nds-bootstrap/some other project gets to the same level of compatibility

it's getting there tbh

BETA215 · 2024-10-05T16:21:18+0100

edgii said:
not what i was trying to say really, i just think the current state of things kind of sucks (though yes, it could in fact be worse)
i do hope at some point the source does get released or atleast nds-bootstrap/some other project gets to the same level of compatibility
i do have an ace3ds x and yea it's about the most solid flashcart you can actually buy, just not as great as some of the cards that used to be available
i think it mostly just bothers me because nds flashcarts should be in a much better state but because everything is a clone of a clone and very closed source we still have issues that SOME carts fixed well over a decade ago but aren't available anymore

You can use TWiLightMenu++ with both nds-bootstrap and your flashcard kernel at the same time. It's a setting you can change, and you can even change it per-game. Both can compliment each other.

Jayro · 2024-10-05T16:34:26+0100

davidmorom said:
It seems like this whole wood kernel thing is a VERY big mess, with a lot of versions, variations, clones...

The WOODR4 dev(s?) just need to open-source their project, it's pissed me off that it's been under lock and key all this time.

CMDreamer · 2024-10-05T16:40:56+0100

I've got a R4 flashcard clone and actually I've been using Wood (can't remember its version though), never had issues with the games beside two or three of them not working at all which got solved "out of nowhere". One of the games is Bejeweled 3 which I really love playing on my DSi XL. The microSD card I use is an 8 GB one.

Will test this modded kernel. Does it need something specific for it to work (beside the FAT32 formatting scheme)?

Thanks a lot!

davidmorom · 2024-10-05T17:51:56+0100

CMDreamer said:
I've got a R4 flashcard clone and actually I've been using Wood (can't remember its version though), never had issues with the games beside two or three of them not working at all which got solved "out of nowhere". One of the games is Bejeweled 3 which I really love playing on my DSi XL. The microSD card I use is an 8 GB one.

Will test this modded kernel. Does it need something specific for it to work (beside the FAT32 formatting scheme)?

Thanks a lot!

This is only for Ace3DS+/Ace3DS X/R4iLS and their respective clones, including Blue Gateway. Won't work on any other flashcart. You need to figure out what flashcart exactly is your R4 clone.

Take into account that this mod only fixes two games that never worked correctly on the mentioned flashcarts, WarioWare DIY and Jam with the band. If you don't have one of these flashcart or you are not interested in these two games, this is useless for you.

CMDreamer · 2024-10-05T18:14:49+0100

davidmorom said:
This is only for Ace3DS+/Ace3DS X/R4iLS and their respective clones, including Blue Gateway. Won't work on any other flashcart. You need to figure out what flashcart exactly is your R4 clone.

Take into account that this mod only fixes two games that never worked correctly on the mentioned flashcarts, WarioWare DIY and Jam with the band. If you don't have one of these flashcart or you are not interested in these two games, this is useless for you.

Thanks for the details.

You're correct, I don't have these two games and I don't have plans for playing them. I'll keep the wood kernel I already have.

Great job fixing the issue!

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