Hand Held Legend starts a Kickstarter for their GC Ultimate Controller Kit project

Marc_LFD · Friday at 1:40 PM

Bladexdsl said:
first of all nothing beats the wavebird gamecube controller and second if people want to pay that much for a GameCube controller let the fools waste their money. also them screws on the edges of analog stick are FUGLY

One thing that I was disappointed about the WaveBird is that it didn't have rumble/vibration, but it did use rechargeable batteries than an internal battery.

KirovAir · Friday at 1:43 PM

I LOVE projects like this. Will probably add this freak to my collection.

juandiego1993 · Friday at 2:17 PM

Oh, I have a question, what´s the posibility of international shipping? I`m fromChile and here we have a decent shipping system.. I know it will affect the cost but is it built to resist an international shipping?

Marc_LFD · Friday at 2:58 PM

juandiego1993 said:
Oh, I have a question, what´s the posibility of international shipping? I`m fromChile and here we have a decent shipping system.. I know it will affect the cost but is it built to resist an international shipping?

If an item is bubble wrapped correctly it'll get to its destination in one piece, unless an employee or porch pirate snatches it. I've sent HDDs to other countries and those things are fragile.

john87 · Friday at 4:00 PM

ShadowOne333 said:
Currently, their Kickstarter page lists the following features for the GC Ultimate Controller Kit:

Open source firmware and 3D models (Available on GitHub)

In fact, both the software and the PCB license are not open source; they are source-available. Specifically, since the license is CC BY-NC-SA, with the Non-Commercial clause, it makes the software proprietary according to the definitions provided by the Open Source Initiative and the Free Software Foundation. However, the 3D models are indeed free software and open source.

Bladexdsl · Friday at 4:30 PM

Marc_LFD said:
One thing that I was disappointed about the WaveBird is that it didn't have rumble/vibration, but it did use rechargeable batteries than an internal battery.

used to own 4 of them used them all the way up to the wiiu. was the ONLY way to play smash on the wiiu.

ciro64 · Friday at 4:38 PM

NiceMitch said:
You'd be surprised. I knew the design would be controversial, but I can guarantee if you try the split dpad you won't want to go back. There's definitely an art to it, and I do think something to do with the smaller size, plus the depth of the specific button, the split dpad setup works very well and gives you back a lot of precision that is otherwise to unspecified tilting behavior. I fully stand behind the design of that specific part, and I use it on all of my personal controllers. The dpad is fully open source on github (can't link it because spam filtering lol but it's on HandHeldLegend Github)

Fan of split dpads here, I love them exactly for addressing that unspecified tilting behavior. I think the one you made look gorgeous too!

Good luck on the project! Wasn't expecting n64 compatibility when I saw the video, that's so cool!

NiceMitch · Friday at 8:49 PM

john87 said:
In fact, both the software and the PCB license are not open source; they are source-available. Specifically, since the license is CC BY-NC-SA, with the Non-Commercial clause, it makes the software proprietary according to the definitions provided by the Open Source Initiative and the Free Software Foundation. However, the 3D models are indeed free software and open source.

I would consider the software protected and not necessarily proprietary. Individual bits of the code I've had no issue people using as reference or even to improve their own projects. I explicitly chose that license as I wanted to protect someone downloading the firmware as is, and selling it. I want to make it explicitly clear that I'm not going to be upset by anyone taking chunks of code and using it, rather just lifting the entire project and trying to sell it. I know it's not technically open source, but I just want to clarify my position here that this is primarily to prevent random Chinese manufacturers from marketing my idea before I've had any chance to recoup my own time and money on the project xD

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Bladexdsl said:
first of all nothing beats the wavebird gamecube controller and second if people want to pay that much for a GameCube controller let the fools waste their money. also them screws on the edges of analog stick are FUGLY

There are two kinds of people, those who love exposed screws and those who don't hahaha

ShadowOne333 · Friday at 9:16 PM

@NiceMitch one thing that always bothered me about the original Gamecube controller was the small D-Pad, it makes it annoying to play older/retro consoles with it.
Will the GC Ultimate have an option to feature a fully sized D-Pad if the user wants it? I assume the small D-Pad is the default option, is it not?

NiceMitch · Friday at 9:35 PM

ShadowOne333 said:
@NiceMitch one thing that always bothered me about the original Gamecube controller was the small D-Pad, it makes it annoying to play older/retro consoles with it.
Will the GC Ultimate have an option to feature a fully sized D-Pad if the user wants it? I assume the small D-Pad is the default option, is it not?

That's why I created the split DPad design, it works really well for the size while maintaining compatibility with the original part.

There is a lot of people, who still for whatever reason prefer the original DPad setup.

Basically, no plans to make a larger DPad for now, I really do think the new DPad design is great and worth trying (I even developed a version of it for pro controller and I prefer it to the original)

urbanman2004 · Friday at 10:05 PM

First off, where are labels to the buttons? Also, the controller looks bare. 3rd off, Retro Fighters have already provide GC controllers w/ a more modern feel that offer the same kind of functionality as the original the GC controllers and what this GC Ultimate Controller Kit project presents, and even though the controller is compatible w/ an N64 by using an adapter, I actually prefer to use a real N64 controller to play on an N64 console since using a GC controller feels weird and I prefer not to use the C-analog stick in place of C buttons.

NiceMitch · Friday at 11:13 PM

urbanman2004 said:
First off, where are labels to the buttons? Also, the controller looks bare. 3rd off, Retro Fighters have already provide GC controllers w/ a more modern feel that offer the same kind of functionality as the original the GC controllers and what this GC Ultimate Controller Kit project presents, and even though the controller is compatible w/ an N64 by using an adapter, I actually prefer to use a real N64 controller to play on an N64 console since using a GC controller feels weird and I prefer not to use the C-analog stick in place of C buttons.

Yes it's bare, intentionally so. It's a design preference, and meant to be customizable!

Retro Fighters GC stuff exists yes but this fits into an adjacent category
- Not original shape
- Triggers do not match original GameCube function (dual-stage press)
- No Bluetooth (need 1 dongle per controller)
- No Hall sticks (will drift)
- Doesn't have wired support for GameCube
- No Gyro
- No N64 support
- No notch/octagon gate calibration

If the controller isn't for you, and the Retro Fighters stuff suits you, that's cool with me

Marc_LFD · Friday at 11:28 PM

The DualShock has a split d-pad and it's great.

Nintendo Switch on the other hand doesn't have a d-pad, it has buttons for a d-pad. Well, the Switch Lite does have a d-pad, at least.

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If this was a Switch Lite OLED I'd totally buy it it looks great.

LightBeam · 2024-08-31T02:59:04+0100

Not something I'd buy because the layout is overrated and basically meant for Smash anyway, but more importantly because I know it'll be the same price as the Switch 2

raxadian · 2024-08-31T23:58:52+0100

The Nintendo Switch has the most breakable Nintendo controllers ever, then the Nintendo 64, and then the Gamecube.

All my Gamecube controllers still work so no thanks.

Marc_LFD · 2024-09-01T01:52:22+0100

raxadian said:
The Nintendo Switch has the most breakable Nintendo controllers ever, then the Nintendo 64, and then the Gamecube.

All my Gamecube controllers still work so no thanks.

The Switch Pro Controller? That thing is built like a tank.

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