What do you think about kids having technological stuff?

Trident Boy · Mar 22, 2008

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Urza · Mar 22, 2008

You are a troll.

JKR Firefox · Mar 22, 2008

Who are you and why do you continue to post?

JPH · Mar 22, 2008

Well, I don't know how old you are - but most kids today don't need cell phones.

I really don't need my cell phone very much, unless I'm out at one of my friends house or at the mall and need a ride home.

Many parents say that kids don't need a cell phone until he or she is old enough to drive, and I think that's true.

What are you going to use a cellphone for at eleven or twelve years old? Probably nothing but texting girls and playing games.

Sure, I think kids should have a video game system such as a Gameboy Advance or Nintendo DS - and the parents should let the kid know how fortunate they are to have one and that they need to take care of it. And hell, it's good for a kid too - they get a Gameboy and really love it. But one day, they accidentally leave on a bench at the park, and someone snatches it up and they never see it again.

They know that they should take better care of there things and keep an eye on them.

Computers may be pushing it, unless you have an internet browsing filter (which aren't totally reliable all the time). They could possibly form an addiction (like me!) to staying on it all the time...and that is unhealthy.

That's my two cents.

JKR Firefox · Mar 22, 2008

JPH said:
Well, I don't know how old you are - but most kids today don't need cell phones.

I really don't need my cell phone very much, unless I'm out at one of my friends house or at the mall and need a ride home.

Many parents say that kids don't need a cell phone until he or she is old enough to drive, and I think that's true.

What are you going to use a cellphone for at eleven or twelve years old? Probably nothing but texting girls and playing games.

Sure, I think kids should have a video game system such as a Gameboy Advance or Nintendo DS - and the parents should let the kid know how fortunate they are to have one and that they need to take care of it. And hell, it's good for a kid too - they get a Gameboy and really love it. But one day, they accidentally leave on a bench at the park, and someone snatches it up and they never see it again.

They know that they should take better care of there things and keep an eye on them.

Computers may be pushing it, unless you have an internet browsing filter (which aren't totally reliable all the time). They could possibly form an addiction (like me!) to staying on it all the time...and that is unhealthy.

That's my two cents.

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notnarb · Mar 22, 2008

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asuri · Mar 22, 2008

parents are protective well (money>you) jk but your mom just thinks that you aren't ready cause she doesn't want you going through losing things and she having to pay for it or for texting bills. like the wii i practically died begging for it but then my parents enjoyed wii sports so much.. they were worried i would not do homework but play. your case they could be worried about a lot of things. everybody thinks their parent is protective, when you reach adult hood and have a family you will know.

Pulka · Mar 22, 2008

If the kids buy their own stuffs.
I don't think that kids shoud get a thing a week.

wiki · Mar 22, 2008

You're nine years old, stop calling yourself a preteen. Why are you so desperate to look older? Being unable to accept that you're a kid makes you look immature. Maturity has nothing to do with age.

redact · Mar 22, 2008

trident boy isn't a kid, see the spoiler for a pic of him in RL

Ace Gunman · Mar 22, 2008

Guys, leave the kid alone, this is a legitimate topic for him; why when I was his age I was wondering the very same thing. Stop with the forum elitism.

To answer your question youngling, I don't believe kids should have access to "high technology" such as cell phones or laptops. Video games are a different story, and one I obviously don't need to get into this being a video game-based forum. When it comes to cellphones and such, I've seen grown men become so addicted that I've wanted to beat them and smash their phones.

"So there's this guy... hold on I gotta' check my texts... no, nothing. Anyway this guy is... oh wait, is that a text? No? Oh, OK, going on. So this guy is about... oh a text hold on I have to reply to this immediately before the world explodes because, you know, not answering immediately means certain death. So, where was I? Something about... oh yes, this guy was... oh man, I have to text someone, one second..." etc.

It's immensely annoying and I've never understood why anyone would want to be annoyed by people 24/7 like that. Adults, however, have some restraint. Kids would likely be $400 in cell phone debt; not knowing the economics of the charges and such.

As for laptops, and computers in general, when it comes to kids I think it's an awful idea. Have you seen some of the whackos around the internet? They've been looking at porn and frequenting 4chan since they were 10 years old and now many of them have the most warped view on life I've ever seen. So no, I don't think tech and kids should be mixed.

hankchill · Mar 22, 2008

I think your mom is right.

If you want to have something luxurious (not that a cell phone is really, but it definitely can be), I say you buy it yourself. Earn some money (get a paper route or something) and get a Pay-as-you-go plan. This way your parents won't get any extra debt incurred on them, and you get what you want.

When I was young, I had to buy everything myself. My parents had taught me that if I wanted something, I needed to earn it through hard work, and then I can reward myself with the money earned. You should do the same.

The *only* time I ever asked my mother for money was when the PS2's first came out, and I was living at home (with no job). I had a friend who had a PS2 and a Gamecube, and he wanted to sell the PS2 but EB would only give him $50 for it, so he gave it to me for the $50 instead. I asked my mom for the $50 very shyly, since I never asked for money... turns out she owed it to me for weekends I worked for her business

But back on topic, essentially, if you want something, work hard for it and get it yourself

Sinkhead · Mar 22, 2008

What hankchill said.

GH0ST · Mar 22, 2008

What a difficult question.

Ace i agree with the first part i was wondering also when i was a kid ... Cellphone is definitively just an harassement for me ....

For the rest we must teach kids the right way since technology is everythere in our world... our last and fool hope ... “It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity.” “The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination.” ( Einstein ) ( also Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world from the same Albert Einstein.)

My son had a nintendo DS but no Wii no Xbox no PS3 ... He plays and learn from/with computers and we build 1 together, a "kid computer", long ago but he don't surf the web alone ... he read books alone now ... he watch TV less then 1 hour a week he dislike violence so far and he is currently running in the garden with his friends ... and the birds... and the dogs ... balance is not easy ... leaving the kids alone make them wackos for sure ... i learn from them also... Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow ( Einstein again). The important thing is not to stop questioning. i'm a kid in my mind ... Live as if your were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever -Gandhi - this time... Walter Isaacson explains that studying Einstein can be worthwhile [because] it helps us remain in touch with that childlike capacity for wonder... i fall in technology when i was a little kid...

but Nature is the most important thing for me... and for you ... AND TRUST YOUR MOTHER she loves you and she is right ;-)

Why should you sweaty ourselves to death to benefit the Lord of Metropolis?
Who keeps the machines going ?
Who are the slaves of the machines ?
Let the machines stop.
Destroy the machines.
—Fritz Lang and Thea von Harbou, Metropolis (film,1926),translator unknown(1926)

When all is said and done, the weather and love are the two elements about which one can never be sure.
Alice Hoffman, ‘Here on Earth’

Man’s heart away from nature becomes hard.

~Standing Bear

" Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. "
--- Feynman, Address to the National Science Teachers' Association

There is a pleasure in the pathless woods,
There is a rapture on the lonely shore,
There is society, where none intrudes,
By the deep sea, and music in its roar:
I love not man the less, but Nature more.
~George Gordon, Lord Byron, Childe Harold’s Pilgrimage

And sorry for all the quotes ... i'm still looking for the definitive one ... Be the change you wish to see in the world (Gandhi) ;-)

Albert Einstein: "I believe that Gandhi's views were the most enlightened of all the political men of our time. We should strive to do things in his spirit: not to use violence for fighting for our cause, but by non-participation of anything you believe is evil."

Alec Baldwin, Heaven's Prisoners: "What a smart-ass!"

A funny one :
Albert Einstein:
Whether the chicken crossed the road or the road crossed the
chicken depends upon your frame of reference.

A definitive one:
Fall seven times, stand up eight.
Japanese Proverb...

The first quarter - century of your life was doubtless lived under the cloud of
being too young for things, while the last quarter-century would normally
be shadowed by the still darker cloud of being too old for them;
and between those two clouds, what small and narrow sunlight illumines
a human lifetime !
James Hilton, Lost Horizon(1933)

''Quotes are for dummies''

Bob Evil · Mar 22, 2008

Giving a child a cellphone is a tricky area ... and yes, you are still a child ... a minor ... as there are pros and cons :

Good for emergencies ... but the child could just waste the money with random calls & texts.

May get stole/lost/broken/etc as children are notoriously unlucky like that ... but will alleviate some social pressures, as kids have to have what their friends have, or they are ostracized.

But, in my opinion, as a father is, that no child under the age of at least 13 needs a cellphone, as where will you be that does not have adult supervision? No child of your age should be somewhere where a responsible adult is more than a shout away.

A comment on Ace Gunman's comment : Yes, the internet has broken many children. The damage that has been done to many young minds by it is wide-spread. The parents need to be held accountable for allowing unrestricted access.

Quotes :

The theory of space-time was made possible by the invention of graph paper. - Jacques Vallee

Every man on the internet is a man. Every woman on the internet is a man. Every child on the internet is a federal agent. - Anonymous

Aww, damn! No-one told me there'd be stairs! - Stephen Hawking

dakeyras · Mar 22, 2008

hankchill said:
But back on topic, essentially, if you want something, work hard for it and get it yourself

[oldfart]
Back in my youth I did not even think of asking my parents for something instead of saving up for it myself.
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Psyfira · Mar 22, 2008

Little kids under 16 really don't need cellphones; you see your friends at school every single day, and probably don't travel further than a few blocks from their house outside of school because you can't afford the bus fare. The only time they'll be useful is for emergencies / parents checking up on where you are.

Think about what you will actually use it for; if playing games and letting the world know how crap your taste in music really is by playing loudspeaker MP3 on a double decker bus is high on the list then no, you really don't need one. If you look in the shop and can't bear the thought of owning one of the cheapest handsets then no, you don't need one either.

I got my first phone for my 16th birthday. It was pay-as-you-go, so I paid the credit bills myself. I couldn't take it to school until 6th form, so it only got used to arrange meeting friends at cinemas and stuff like that, which didn't happen often. Used the Motorola Brick until the battery died 4 years later. That phone was an awesome first phone, low risk of theft because compared to other phones at the time no-one in their right mind would want to steal it and robust as hell; I'd be happy chucking it out of a window and still expect it to work afterwards

Hank is right about having a pay-as-you-go and paying for credit yourself. I wouldn't want to pay someone else's phone bill when there is no way of monitoring or capping how much you're spending. Say you use up all your credit, but are too afraid of your mum having a go at you to ask for more. Completely defeats the point of having the phone in the first place. And if your Mum gives you enough allowance to support paying a phone bill yourself then she needs her head examined. (no offence).

So in conclusion; she's right, you don't need one yet.

legendofphil · Mar 22, 2008

Phone - No need, I bought my first mobile at the age of 14, only one of my friends had one back then so pointless.
Handheld console - Yes, I bought a DS for my Nephew (his second, my sister stood on the first and broke it) for Christmas and he is five.
Computer - No, there is no reason for you to have a computer in your room, if you don't have them ask for a separate user profile. You would probably need to build a trust before you get one. Unless its not connected to the Internet.

Lyuse · Mar 22, 2008

I never asked my mother for anything I had a newspaper delivery job and got enough money of that to buy some games

arctic_flame · Mar 22, 2008

I had a pay as you go nokia shit100 when I was 13. I didn't use it more than once a month. Give us a good reason why you need it.

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