GCN Mario Kart Double Dash not working

DuduMil · Jan 5, 2023

So, today I bought Mario Kart Double Dash for the GCN, I put the disk on the GameCube, it takes a time to read, and gives me an error, I tried on my Wii, same thing...

The disk doesn't have a single scratch, what could be the problem?

Lostbhoy · Jan 5, 2023

Dirty centre of disc? Give the 'hole' a good clean with some alcamahol. Vodka will do.... Seriously!

I was gonna suggest the laser but if its happening on wii also then not that. Either a dirty disc or dare i say it... Copy/fake disc??

SylverReZ · Jan 5, 2023

I would re-adjust the laser also just because it does help it read the discs better. Or better yet, install a RPI Pico with PicoBoot to boot games off an SD card.

DuduMil · Jan 5, 2023

Well, the disk seems legit, even the error screen has the mario kart double dash style

I cleaned the whole disk, and the same thing happens, I spent 35€ on this thing... I can return it, but I don't wan't to haha

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Here's a picture of the disk and the case, so you can take your conclusions

Lostbhoy · Jan 5, 2023

Can you take a better picture of the disc? Looks like damage in the centre circle. And since I don't know where you live... Def right region lol

impeeza · Jan 5, 2023

remember on the GC y Wii the center of disk have the signature as a barcode.

DuduMil · Jan 5, 2023

Yeah, it's damaged, take a look

I live in Portugal.

CoolMe · Jan 5, 2023

Well, you should rip the game with CleanRip on the Wii, it will error out somewhere during the process if it's corrupted/ damaged. If that's the case, there's nothing you can do other than asking for a refund, or throwing it in the trash (if the physical damage is unrepairable).

Lostbhoy · Jan 5, 2023

Ah sorry man. I would at least ask the store for a replacement as they clearly didn't test it before sale.

DuduMil · Jan 5, 2023

Lostbhoy said:
Ah sorry man. I would at least ask the store for a replacement as they clearly didn't test it before sale.

I can ask for a refund, they told me I can ask for a refund in 2 days, I'll go there on saturday, they usually don't test the GameCube games, maybe they don't have one, I don't know.
I'm actually lucky, because I also bought another GameCube game, but at least, it works.

Today I spent 50€ on games, and this one was the more expensive of them...

Lostbhoy · Jan 5, 2023

I hate when stuff like that happens and it's usually the one your more excited for!

Again if they got another copy check it out, I'm sure they'd rather keep your cash and write that one off by whatever means they have.

DuduMil · Jan 5, 2023

CoolMe said:
Well, you should rip the game with CleanRip on the Wii, it will error out somewhere during the process if it's corrupted/ damaged. If that's the case, there's nothing you can do other than asking for a refund, or throwing it in the trash (if the physical damage is unrepairable).

It gave an error...

N7Kopper · Jan 13, 2023

CoolMe said:
Well, you should rip the game with CleanRip on the Wii, it will error out somewhere during the process if it's corrupted/ damaged. If that's the case, there's nothing you can do other than asking for a refund, or throwing it in the trash (if the physical damage is unrepairable).

If you can see the damage on the label side, it's almost certainly a damaged data layer. If it doesn't boot, it's a broken disc. Given that it successfully starts up before throwing Double Dash's own error screen, it's certainly a wrecked data layer. On the plus side, if you can use CleanRip, you can use Nintendont. (Which I would suggest for playing Double Dash even with a retail disc, because LAN support)

DuduMil · Jan 13, 2023

Hi!
I don't have the disk anymore, I returned it.

KleinesSinchen · Jan 13, 2023

Dudumendes said:
Hi!
I don't have the disk anymore, I returned it.

Probably the best.
Sadly I missed this thread. It would have been nice to have a really high resolution and sharp picture of both sides (taking pictures of optical discs is a pain!)

N7Kopper said:
If you can see the damage on the label side, it's almost certainly a damaged data layer. If it doesn't boot, it's a broken disc. Given that it successfully starts up before throwing Double Dash's own error screen, it's certainly a wrecked data layer. On the plus side, if you can use CleanRip, you can use Nintendont. (Which I would suggest for playing Double Dash even with a retail disc, because LAN support)

That's for CDs. GC/Wii discs are DVDs which means the data layer is right in the middle. (Yes, I know that they are not DVDs according to the standard and sometimes are called Nintendo Optical Discs, but for the sake of simplicity…)
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In some cases it is impossible to see any damage on a disc… and it still won't work – or the other way round: it looks hopeless and the drive doesn't see the slightest issues.
While that crack in the center isn't nice, I doubt this is problematic as such (no data there). Such cracks could eventually lead to oxygen or even fungi finding their way in, which will lead to premature failure.

Ultimately only a full read cycle can verify the data integrity of a disc – not the human eye. I know of no method to judge the quality of a GC/Wii DVD (like measuring Pi/Po errors for standard DVDs which some PC drives can). Visible scratches can – to some extent be treated with resurfacing methods (replacing few fatal scratches with millions(!) of tiny ones). Invisible damage → I would say: Exitus.

DuduMil · Jan 14, 2023

I decided to do something I didn't do for a long time, I burned an .iso of the game to a disk, and It works just fine!

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