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What's the difference between the official Network Adaptor and the chinese's? Do the latter only provide a HDD/SSD/SSHD connection and no ethernet while the former provides both?

What's the official/chinese Network Adaptors maximum supported file size, 1 TB for the former and 2 TB for the latter?

Does the official Network Adaptor only support IDE HDDs/SSDs/SSHDs and the chinese's only support SATA's?

If replacing the official Network Adaptor's IDE adapter for a SATA one, will it make it support SATA HDDs/SSDS/SSHDs, and if so, would it support up to 2 TB SATA HDDs/SSDs/SSHDs like the chinese Network Adaptors?

Do all SATA adapters work on the official Network Adaptor?

Do official and chinese Network Adaptors support all IDE/SATA HDDs/SSDs/SSHDs?

How can I add PS1 and PS2 games to the PS2's HDD/SSD/SSHD? Do I always need to take it from the Network Adaptor and connect it to the PC or may it be done without taking it? If the latter, wouldn't it be too slow?

How can I make a HDD/SSD/SSHD work (according to what I read, in spite of being internal, the drive would have to stay outside the console) on the SCPH-70004 (PS2 Slim) model? Do I need to hardmod it?
 
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Sorry, I didn't realise you weren't using a router, normally a domestic router handles things like assigning IP addresses via DHCP.

Either way, it's still down to OPL to handle networking AFAIK. So if you're wondering why OPL requires a manual (static) IP address, it's down to OPL.

I am using a router when connecting the PS2 to the PC, only when connecting the PS3 to the PC I'm not. If I keep direclty connecting the PS3 to the PC using an ethernet cable, will it be faster than if connecting the PS3 to the PC via router?
 
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I am using a router when connecting the PS2 to the PC, only when connecting the PS3 to the PC I'm not. If I directly connect the PS3 to PC will it be faster?

If you have a gigabit Ethernet router, doubtful, I just said that as I thought that's what you're doing.

As I said, IP assignments are normally negotiated with the router via DHCP, which is why the PS3, etc. automatically gets one (unless you manually assign a static IP address).
 

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If you have a gigabit Ethernet router, doubtful, I just said that as I thought that's what you're doing.

As I said, IP assignments are normally negotiated with the router via DHCP, which is why the PS3, etc. automatically gets one (unless you manually assign a static IP address).

I do have a gigabit router.

I set a manual IP address on XMB and on Windows' Control Panel.
 
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What was it about the way the PS2/OPL handles IP addresses you want to know?

I must set a new IP address on the PC to be able to connect to the PS2 when both are connected to the router. Is it possible to connect to it using FileZilla Client without having to change the PC's IP address?
 
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I just looked, first it turns out I was wrong and OPL does support DHCP, I thought it didn’t based on your posts.

Second have you checked the network settings?
https://www.ps2-home.com/forum/app.php/page/opl_recommended_settings

It's annoying having to set an IP address on the PC when wanting to connect it to the PS2.

Also, there are some Windows' Control Panel's network settings that have to be changed every time to connect the PC to the PS2 so it's annoying having to do that all the time as well as put the settings the way they were when no longer wanting to connect the PC to the PS2, too.
 
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The tutorial I followed stated to set a PS2 IP address on OPL to connect the PC to the PS2.

Do you think it's because they wanted us to add PS2's FTP server to Windows' File Explorer or FileZilla (for instance) to be easier to connect the PC to the PS2 because that way OPL's PS2's IP address wouldn't change after the PS2 was restarted because it was static and so one wouldn't have to type different OPL's PS2's IP addresses on Windows' File Explorer or FileZilla (for instance) when he/she wanted to connect the PC to the PS2 because if OPL's PS2's IP address was dynamic it might change when restarting the PS2?

Regardless of OPL having a dynamic IP address or not, there are some Windows' Control Panel's Network settings that have to be changed every time to connect the PC to the PS2 so it's annoying having to do that all the time as well as put the settings the way they were when no longer wanting to connect the PC to the PS2.

Also, regardless of OPL having a dynamic IP address or not, it was also annoying having to set an IP address on the PC to connect the PC to the PS2. Isn't it possible to use the PC's current dynamic IP address instead of setting a manual IP address every time I want to connect the PC to the PS2?

EDIT: I just recorded when transferring files from the PC to the PS2 and vice-versa via FTP, I had to set an IP address in wLe's File Browser's PS2Net's network settings (as well as setting a PC IP address and changing some Windows' Control Panel's Network settings like I told before when using OPL), save and afterwards run PS2Net. PS2Net had a default IP address that could be changed. Does that mean PSNet has a static IP address? Can PSNet's IP address be considered PS2's IP address? If it can, how can OPL set a dynamic IP address and a different IP address instead of being forced to use the PS2's? If OPL doesn't need PS2Net it means it can be run without having set an IP address on PS2Net.

What settings are you changing on the PC? Is it just the IP address? If so what was the IP address of the PC before the change and the static IP address you're assigning?

I just tested with ULE and my computer and the only setting I had to change was in Filezilla to enable insecure FTP.

PC IP: 192.168.0.45
PS2 IP: 192.168.0.10
 

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What settings are you changing on the PC? Is it just the IP address? If so what was the IP address of the PC before the change and the static IP address you're assigning?

I just tested with ULE and my computer and the only setting I had to change was in Filezilla to enable insecure FTP.

PC IP: 192.168.0.45
PS2 IP: 192.168.0.10

These settings (from 2:52 to 3:24) after (or before). Didn't you have to follow that step?

Before changing, I don't know what my PC's IP address is since the "Obtain an IP address automatically" is selected, but I set it to "192.168.0.123" and on OPL it's set to "192.168.0.10".

Also, is it really necessary to set an IP address on both PC and OPL (at least on the former) every time one wants to upload files or use OPL?
 
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These settings (from 2:52 to 3:24) after (or before). Didn't you have to do that step?

Before changing, I don't know what my PC's IP address is since the "Obtain an IP address automatically" is selected, but I set it to "192.168.0.123" and on OPL it's set to "192.168.0.10".

Also, is it really necessary to set an IP address on both PC and OPL (at least on the former) every time one wants to transfer files or use OPL?
No, you can leave the PC on auto (DHCP), it doesn't matter
And it only needs to be done once. As long as nothing on the network is using the same IP you should never have to change it again (you can set a static IP in your router that way it's reserved so nothing else will use it - or figure out what IP range your router's DHCP uses, often it's like x.x.x.100-x.x.x.250 so you can set the static IP on the PS2 outside that range to make sure nothing else will use it)
 

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No, you can leave the PC on auto (DHCP), it doesn't matter
And it only needs to be done once. As long as nothing on the network is using the same IP you should never have to change it again (you can set a static IP in your router that way it's reserved so nothing else will use it - or figure out what IP range your router's DHCP uses, often it's like x.x.x.100-x.x.x.250 so you can set the static IP on the PS2 outside that range to make sure nothing else will use it)

But wouldn't I need to change a file on the PS2 since it's set to use the PC's IP address I change to?

I don't know how to do that on the router.

Also, you didn't have to change any Windows' Control Panel network settings like the YouTube video shows?
 
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But to do that wouldn't I need to change a file on the PS2 since it's set to use the PC's IP address I change to?

I don't know how to do that on the router. Would I have to do it for the former to work?

Also, you didn't have to change any Windows' Control Panel network settings like the YouTube video shows?

Ok I just want to confirm, based on the guide, you're doing the SMB share from the PC to a PS2 slim? Or is it just FTP?

Like in my post, for FTP all I had to do was change the FTP connection to insecure in Filezilla. Nothing else was changed.

Changing the DHCP range will depend on the router, normally it's in the LAN settings. You don't have to do it but it reduces the chances of an IP conflict.

If nothing uses 192.168.0.10, then you don't need to change any IP settings on the PS2 and the PC can stay on DHCP.

It's only with SMB that you need to check other settings, but even then there are other more advisable methods as OPL only supports an older, vulnerable version of SMB e.g. RPi, old computer, old NAS, Virtual Machine, etc.

The reason to have a static IP for the desktop with SMB is to because the PS2 connects to the PC.
 

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Ok I just want to confirm, based on the guide, you're doing the SMB share from the PC to a PS2 slim? Or is it just FTP?

Like in my post, for FTP all I had to do was change the FTP connection to insecure in Filezilla. Nothing else was changed.

Changing the DHCP range will depend on the router, normally it's in the LAN settings. You don't have to do it but it reduces the chances of an IP conflict.

If nothing uses 192.168.0.10, then you don't need to change any IP settings on the PS2 and the PC can stay on DHCP.

It's only with SMB that you need to check other settings, but even then there are other more advisable methods as OPL only supports an older, vulnerable version of SMB e.g. RPi, old computer, old NAS, Virtual Machine, etc.

The reason to have a static IP for the desktop with SMB is to because the PS2 connects to the PC.

Both. I need to set an IP address on the PC to upload files via FTP and to use OPL.

So, after all, it is needed to change the PC's IP address on OPL via SMB.

What about having to change Windows' Control Panel's network settings to use FTP and OPL via SMB? Do you need to do it like me?
 
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But to do that wouldn't I need to change a file on the PS2 since it's set to use the PC's IP address I change to?

I don't know how to do that on the router. Would I have to do it for the former to work?

Also, you didn't have to change any Windows' Control Panel network settings like the YouTube video shows?
No? The PC connects to the PS2, not the other way around.
 

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No? The PC connects to the PS2, not the other way around.

Then why are we recommended to change those Windows' Control Panel's network settings by many tutorials, and if we don't, then it doesn't work? Also, we are recommended to set an IP address on the PC to upload files to the PS2 and to use OPL via SMB.
 
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Then why are we recommended to change those Windows' Control Panel's network settings by many tutorials and if we don't then it doesn't work? Also, we are recommended to set an IP address on the PC to transfer files via FTP to the PS2 and to use OPL via SMB.
For SMB, the PS2 connects to the PC so it's easiest to set a static IP.
You can set that in the router though. It's preferrable over setting it on the PC.
 

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For SMB, the PS2 connects to the PC so it's easiest to set a static IP.
You can set that in the router though. It's preferrable over setting it on the PC.

I don't know how to do that, so is it possible to not set a static IP on the PC for SMB?

So, it's not needed to set an IP address on the PC for FTP?
 
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I don't know how to so is it possible to not set a static IP on the PC for SMB?

So, for FTP it's not needed to set an IP address on the PC?
If you set it on the PC it applies to all networks you connect to (if it's a desktop you just leave at home that matters less) and you have to manually change it back to auto when you connect to another network, depends on your router but usually the router page is at 10.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 and there should be a page called something with DHCP or DNS where you can add a static IP.

Shouldn't be. If you're using FileZilla to connect to the PS2 that means the PS2 is the host.
 

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