The situation in Ukraine...

[djpannda]

Connections everywhere.

Cool random Photoshop Kremlin photoshop Consipircy propaganda (from a User that has never posted or even looks at any threads outside this single one
I really hope @mods would not allow access to Word New Thread for Brand New members Trolls .

 

[subcon959]

volunteer militia detaining Looters and saboteurs ( more looters as REAL saboteurs are held as POWS)

Damn, remind me to never loot in Ukraine.

 

[djpannda]

Damn, remind me to never loot in Ukraine.

well to be fair, what your seeing depending on where exactly this is happening and when.. you have to remember Ukraine is in War with a Country 20x its size .
as if this happened in a city that is Currectly under direct Russian attack local Militia are patrolling the streets and tied him up for local police. as Militia will not arrest civilians and are not local peacekeepers.
Under Martial law, looters are lucky not to be shot at, and tieing looters while waiting for police is a great deterrence for other petty crimes.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Yes, they already overthrew a Russian puppet government once before.

A puppet government that stole Russian gas for years and flirted with the EU regarding a single market, prompting Russia to give them even more favorable deals. A real puppet government.
You are either uninformed or lying.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

Damn, remind me to never loot in Ukraine.

I see the Twitter poster is probably a Manc, he must have seen stag dos end like this, all that's missing is the blow up doll

 

[Xzi]

After all this time and effort, the Russian invasion is only moving backwards: U.S. says Ukraine has pushed back Russian forces outside Kyiv

Their losses are also quickly reaching record levels: Russian losses in Ukraine exceed Soviet losses in Afghanistan

And all Putin's boomer nostalgia tantrum has managed to achieve is to push more countries into the arms of NATO: Finland makes massive shift towards NATO, majority now support joining

Somebody give this dictator the geopolitical Darwin award already.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

I admire the more traditional values of Muslim communities

So what, exactly?

Swap out Aisha and Hussein for the Catholic Mary and John.

Abusing your spouse is explicitly forbidden by Catholicism.

I admire the more traditional values of Muslim communities. Swap out Aisha and Hussein for the Catholic Mary and John.
The only racism present in this thread is Russophobia.

Nonsense, Putin stooge. Putin doesn't represent all Russia, and you're a liar if you claim otherwise.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

So what, exactly?

In most things (except cousin marriage). The comma seems to be in the wrong place btw.

Abusing your spouse is explicitly forbidden by Catholicism.

So it doesn´t happen? I`m not gonna go into religious doctrine. That was not the point. The point is that Aisha/Mary chose to escalate in my story. Ukraine is provoking Russia, trying to get Western countries into a conflict with Russia. The US encouraged them. There was a short moment in which the Ukrainian government was actually afraid of war but the barking continued soon after.

Nonsense, Putin stooge. Putin doesn't represent all Russia, and you're a liar if you claim otherwise.

That wasn´t my claim. Putin may be very popular (though the "special operation" is certainly unpopular, especially in its scope) but I was talking about racism. It is rooted in Russian identity and history as a Eurasian nation. Part of Russians resent their Asian ties. Kind of how some mixed-raced people in the US resent part of their heritage. The Ukrainians are perhaps the least Asian Russians. The Neo Nazis in Russia and Ukraine share this sentiment. In Russia, they are kept at bay by the government, in Ukraine their were given free reign. I´ve said it before: The post-coup prime minister (who was chosen by Victoria Nuland to be fit for office in the leaked phone conversation) of Ukraine called Russians sub-humans in 2014 on a governmnt website. A user (which I have put on the ignore list) has used the same term (he said "underhumans") in this very thread without receiving a warning. I have a feeling we couldn´t call other nations subhumans. In light of the Russian attack, facebook has officially allowed special rules to the detriment of Russians and Russians only. Therefore it is a continuation of a modern European feeling of racial superiority.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Therefore it is a continuation of a modern European feeling of racial superiority.

No it's not. It's the understandable anger and frustration of a ukrainian against a population which is either apathetic or complicit to a genocide.

Ridiculous claims of "modern european feelings of racial superiority".

 

[subcon959]

It's the understandable anger and frustration of a ukrainian against a population which is either apathetic or complicit to a genocide.

Hang on a minute, it's one thing if you disagree that it exists but if you agree then you can't justify racism like that.

Also, it's very clear that a whole lot of Russian people are completely against Putin's actions and it's rather unfair to call them either complicit or apathetic.

Edit: Just to add, whoever originally brought up racism clearly doesn't know the difference between ethnicity and race.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Edit: Just to add, whoever originally brought up racism clearly doesn't know the difference between ethnicity and race.

Oh oh, don´t be a Whoopie Goldberg. She was publicly admonished (and temporarily sent on "vacation") for saying on TV that the holocaust was not about racism because it was whites killing whites. We don´t use the word "ethnicitism". The difference lies in the zoom level: you, your family, your extended family, your ethnicity, your race, your species (then I guess mammals, vertebrates, DNA life forms).

Sometimes ethnicity is used interchangably with either nation or race. Race does not have a defined number. You could be very broad (e.g. 3 races) or very specific, basically meaning ethnicity.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...omen-refugees-they-are-men-must-go-back-fight

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/

I'm confused here. Do we boycott Ukraine since they deny trans people's rights and tell them they are men and must fight, as well as having a neo nazi battalion in their army, or do we now support this because Russians are clearly the bigger evil in this situation? What's do we do man's!? I must know who to stand up for in my basement!

 

[djpannda]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...omen-refugees-they-are-men-must-go-back-fight

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/

I'm confused here. Do we boycott Ukraine since they deny trans people's rights and tell them they are men and must fight, as well as having a neo nazi battalion in their army, or do we now support this because Russians are clearly the bigger evil in this situation? What's do we do man's!? I must know who to stand up for in my basement!

1.Depends on what is stated on their legal documents…. Unfortunately

2. funny Nazis never seem to bother you before…but it’s weird a lot of those Ukrainian “Nazi “ Facebook pages stoped updating around the same time Kremlin banned Facebook… WEIRD . But im Sure they have nothing to do with each other

 

[KingVamp]

I'm confused here. Do we boycott Ukraine since they deny trans people's rights and tell them they are men and must fight, as well as having a neo nazi battalion in their army, or do we now support this because Russians are clearly the bigger evil in this situation? What's do we do man's!? I must know who to stand up for in my basement!

I know you seem to have difficulty with putting ideas together properly, but you can quite simply condemn both.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

I know you seem to have difficulty with putting ideas together properly, but you can quite simply condemn both.

I know, and I have been, but I've still seen people defend Ukraine as if there's no evil in that country either. In my eyes, both Ukraine and Russia, yes that means Putin, are corrupt.

 

[subcon959]

I know you seem to have difficulty with putting ideas together properly, but you can quite simply condemn both.

I don't see a lot of people condemning both. I do see a lot more people ignoring their existence so they don't have to deal with it.

 

[subcon959]

Oh oh, don´t be a Whoopie Goldberg. She was publicly admonished (and temporarily sent on "vacation") for saying on TV that the holocaust was not about racism because it was whites killing whites. We don´t use the word "ethnicitism". The difference lies in the zoom level: you, your family, your extended family, your ethnicity, your race, your species (then I guess mammals, vertebrates, DNA life forms).

Sometimes ethnicity is used interchangably with either nation or race. Race does not have a defined number. You could be very broad (e.g. 3 races) or very specific, basically meaning ethnicity.

I'm not aware of whatever happened with Whoopi Goldberg but I think xenophobia and racism do tend to get conflated. I've only ever heard the holocaust referred to as anti-semitic not racist.

Let me ask you this though, can you think of anything that a black person could call a white person that would come even close to the white person calling the black person the n-word, even though it would technically still be called racism?

 

[djpannda]

I don't see a lot of people condemning both. I do see a lot more people ignoring their existence so they don't have to deal with it.

yea I understand but your talking about made up excuse to Justify the WAR as AZOV has less then NAZI 900 member in 2014.. After Russia attacked in 2014 the membership GREW multiple times by normal Ukrianains not because they were NAZI but
because it was the local Militia that was fighting Russia...

Both Russian (RNU was 100,000 members at one point)
and the US ( with KKK and Ayrian brotherhood alone as 20,000 member)
has way more "NAZIs"
Thats like claiming Mexican needs to take over the USA because the US miliarty has 1,000 Neo nazi in it (true story)
The U.S. Military Has a White Supremacy Problem

 

[subcon959]

yea I understand but your talking about made up excuse to Justify the WAR as AZOV has less then NAZI 900 member in 2014.. After Russia attacked in 2014 the membership GREW multiple times by normal Ukrianains not because they were NAZI but
because it was the local Militia that was fighting Russia...

Both Russian (RNU was 100,000 members at one point)
and the US ( with KKK and Ayrian brotherhood alone as 20,000 member)
has way more "NAZIs"
Thats like claiming Mexican needs to take over the USA because the US miliarty has 1,000 Neo nazi in it (true story)
The U.S. Military Has a White Supremacy Problem

I'm not talking about the people trying to use it to justify the war, that's obviously ridiculous. I'm just talking about the average person that won't even acknowledge it because they are worried that it might muddy the water.

 

[djpannda]

I'm not talking about the people trying to use it to justify the war, that's obviously ridiculous. I'm just talking about the average person that won't even acknowledge it because they are worried that it might muddy the water.

Yes its the sucky situation but thats the exactly reason Russia and (Kremlin paid bots) want to push as the notion.. , people claim this is a unjust War , the Far Right and Kremlins scream "if your against Russia, then YOUR FOR NAZI"
but we need to just see actually NUMBERS to make sense of it as 900 "nazi" in a sovereign NATION of 42 million is a better ratio then the USA or RUSSIA ( HECK MOST EU countries)