The situation in Ukraine...

[Xzi]

CLUELESS yet run your mouth like you know.

Says the dude that talks about geopolitics like it's a D&D campaign. There's no good time or place for looney conspiracy theories, and that goes triple for a serious discussion about Russian imperialism. The lives of men, women, and children are on the line, your unhealthy moronic obsession with Hillary Clinton or whoever can take a back seat for a while.

There's several of these guys here who are essentially living embodiments of the media as I'm sure you're already aware. It's amusing, but also scary in a way. Don't let them get you running in circles.

I could say the same of you and Donnie-Burger in relation to RT. You're fucking defending imperialism, and if you're willing to defend it in this scenario, you'd be willing to defend it in any scenario. Excuse the turn of phrase, but wake up sheeple.

 

[Donnie-Burger]

Says the dude that talks about geopolitics like it's a D&D campaign. There's no good time or place for looney conspiracy theories, and that goes triple for a serious discussion about Russian imperialism. The lives of men, women, and children are on the line, your unhealthy moronic obsession with Hillary Clinton or whoever can take a back seat for a while.


I could say the same of you and Donnie-Burger in relation to RT. You're fucking defending imperialism, and if you're willing to defend it in this scenario, you'd be willing to defend it in any scenario. Excuse the turn of phrase, but wake up sheeple.

 

[Xzi]

I'll take this to mean that every one of your posts in this thread were typed out while drunk. It would explain so very much.

 

[Donnie-Burger]

I'll take this to mean that every one of your posts in this thread were typed out while drunk. It would explain so very much.

Everything that Biden tries to do completely fails. It seems like he's setup or something? Now look what's happening in the Ukraine. The entire narrative is falling apart. Actually the head of Selinskie's servant of the people parliamentary faction in Ukraine. Blames the foreign media for spreading the fake news and he calls it the fake news about a Russian invasion. Now think about that.

 

[Xzi]

Everything that Biden tries to do completely fails.

Except living in your head rent-free, apparently, because his role in this whole thing is negligible.

Now look what's happening in the Ukraine. The entire narrative is falling apart.

Putin claimed Russia was pulling back troops much earlier today, satellite images show they added about 7,000 more troops to the border instead. So you've simply gotten the wool pulled over your eyes by a different narrative.

The entire world is rooting for a peaceful solution, so nobody "loses" if Putin does decide to withdraw, but at the same time he has a colossal ego to satiate. Withdrawing now would look weak from a certain (stupid) point of view.

 

[Stepperer]

By that Logic MEXICO has claim to Texas, AZ, NV and CA.
and ENGLAND has claim to the whole Eastern seaboard

What's wrong with that logic, I cannot understand? Texas was claimed by USA by the right of force alone, and much more territory along with it. Russia claimed Ukraine to form USSR. So it's down to USA returns Texas or USA stays out of Russia's land affairs

 

[Stepperer]

satellite images show they added about 7,000 more troops to the border instead

Can we see this images? Or it is just "highly likely"?

 

[Xzi]

Can we see this images? Or it is just "highly likely"?

There are tons of static images from various outlets, no live feeds that I can find. Probably not something they'd let the general public see, as these are likely military satellites.

There are also reports that many of Ukraine's computer networks have been hacked, which is a likely indicator of more Russian aggression coming soon.

 

[tabzer]

The lives of men, women, and children are on the line

Thank you for your service.

Good working theories about the conspiracies that be are probably more valuable than the obvious commercial advertisements (dressed as "news"). How many more decades are people going to let the media gaslight them into buying wars--both domestic and foreign? What will people in the future call this "progressive" religion?

 

[pwjpssdfvqyuhweuxx]

just let them take over Ukraine already.

 

[Xzi]

Good working theories about the conspiracies that be are probably more valuable than the obvious commercial advertisements (dressed as "news"). How many more decades are people going to let the media gaslight them into buying wars--both domestic and foreign? What will people in the future call this "progressive" religion?

I don't know how badly you flunked geography, but "we," as in the US, are not going to be joining the war one way or another. And again, the media doesn't have the power to order over 120,000 Russian troops to the Ukrainian border, so pretending they're making a conflict up out of thin air suggests you just want to lie to yourself.

All politically right-leaning people seem to have this creepy obsession with Putin, to the point of fantasizing that he's somehow the perfect libertarian leader and not just another piece of shit oligarch that lied, cheated, stole, and murdered his way to the top. It's really quite baffling, especially when coupled with their attempts to simultaneously resurrect McCarthyism.

 

[tabzer]

I don't know how badly you flunked geography, but "we," as in the US, are not going to be joining the war one way or another.

You are saying that the geographical position of the US prevents it from participating in war overseas.

And again, the media doesn't have the power to order over 120,000 Russian troops to the Ukrainian border

I see you have failed to recognize the power of the media. The ironic part of it is that what you are saying is a symptom of being gaslit by the media.

All politically right-leaning people seem to have this creepy obsession with Putin, to the point of fantasizing that he's somehow the perfect libertarian leader and not just another piece of shit oligarch that lied, cheated, stole, and murdered his way to the top.

Relevance? Are you accusing me of being right-leaning because I think your country is a hypocritical joke?

 

[Xzi]

You are saying that the geographical position of the US prevents it from participating in war overseas.

That is not what I'm saying, I'm saying that we will choose not to get involved directly in a war against Russia. If they invade Ukraine, it's obvious who the bad guys are, and any/all sanctions against Russia will have full support.

I see you have failed to recognize the power of the media. The ironic part of it is that what you are saying is a symptom of being gaslit by the media.

Lmao, so they're just photoshopping every one of these satellite images, that right? Jesus, the mental gymnastics somebody who gets all their news from Facebook will do to avoid admitting they're wrong about anything.

Relevance? Are you accusing me of being right-leaning because I think your country is a hypocritical joke?

I know you're right-leaning, that's been well-established over multiple threads in this forum by now. If you're so ashamed of it, you could always...stop supporting authoritarism? Just a thought.

 

[Stepperer]

There are tons of static images from various outlets,

Like photoshop, for instance? )))

 

[Xzi]

Like photoshop, for instance? )))

Seriously, the Putin ball fondling is weird bro. The man himself never even denied amassing troops on the border, he's only lied about withdrawing.

For that matter, he's gone on TV and made blatant threats against not only Ukraine, but all NATO member nations. There's no possible way to spin the identity of the aggressor in this scenario, so just stop the pathetic attempts at it.

 

[tabzer]

That is not what I'm saying, I'm saying that we will not choose to get involved directly in a war against Russia. If they invade Ukraine, it's obvious who the bad guys are, and any/all sanctions against Russia will have full support.

You said it was an issue of geography. Now it's an issue of politics, and you are claiming that US soldiers and hardware will not get involved?

Lmao, so they're just photoshopping every one of these satellite images, that right? Jesus, the mental gymnastics somebody who gets all their news from Facebook will do to avoid admitting they're wrong about anything.

I don't know anything about satellite images. I'm saying they have successfully driven your attention to get enthusiastic war instead of fixing your own problems at home. Maybe the capitalist inside you is drooling at the prospects of another endless conflict to "support".

I know you're right-leaning, that's been well-established over multiple threads in this forum by now. If you're so ashamed of it, you could always...stop supporting authoritarism? Just a thought.

I'm actually pretty libertarian and somewhat left-leaning. I've argued against mandates and the authoritarian predilection of American politics as a whole.

I like what "right-winger" Russell Brand says.

Don't be an idiot and mistake him as a "source" like a lot of illiterate people here do. He's merely a commentator whose format is to present a source, comment, present a source, comment.



He also does one on the Ukraine situation, which is a little more illuminating than your interest in copulating with male genitalia.

 

[Stepperer]

so just stop the pathetic attempts at it.

I never made any pathetic attempts, mind you. Only reasonable ones. Maybe you should get off your high horse more often? Just a thought

 

[Xzi]

You said it was an issue of geography. Now it's an issue of politics, and you are claiming that US soldiers will not get involved?

Ukraine is our ally, but all we can do is provide arms support. A direct war with Russia is obviously to be avoided at all costs, because Putin is actually and truly insane. Dude would probably unleash a nuke or two, and we'd just have to hope they were duds to avoid total mutual annihilation.

I'm saying they have successfully driven your attention to get enthusiastic war instead of fixing your own problems at home. Maybe the capitalist inside you is drooling at the prospects of another endless conflict to "support".

Fuck no, I want a peaceful resolution to this. But everything you said certainly applies to Putin: he's looking for distractions from his problems ruling his serfs at home, and he thinks conflict will help Russia economically (hint: it won't).

 

[tabzer]

he thinks conflict will help Russia economically.

The US and Russia have a lot in common.

 

[Xzi]

The US and Russia have a lot in common.

Yep, only difference is that our oligarchs reside in the corporate world, while Putin has a much smaller roundtable of oligarchs in government. China has both types of oligarchs. All three nations also just so happen to be hyper-capitalist, so take that as you will.