Covid-19 vaccine

[Lacius]

What you said was out of context and a contortion of what was actually said in the report.

No it wasn't. They baselessly speculated that the vaccine caused a suicide. In the absence of evidence, that's no better than a ridiculous conspiracy theory.

Upon taking the vaccine, someone starts acting erratic. It's natural to have a suspicion of a connection, which as the article states, is all it is.

You can investigate a connection, but it's irrational to suspect a connection in the absence of evidence.

It even provides previous medical situations as a basis for why such a consideration is made.

It only provided baseless claims.

It's no one's argument that vaccines cause suicides.

The article suggests the vaccines may have caused a suicide, but as I've already said, this is unsubstantiated garbage.

 

[tabzer]

No it wasn't.

Yes it was.

You can investigate a connection, but it's irrational to suspect a connection in the absence of evidence.

Limited contextual and observational evidence of psychosis was the same evidence to support febrile delirium. The keyword is "suspected" and the word was selected intentionally. "Connection" also was selected intentionally as to not infer direct cause.

You are literally mucking about the English language to intentionally mudsling a study that you have no other options in debunking. Quit practicing "the science" as a religion and admit you don't know, instead of making statements of having contradicting evidence that you clearly have no intention of providing.

 

[djpannda]

I guess math scared off the other guy…weird most of them stay quiet when presented with actual facts…
I still waiting for him to provide a list of 60 random name

Chilean deaths (updated 18+ Only)
12.4 million /60(unproven) = 0.0048% chance of death from Vaccine
2.34million /39,930 =1.7% chance of death from Covid virus

 

[ghjfdtg]

"The smaller total may be linked to a sharp fall in seasonal influenza infections as people took strict infection prevention measures, including wearing face masks and washing their hands, amid the novel coronavirus pandemic."

Lol.

Yep, that's a world wide trend. Flu cases have gone down rapidly since the pandemic. Considering this it's probably not a bad idea to keep precautions when we reach endemic and beyond.

 

[Lacius]

Limited contextual and observational evidence of psychosis was the same evidence to support febrile delirium.

Lack of evidence for one thing is not evidence for another thing. Using words like "suspected" doesn't make a claim any less baseless, irresponsible, or idiotic.

I could be "suspecting" that Legends of Arceus causes brain aneurysms, and I'd be just as foolish.

 

[Lacius]

Yep, that's a world wide trend. Flu cases have gone down rapidly since the pandemic. Considering this it's probably not a bad idea to keep precautions when we reach endemic and beyond.

Regardless of what happens to mask-wearing, etc., I hope some things never go back to normal. For example, I never want to shake hands ever again. It was always a stupid and unhygienic custom.

 

[KingVamp]

Yep, that's a world wide trend. Flu cases have gone down rapidly since the pandemic. Considering this it's probably not a bad idea to keep precautions when we reach endemic and beyond.

Maybe plastic dividers where they make sense, but I doubt much is going to change even among the people that care, outside something like covid.

Regardless of what happens to mask-wearing, etc., I hope some things never go back to normal. For example, I never want to shake hands ever again. It was always a stupid and unhygienic custom.

Lol I mean, it happens, but not enough for me to get mad/frustrated about it. Maybe you prefer the fist bump, elbow bump or even the foot shake?

 

[tabzer]

Lack of evidence for one thing is not evidence for another thing.

That's not even what it says, weirdo. Psychosis and febrile delirium have similar observable qualities.

Something happened. What caused it?

*in jumps inspector Lacius*

"Whatever it is, it'd be irrational to consider vaccines!"

You can't be a real person.

 

[Lacius]

That's not even what it says, weirdo.

I was responding to what you said, weirdo, not what the paper said. Please keep up.

Psychosis and have similar observable qualities.

There was no evidence provided that it was febrile delirium, let alone that it could have been febrile delirium.

Baselessly suggesting a suicide might have been caused by the vaccine is laughably absurd anti-vax propaganda. You might as well be suggesting that vaccines might cause autism.

Something happened. What caused it?

Asking this question is fine, but paper didn't stop here. It suggested it may have been caused by the vaccine, but it did so without evidence that this happened or was even possible.

EDIT: Sorry, forget everything I said. The article flat out claims, baselessly, that the vaccine in fact caused the suicide.

 

[tabzer]

Limited contextual and observational evidence of psychosis was the same evidence to support febrile delirium.

Lack of evidence for one thing is not evidence for another thing.

That's not even what it says, weirdo. Psychosis and febrile delirium have similar observable qualities.

I was responding to what you said, weirdo, not what the paper said. Please keep up.

Look up. It's not what the paper says nor what I said. Just shut up.

There was no evidence provided that it was febrile delirium

There's no evidence that you are presenting a rational train of thought. Are you ok?

EDIT: Sorry, forget everything I said. The article flat out claims, baselessly, that the vaccine in fact caused the suicide.

Quote it.

Still waiting on the contradictory evidence that you say that exists.

 

[Lacius]

Look up. It's not what the paper says nor what I said. Just shut up.



There's no evidence that you are presenting a rational train of thought. Are you ok?


Quote it.

Still waiting on the contradictory evidence that you say that exists.

"Limited contextual and observational evidence of psychosis was the same evidence to support febrile delirium" means "limited evidence for psychosis is evidence for an alternative explanation." If you meant something else, then you need to do a better job constructing your posts.

"It was reported that he completed suicide due to psychosis. However, actually he accidentally died following abnormal behavior due to febrile delirium after vaccination."

 

[Deleted member 42501]

Covid proved that people are very, very stupid and remarkably easily influenced to believe things that may or may not be to their benefit.

Amazingly either side can apply this thought to the other side (aka "the bad guys") and be totally correct whilst remaining totally oblivious of its implications.

You've got to laugh.

 

[Lacius]

Covid proved that people are very, very stupid and remarkably easily influenced to believe things that may or may not be to their benefit.

Amazingly either side can apply this thought to the other side (aka "the bad guys") and be totally correct whilst remaining totally oblivious of its implications.

You've got to laugh.

~90% of the thousands of Americans dying daily of COVID-19 are unvaccinated, so it's pretty easy to tell where the stupidity lies.

 

[Deleted member 42501]

~90% of the thousands of Americans dying daily of COVID-19 are unvaccinated, so it's pretty easy to tell where the stupidity lies.

And they'd probably express a similar sentiment about your thought process. Thats the point of my statement so think a little harder before replying next time.

I personally have no three legged mule in this race either way but do enjoy psychological pontification from up here on my high horse.

And with that, he's gone!

 

[Lacius]

And they'd probably express a similar sentiment about your thought process. Thats the point of my statement so think a little harder before replying next time.

And my point was that it's clear who's right and who's wrong. These are scientifically quantifiable facts we are dealing with, and it would be a mistake to suggest both sides are equally correct or equally wrong. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but they don't have a right to their own facts.

People making good points typically don't have to get catty.

 

[Deleted member 42501]

And my point was that it's clear who's right and who's wrong. These are scientifically quantifiable facts we are dealing with, and it would be a mistake to suggest both sides are equally correct or equally wrong. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but they don't have a right to their own facts.

People making good points typically don't have to get catty.

I've already used up my forum patience for the month so am a bit more curt than usual.

In response I'll direct you to check out the issue with the replication crisis and why science isn't all its cracked up to be. Especially where it intersects with big business, public opinion and mass media as that makes it all the murkier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...it-comes-to-scientific-studies-thats-often-a/

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/21504366/science-replication-crisis-peer-review-statistics

Like I said, I don't care about this one way or the other nor the people crusading against the other side as I see a much larger picture that transcends these petty polarities and need to be right in anothers eyes/validated for their choice. Both of them don't know what they're talking about as each is using unreliable information sources that often flat out contradict reality as it stands or is edited to push a narrative.

No need to respond. I won't be replying but I do encourage you to think.

 

[Lacius]

I've already used up my forum patience for the month so am a bit more curt than usual.

In response I'll direct you to check out the issue with the replication crisis and why science isn't all its cracked up to be. Especially where it intersects with big business, public opinion and mass media as that makes it all the murkier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...it-comes-to-scientific-studies-thats-often-a/

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/21504366/science-replication-crisis-peer-review-statistics

Like I said, I don't care about this one way or the other nor the people crusading against the other side as I see a much larger picture that transcends these petty polarities and need to be right in anothers eyes/validated for their choice. Both of them don't know what they're talking about as each is using unreliable information sources that often flat out contradict reality as it stands or is edited to push a narrative.

No need to respond. I won't be replying but I do encourage you to think.

I'm well aware of the replication crisis in science. The good news is, with the publicity that COVID-19 has, there is no replication crisis when it comes to repeating experiments relating to COVID-19, vaccine efficacy, vaccine safety, etc.

Even if the above weren't true, acknowledging the replication crisis isn't itself a refutation of any specific scientific claim.

I encourage you to research your points before posting, since your last post ended up being wholly irrelevant to the topic.

 

[djpannda]

And they'd probably express a similar sentiment about your thought process. Thats the point of my statement so think a little harder before replying next time.

I personally have no three legged mule in this race either way but do enjoy psychological pontification from up here on my high horse.



And with that, he's gone!

2+2=4 period.
no matter how loud they scream that its the answer 5, the earth is flat, vaccines are carry tracking chips, The JFK and JFK JR are alive ( and Republican) , Obama is a not born American, or Russia is better then the US.

People need to stop cuddling snowflake Conspiracy Theorist and People who "Hint" Racial superiority. Not "correcting" them allows them to think their right..
The Reason Nazi were parading in FL last week in the open, was because it has been a while since someone "Punched a Nazi in the face"

 

[Glyptofane]

People need to stop cuddling snowflake Conspiracy Theorist and People who "Hint" Racial superiority. Not "correcting" them allows them to think their right..

You're behind the times. It's actually our blood that is superior to yours and this includes the majority of black people refusing the vaccine. I unapologetically and proudly stand with BLM and my fellow black Purebloods on this particular issue.

 

[djpannda]

You're behind the times. It's actually our blood that is superior to yours and this includes the majority of black people refusing the vaccine. I unapologetically and proudly stand with BLM and my fellow black Purebloods on this particular issue.

= People who "Hint" Racial superiority