Covid-19 vaccine

[djpannda]

No shoe's no shirt no service, but a mask that's too far

LOL think the next time someone Complains about mask and not wearing any, I will proceed to take my pants off while screaming the pants are resisting my Penis rights.

 

[SG854]

LOL think the next time someone Complains about mask and not wearing any, I will proceed to take my pants off while screaming the pants are resisting my Penis rights.

Free the Nipple? How about Free the Penis

 

[djpannda]

Free the Nipple? How about Free the Penis

Well I been showing my Wenis all summer

 

[BitMasterPlus]

The Best Piece of Argument done for mask and Vaccines

I ran thru 2 red lights and 3 stop signed because it my GOD DANG Right to the Road.

These Pants are restrictive and "it" cant breathe These pants are Against my Freedom..
I am now Pants-less.

Ok fine, I'll wear a mask as long as I don't have to see the guy's disgusting cock! lol

 

[djpannda]

Ok fine, I'll wear a mask as long as I don't have to see the guy's disgusting cock! lol

thats all I asked for....lol

 

[NyaakoXD]

The Best Piece of Argument done for mask and Vaccines

I ran thru 2 red lights and 3 stop signed because it my GOD DANG Right to the Road.

These Pants are restrictive and "it" cant breathe These pants are Against my Freedom..
I am now Pants-less.

Might as well not wear a seatbelt (mask/vaccine) while driving. It restricts muh freedom because it makes me feel uncomfortable. I won't get into an accident (sick with COVID-19) and die from it or accidentally crash into other people (infect others with the virus).

No way it'll happen to me. Nope, nuh-uh. Can't make me. Accidents don't exist. It's all a propaganda.

 

[Foxi4]

Might as well not wear a seatbelt (mask/vaccine) while driving. It restricts muh freedom because it makes me feel uncomfortable. I won't get into an accident (sick with COVID-19) and die from it or accidentally crash into other people (infect others with the virus).

No way it'll happen to me. Nope, nuh-uh. Can't make me. Accidents don't exist. It's all a propaganda.

A seat belt does not protect you from getting into an accident, nor does it prevent you from crashing into random pedestrians or other vehicles, it only protects you from being flung out of your vehicle or being thrown around it due to impact like a ragdoll. There's a case to be made that you can technically fly out through the windshield and subsequently hit something/someone if the force is sufficient, but at that point whatever is in front of you has bigger problems, namely the giant hunk of steel that either just crashed into it or is shooting debris in that general direction. I never understood the requirement for the driver to wear a seat belt, and never will - it's a device designed to protect the occupant of the vehicle, and as far as I'm concerned, they can make that decision themselves. For the record, I think driving without a seat belt is tremendously stupid and irresponsible (they work), but if I hear another car beep because I wasn't fast enough with it (as in, I took more than a picosecond), I might just jump into traffic myself. I have considered locating the exact fuse that's responsible for this feature and removing it entirely, but so far sitting awkwardly in the seat so as to not trigger the sensor while I fumble with the belt has done the trick. All a complete aside, of course - you should wear masks, and there are externalities to consider here, so there is some justification for a mandate. Whether that justification is enough should be subject to debate, not cringe-inducing striptease.

 

[notimp]

I never understood the requirement for the driver to wear a seat belt, and never will - it's a device designed to protect the occupant of the vehicle, and as far as I'm concerned, they can make that decision themselves.

• Seat belts dramatically reduce risk of death and serious injury. Among drivers and front-seat passengers, seat belts reduce the risk of death by 45%, and cut the risk of serious injury by 50%.4
• Seat belts prevent drivers and passengers from being ejected during a crash. People not wearing a seat belt are 30 times more likely to be ejected from a vehicle during a crash. More than 3 out of 4 people who are ejected during a fatal crash die from their injuries.5

https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/seatbeltbrief/index.html

 

[Foxi4]

• Seat belts dramatically reduce risk of death and serious injury. Among drivers and front-seat passengers, seat belts reduce the risk of death by 45%, and cut the risk of serious injury by 50%.4
• Seat belts prevent drivers and passengers from being ejected during a crash. People not wearing a seat belt are 30 times more likely to be ejected from a vehicle during a crash. More than 3 out of 4 people who are ejected during a fatal crash die from their injuries.5

https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/seatbeltbrief/index.html

Yes, they do, I've said as much. What I contested was that they prevent accidents, which they do not in any shape or form.

 

[djpannda]

Yes, they do, I've said as much. What I contested was that they prevent accidents, which they do not in any shape or form.

and? the point of seatbelt/safety devices are to lower and prevent death and injury from the disaster. not the disaster itself. Just like mask are meant to "lower and Prevent death and Injury from the disaster (COVID)"

 

[Foxi4]

and? the point of seatbelt/safety devices are to lower and prevent death and injury from the disaster. not the disaster itself. Just like mask are meant to "lower and Prevent death and Injury from the disaster (COVID)"

The government is not responsible for keeping me safe from my own decisions. If I want to be reckless and do something stupid that has no externalities (as in, I am not hurting anybody) or externalities that are largely mitigated by other factors, there is no reason for the government to get involved. In fact, it could be argued that it's an imposition on individual freedoms, which includes the freedom to be stupid. I am fully in favour of people being free to engage in any behaviour that does not cause harm to others, this includes behaviour that is self-destructive. We all know that alcohol, cigarettes (or nicotine products in general, but cigarettes especially on account of tar) or other drugs are detrimental to your health, but you would be hard-pressed to convince me that they should be illegal.

EDIT, since you've also edited your post: 99%+ of hospitalizations are now unvaccinated patients. We told them to take the jab and they didn't listen - that's not my fault, it's theirs. They made a stupid decision in regards to their personal health and are now suffering the consequences of their choice. This is in no way an argument to impose on my own freedom. The mitigating factor here is the freely available vaccine - anyone can take the jab, it's 96%+ effective, if statistics are to be believed, and that's good enough for me. You are exceedingly unlikely to die or suffer severe consequences from the disease if you are vaccinated, so the ball is in your court, not mine. Pretty simple, from where I'm sitting.

 

[djpannda]

The government is not responsible for keeping me safe from my own decisions. If I want to be reckless and do something stupid …..but you would be hard-pressed to convince me that they should be illegal.
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Yet almost every country in the world have seatbelt, traffic,Public decency, safety regulations that “the government placed to stop people from doing stupid things”… this is no different

 

[Foxi4]

Yet almost every country in the world have seatbelt, traffic,Public decency, safety regulations that “the government placed to stop people from doing stupid things”… this is no different

I never said that they don't, I said that I consider the requirement unjustified since it does not serve public safety, it's the nanny state keeping the driver safe from himself. A vaccine mandate would be very different as it would require people to undergo medical procedures they did not consent to - making vaccines easily accessible to the public is good enough. Keeping other people safe from the consequences of their own decisions is not my concern, it's not your concern and it's not the government's job.

 

[NyaakoXD]

I was only making a sarcastic comment and making fun of people making excuses to not wear masks and take the vaccine.

The point was that masks and vaccines do indeed help and reduce the risk of serious illnesses/injuries/death along with reducing/slowing down the rate of infection onto others.

Was comparing seatbelts with masks and vaccines and accidents as getting sick with COVID-19.

• With the vaccine, you reduce the risk of getting the serious illnesses. And of course reduce the risk of dying from COVID-19.
• With a seatbelt, you reduce the risk of flying out of your seat and hit your head through the window. And, of course, reduce the risk of dying from the accident.

I guess it wasn't good to make seatbelts also be like masks, so that's on me.

 

[Foxi4]

I was only making a sarcastic comment and making fun of people making excuses to not wear masks and take the vaccine.

The point was that masks and vaccines do indeed help and reduce the risk of serious illnesses/injuries/death along with reducing/slowing down the rate of infection onto others.

Was comparing seatbelts with masks and vaccines and accidents as getting sick with COVID-19.

• With the vaccine, you reduce the risk of getting the serious illnesses. And of course reduce the risk of dying from COVID-19.
• With a seatbelt, you reduce the risk of flying out of your seat and hit your head through the window. And, of course, reduce the risk of dying from the accident.

I guess it wasn't good to make seatbelts also be like masks, so that's on me.

Oh, I understood your point. You're not wrong, we should definitely take precautions to keep ourselves safe, and prevent the spread of the virus.

 

[tabzer]

Guys, do I need a license for this body of mine? I'll be the first to admit that it's my privilege and not your right.

 

[SG854]

Guys, do I need a license for this body of mine? I'll be the first to admit that it's my privilege and not your right.

@Lacius is giving out the license

 

[AncientBoi]

I intend to get a 3rd injection. No matter what you guys say. And yes, I do wear a mask. So there pfffffft. lol

 

[Lacius]

@Lacius is giving out the license

I'm doing what now?

 

[Dakitten]

Guys, do I need a license for this body of mine? I'll be the first to admit that it's my privilege and not your right.

Much like you can't harbor infectious waste on your person in public, you can't knowingly do the same with a virus. If you want to go out on the town, get vaccinated and wear a mask. Otherwise, camp it out and pray it goes away soon.