Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

[Xzi]

Too much isolation from antigens and the 'herd' immune response will suffer though. I'm hoping we haven't done this for so long that once we stop wearing the masks around each other in public, people will respond poorly to common colds, minor flu strains that wouldn't have caused a problem before.

Nah, a year or two wearing masks doesn't magically make a healthy person immunocompromised. Asian cultures have been wearing masks for decades just to prevent the spread of the flu and common cold, and at times to filter out air pollution.

Anyway, Texas just rescinded all Covid-19 related restrictions, so I guess there's finally light at the end of the tunnel whether anybody likes it / wants it or not.

Let's be honest: almost nobody was following the guidelines in Texas to begin with, or throughout this entire pandemic. Their hospitals have been at maximum capacity for months now, and we're probably gonna see another spike in hospitalizations and infections within the next few days, resulting from their time without electricity or water.

 

[Hanafuda]

Nah, a year or two wearing masks doesn't magically make a healthy person immunocompromised. Asian cultures have been wearing masks for decades just to prevent the spread of the flu and common cold, and at times to filter out air pollution.

The practice in Japan, before Covid at least, was to wear a mask after you got sick. Not to keep yourself from getting sick. And yes, some people in the city will wear one while walking in the subway underground and on the street during rush hour traffic. I lived there for two years, never saw it practiced that all healthy people would wear masks in public as a preventative.

 

[tthousand]

*Snip*

 

[Xzi]

The practice in Japan, before Covid at least, was to wear a mask after you got sick.

Right, that's what I meant. The result is the same either way, fewer germs and viruses flying around. It's not a necessity to catch each year's unique strain of the cold or flu in order to have some level of immune system protection from them.

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"It's not that I'm incapable of understanding basic math, science, and reason, I just think differently, so all that stuff is irrelevant."

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

Right, that's what I meant. The result is the same either way, fewer germs and viruses flying around. It's not a necessity to catch each year's unique strain of the cold or flu in order to have some level of immune system protection from them.


"It's not that I'm incapable of understanding basic math, science, and reason, I just think differently, so all that stuff is irrelevant."

They're just built different

 

[Foxi4]

"It's not that I'm incapable of understanding basic math, science, and reason, I just think differently, so all that stuff is irrelevant."

This fosters the wrong kind of mindset. As I've once mentioned before, science is an exercise of repeatedly being wrong until you're not. Let's not forget that just last year there was "no evidence of human-to-human transmission" and every news outlet was banging the "it's just a flu, bro" drum. It's *good* to offer contrasting opinions and constantly have challengers to the status quo, not just in science but in all walks of life - that's how progress is made. Of course those challenges must also be substantiated, but the idea of "trusting the science" with religious devotion is contrary to its core tenants. "Trust, but verify" is a more appropriate approach.

 

[Plasmaster09]

This fosters the wrong kind of mindset. As I've once mentioned before, science is an exercise of repeatedly being wrong until you're not. Let's not forget that just last year there was "no evidence of human-to-human transmission" and every news outlet was banging the "it's just a flu, bro" drum. It's *good* to offer contrasting opinions and constantly have challengers to the status quo, not just in science but in all walks of life - that's how progress is made. Of course those challenges must also be substantiated, but the idea of "trusting the science" with religious devotion is contrary to its core tenants. "Trust, but verify" is a more appropriate approach.

Well, yes. It's just that what he was saying was referring not to "trust but verify" but to what is undeniably a batshit insane conspiracy theory. (Have you SEEN the Q 'roadmap'? They believe five thousand absurdities, yet can't wrap their head around an election NOT being rigged!)

 

[tthousand]

It is my personal opinion that no one in this thread has ever, or possibly will ever, see a free and fair election in the United States. As far back as I can remember, there has always been some form of corruption or another being reported.

 

[Foxi4]

Well, yes. It's just that what he was saying was referring not to "trust but verify" but to what is undeniably a batshit insane conspiracy theory. (Have you SEEN the Q 'roadmap'? They believe five thousand absurdities, yet can't wrap their head around an election NOT being rigged!)

Q is so funny. I was merely pointing out that @Xzi's response to non-conformity is incorrect. Non-conformity, in and out of itself, isn't a bad thing. There are extremes on both sides.

 

[Plasmaster09]

It is my personal opinion that no one in this thread has ever, or possibly will ever, see a free and fair election in the United States. As far back as I can remember, there has always been some form of corruption or another being reported.

"It is my personal opinion that [demonstrably incorrect statement peddled as fact]. [continues peddling it as fact]."

Q is so funny. I was merely pointing out that @Xzi's response to non-conformity is incorrect. Non-conformity, in and out of itself, isn't a bad thing. There are extremes on both sides.

Yeah. Non-conformity is generally a good thing tbh, it's just that some things stretch beyond reasonable doubt.
And yeah, Q is so ridiculous it's funny. It's the perfect example of "fractal wrongness"- not only is it nigh infinitely wrong, you can zoom in at any major portion of it and find a worldview exactly as wrong as the entire thing! You'd think in such a vast web of theories at least SOME of them would be correct, but... a stopped clock ain't right twice a day when it's stopped at 25:-iπ QM.

 

[Xzi]

"Trust, but verify" is a more appropriate approach.

I agree. The issue is that most modern conspiracy theorists choose to neither trust nor verify. Within that group you see a whole lot of contrarianism just for the sake of being contrarian, a lot of blatantly partisan propaganda, and a lot of snowflakes who want to imagine they're special for holding completely nonsensical beliefs and opinions. Things were a lot more fun when conspiracy theorists at least tried to connect the dots and make things slightly believable for critical thinkers. Now all you gotta do to get thousands of upvotes/likes within those communities is take a few buzzwords and throw 'em in a blender.

 

[Plasmaster09]

I agree. The issue is that most modern conspiracy theorists choose to neither trust nor verify. Within that group you see a whole lot of contrarianism just for the sake of being contrarian, a lot of blatantly partisan propaganda, and a lot of snowflakes who want to imagine they're special for holding completely nonsensical beliefs and opinions. Things were a lot more fun when conspiracy theorists at least tried to connect the dots and make things slightly believable for critical thinkers. Now all you gotta do to get thousands of upvotes/likes within those communities is take a few buzzwords and throw 'em in a blender.

yeah
or at least have some partisan balancing so that all of the "both sides are equally wrong" garbage holds any water
like why aren't there any funky-ass conspiracies about Trump...
...oh wait, we don't need those because the things he's literally been proven to have said and done are already absurd enough
the only way to make a conspiracy theory about Trump as proportionally batcrap insane as the ones about Hillary, Biden, etc. would be to claim something like him being part of some kind of alien baby-assimilation nonsense trying to overthrow our world and sell it to Borg-like hostile invaders for a wedge of cheese

 

[tthousand]

"Some things will never change"
- Lesane Parish Crooks a.k.a. Tupac Amaru Shakur a.k.a. Makaveli



"In remembrance of September 11th
Flashback to September 7th
When 2Pac was murdered in Vegas
He said it, he predicted his own death, let us never forget it
Should we ever live to regret it
Like the day John F. Kennedy was assassinated in broad day
By the crazed lunatic with a gun
Who just happened to work on the same block
In the library book depository
Where the President would go for a little Friday stroll
Shots fired from the grassy knoll
But they don't know, or do they?"
- Marshall Bruce Mathers III a.k.a. Eminem a.k.a. Slim Shady

 

[Plasmaster09]

"Some things will never change"
- Lesane Parish Crooks a.k.a. Tupac Amaru Shakur a.k.a. Makaveli



"In remembrance of September 11th
Flashback to September 7th
When 2Pac was murdered in Vegas
He said it, he predicted his own death, let us never forget it
Should we ever live to regret it
Like the day John F. Kennedy was assassinated in broad day
By the crazed lunatic with a gun
Who just happened to work on the same block
In the library book depository
Where the President would go for a little Friday stroll
Shots fired from the grassy knoll
But they don't know, or do they?"
- Marshall Bruce Mathers III a.k.a. Eminem a.k.a. Slim Shady

first off who the hell bothers referring to rappers by three different names at once
second off... please stop using random shit to justify braindead conspiracy nonsense
just because Bob "Not A Fucking Expert" Bobson wrote a sonnet on how everything is corrupt and bad doesn't actually provide a shred of evidence in favor of anything

 

[Xzi]

first off who the hell bothers referring to rappers by three different names at once
second off... please stop using random shit to justify braindead conspiracy nonsense
just because Bob "Not A Fucking Expert" Bobson wrote a sonnet on how everything is corrupt and bad doesn't actually provide a shred of evidence in favor of anything

I was just pleasantly surprised to see a rightie quoting Tupac, Kennedy, and Eminem, even if he's not really understanding the meaning behind their words.

"He turned the power to the have-nots...and then came the SHOT!"

 

[Plasmaster09]

I was just pleasantly surprised to see a rightie quoting Tupac, Kennedy, and Eminem, even if he's not really understanding the meaning behind their words.

"He turned the power to the have-nots...and then came the SHOT!"

no, I wasn't criticizing you liking the post, considering I didn't know the context behind you liking it and don't really like getting in people's face about something that small
but yeah it's kinda rare for someone that far down the far right rabbit hole to quote someone that ISN'T a right wing talking head tbh

 

[tthousand]

I have been listening to rap music since before you guys were even a thought... so its easy to see why I believe the government is corrupt. I'm not left, I'm not right... I suppose I am mostly in the middle. As far as I am concerned, this whole Q Anon movement might be a deep state psyop. I just think it is unjust to label people, including people who have different views. As I have stated before, I had my own thoughts about what might and might not be well before Q came into play. I really have not followed the Q Anon movement. The fact that some people now are starting to look into these theories more just speaks to the volume of people possibly waking up.

My main point in the JFK video was to point out JFK was talking about deep state conspiracy back in those days, which is why the opposition was possibly silenced. It's not a stretch to think the deep state has only grown more powerful since then, seeing as they are mostly unchecked.

 

[Plasmaster09]

I have been listening to rap music since before you guys were even a thought... so its easy to see why I believe the government is corrupt. I'm not left, I'm not right... I suppose I am mostly in the middle. As far as I am concerned, this whole Q Anon movement might be a deep state psyop. I just think it is unjust to label people, including people who have different views. As I have stated before, I had my own thoughts about what might and might not be well before Q came into play. I really have not followed the Q Anon movement. The fact that some people now are starting to look into these theories more just speaks to the volume of people possibly waking up.

My main point in the JFK video was to point out JFK was talking about deep state conspiracy back in those days, which is why the opposition was possibly silenced. It's not a stretch to think the deep state has only grown more powerful since then, seeing as they are mostly unchecked.

honestly this level of persecution-complex "there must be a Deep State on my ass" weirdness has spread so virulently that I've decided to coin the term "deepflake" for it
you need to feel special or justified, so you fool yourself into thinking there's some great corrupt puppeteer power behind the scenes silently turning things against you despite nothing of the sort existing

 

[Valwinz]

Thanks Biden
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[tabzer]

it just implies his viewpoint is invalid in some way without providing a drop of evidence

I don't agree with that type of thinking. As I have already said, I haven't disagreed, generally, with what he has written. Did I not make it clear?

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Their = American.

They were late to that party as well because they didn't want to get involved, Japan forced their hand. I'm sure in their version of the movie they are the good guys, but it's not so clear to me.

I apologize for the misunderstanding. I was convinced you were talking about American movies being re-written. It sounds like, now, you are referring to history as the movie. I don't know how most people see it, but my understanding is that Americans are generally taught about "the Axis of evil" and that America played the role of the good guys and saved the world from Nazis. In almost all of their WW2 era war movies (or most war movies) America is heroic.