Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[UltraSUPRA]

So I was right on the money. Again, the problem remains: that would make you a criminal the second you infringe on someone else's liberty, aka their right to good health and well-being. You aren't the only individual being referred to by the phrase, "individual liberty." Masks function by protecting those around the wearer more than the wearer themselves, so in order to preserve as many individual liberties as possible through the rest of this hellish year, we ALL have to wear masks so we are ALL protected. Otherwise there will be more restrictions (again), and you'll get all pissy about it (again), but ultimately there will be nothing you can change about the situation.

What? Mask mandates infringe the liberty of the individual to not wear a mask. Stop pretending that the responsibility of an individual's safety falls on anyone but themselves and their family.

 

[tabzer]

My point being @tabzer
I've tried so much effort into explaining why you should wear a mask, and why it's not unconstitutional and so on. And when you put all that effort and the other side doesn't budge, you eventually say fuck it.

So fuck it. At least you aren't pretending to care about them.

 

[Deleted User]

So fuck it. At least you aren't pretending to care about them.

I used to care. If I didn't care why would I go through all that effort? People have breaking points however with how far they can care. If you ignore science, if you ignore data, if you ignore what experts have said, for 11 months and repeat the same talking points in a endless loop of similar arguments?!
then yeah
it's becomes really hard to care.

 

[Darth Meteos]

Yeah unless the family you would of seen dies before you get to see them again. Tell me if your mother died next january what would you give to see her in november if you didnt because you are worried about a stupid virus.

My grandmother died of COVID, I was not able to see her before she passed. I did video calls as often as I could, and I will never truly get over the fact that I wasn't able to see her again. But the case was contained to only three people in her nursing home because of the careful quarantining. If I had gone and gotten COVID I could have passed it on to other people, and by extension to their loved ones. I am not a selfish creature like you.

 

[jimbo13]

Covid is not a statistically significant risk to your health or life.

The face diapers are useless and members of the ruling class are sitting around at dinner parties laughing at the babies wearing them.

If they wanted effective masking N95 would be available.

 

[Xzi]

What? Mask mandates infringe the liberty of the individual to not wear a mask. Stop pretending that the responsibility of an individual's safety falls on anyone but themselves and their family.

What? Failing to implement a mask mandate during an active pandemic infringes on the individual's rights of life, liberty AND the pursuit of happiness. Stop pretending we're still pea-brained hunter-gatherers living in tiny Mesopotamian tribes. If the science says we need a collective solution in order to keep the individuals alive, that's what we're gonna do. Bitch and moan about it all you want, it won't change that reality.

 

[wartutor]

Value is that anti maskers will want to reconsider their position if another situation like this arises. Since they'll have experienced themselves what it's like to not wear a mask and get the full effect of a near lethal airborne virus

Near lethal wow talk about blowing the mouse up to whale size. .02% mortality rate isnt anywhere near lethal fucking jesus crist lock yourself up if your that scared of it and LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE.

So I was right on the money. Again, the problem remains: that would make you a criminal the second you infringe on someone else's liberty, aka their right to good health and well-being. You aren't the only individual being referred to by the phrase, "individual liberty." Masks function by protecting those around the wearer more than the wearer themselves, so in order to preserve as many individual liberties as possible through the rest of this hellish year, we ALL have to wear masks so we are ALL protected. Otherwise there will be more restrictions (again), and you'll get all pissy about it (again), but ultimately there will be nothing you can change about the situation.

Again stay the fuck home if ur scared. Infringing on my right to choose because you dont want to fucking stay home is no excuse. Dont like it fuck off

 

[jimbo13]

What? Failing to implement a mask mandate during an active pandemic infringes on the individual's rights of life, liberty AND the pursuit of happiness. Stop pretending we're still pea-brained hunter-gatherers living in tiny Mesopotamian tribes. If the science says we need a collective solution in order to keep the individuals alive, that's what we're gonna do. Bitch and moan about it all you want, it won't change that reality.

You have every right to keep your ass at home, no risk of covid there.

And we aren't going to engage in a collective solution, as evident by the sheer number of people telling you to shove the face diaper up your ass. It's not happening and It's not going to happen.


If your solution is a collective solution you don't have a solution, you have social engineering and a bad plan.

 

[Xzi]

You have every right to keep your ass at home, no risk of covid there.

Just as you have every right to keep your ass at home if your poor little dainty ears get hurt by a mask. Watching the first fifty or so Karens and Kyles throw a tantrum at minimum wage retail/fast food employees was funny, now it's just sad.

And we aren't going to engage in a collective solution, as evident by the sheer number of people telling you to shove the face diaper up your ass. It's not happening and It's not going to happen.

We are going to engage in a collective solution, one way or another. Either we flatten the curve with collective mask-wearing, or we will be going back to mandatory lockdowns in certain states. It's no skin off my back if you want to do things the hard way, and you'll have only yourself to blame for contributing to the problem instead of to the solution.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

We are going to engage in a collective solution, one way or another. Either we flatten the curve with collective mask-wearing, or we will be going back to mandatory lockdowns in certain states. It's no skin off my back if you want to do things the hard way, and you'll have only yourself to blame for contributing to the problem instead of to the solution.

Or...y'know...survival of the fittest.

 

[Xzi]

Or...y'know...survival of the fittest.

If only. Had Trump been left to fend for himself, he would have died of COVID for sure. In America it's survival of the wealthiest, and they convince idiots like you to sacrifice their own grandmothers for the good of the stock market.

 

[jimbo13]

We are going to engage in a collective solution, one way or another.

You can't even get the people making the mandates that believe this garbage to comply. My state will not be mandating anything.

Mandate Newsom is sitting at dinner with healthcare CEOs, while he is telling everyone else to stay home and wear mask.
Progressives are a joke, and as I laugh at you it is unimpeded by a mask.

 

[KingVamp]

Some people aren't doing the right thing, so everyone should be doing the wrong thing.

 

[jimbo13]

Some people aren't doing the right thing, so everyone should be doing the wrong thing.

It's not some people, it's the vast majority of those pushing this garbage. Generally the most aggressive ones.

Lock downs didn't matter when ANTIFA wanted to go torch Starbucks & loot Macys.

Mask & lockdown mandates have no credibility due to the poor behavior of progressives.



Michigan governor’s husband under fire for asking to take his boat out during lockdown.

 

[Xzi]

My state will not be mandating anything.

Then you'll end up falling under a federal mandate if things get bad enough. You conservative plague rats just don't seem to get it, you're only backing yourselves into a smaller and smaller corner.

 

[jimbo13]

Then you'll end up falling under a federal mandate if things get bad enough. You conservative plague rats just don't seem to get it, you're only backing yourselves into a smaller and smaller corner.

Federal mandates aren't legal, wont happen and no amount of tantrumming is going to make anyone wear the face diaper that doesn't want to.

 

[Xzi]

Federal mandates aren't legal, wont happen and no amount of tantrumming is going to make anyone wear the face diaper that doesn't want to.

If all the businesses are forced to close except for carryout/delivery, and you're restricted to essential travel only, no amount of tantrumming is going to get you around those policies. You can bring your state one step closer to that level of lockdown or help to ensure that's an unnecessary step. Again, it's no skin off my back which you choose, I'm simply explaining to you the most basic of life lessons: actions have consequences. Welcome to the real world, buttercup.

 

[notimp]

Covid is not a statistically significant risk to your health or life.

Has almost twice the mortality of cancer in certain countries - at peak absolute death rate (currently we are not that far removed from peak):
https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-0...and-other-death-causes--U4LJxzQlA4/index.html

Kills more people than road traffic. More than Tuberculosis or AIDS.

Always is in the top 7 of causes of death (even averaged over the year and with testing difficulties (testing capability not spread equally around the world).
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/covid-19-deaths-global-killers-comparison/

And for the fifth time, talking to you - as it is an infectious disease transmitted through droplets and aerosols, rate of spread is the real issue. US is already running dry in the medical sector (people overworked, equipment missing), since 80% of hospitals did not stock up for a second wave (third wave in the US) during summer months (equipment wise) (edit: see: https://www.vox.com/2020/11/21/2158...avirus-cases-surge-hospital-staff-overwhelmed) - so just wait and see. Winter still lasts for another two months, and vaccination cant be rolled out that fast. (To a point, where it reaches significant numbers of people.)

 

[jimbo13]

If all the businesses are forced to close except for carryout/delivery, and you're restricted to essential travel only, no amount of tantrumming is going to get you around those policies.

Those policies will not be implemented here, and even if they were no one would follow them and if the Democrats think they are going to use military and occupy a American state good luck with that.

This isn't Britain, we don't have a monarchy and you wont be forcing anyone to wear a mask, I realize the beta-serfs in blue cities do whatever a female state employee tells them to but here in Montana we live where it is -40 just so we don't have to hear your effeminate whining or look at your skinny jeans. We don't even permit you to make eye contact or speak in public if you aren't armed, taking directions from democrats is like letting a middle schooler rape your wife.

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot defends hairstylist visit

 

[wartutor]

https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-0...and-other-death-causes--U4LJxzQlA4/index.html

From that "news" story...

It’s hard to know exactly how deadly COVID-19 is due to lack of accurate data. Case-fatality ratios have been crudely calculated as anything from less than 0.1% to over 25% between countries, according to the WHO.

However, you are still much more likely to die from non-communicable diseases – those that are not transmitted between people.


Now how may of these deaths were counted when heart disease and resporatory disease was the real killer and they just "tested" positive for covid and had a high % chance of dying any fucking way.
You lock the whole world up and pay hospitals $ based on how many covid deaths they have and then dont even have real options to test or anyone fact checking the deaths and you end up with mary dying in a car wreck but she had covid...cause of death covid, theres another $1800 for our hospital.