[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[omgcat]

on the more factual side of things, fivethrityeight put out some info about what effect the last debate had on the race so far. spoilers: not much. positive numbers for Biden, negative numbers for trump. so -9 means trump leads by 9%.
collecting the 37 polls from around 10/22 to now.

October surprises generally don't have a huge effect (2016 being the exception), and we can see that reflected here.

with an aggregate lead of 9.1%, Biden would need to drop 1% per day or more, every day from today, until Nov 3rd to be within the margin of error. well, actually it needs to be more than that because people are voting day by day instead of all on the 3rd.

 

[KingVamp]

Omgcat, I can't agree with you no longer. Polls don't exist, they are a hoax.

 

[crimpshrine]

The media and democrats that attempt to hide and provide cover for this stuff for Joe and his family are despicable.

can I change my vote is still trending on all search engines.

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https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1321245932890001411?s=20

 

[omgcat]

Omgcat, I can't agree with you no longer. Polls don't exist, they are a hoax.

;_;

god i don't understand why women don't like trump, i mean he says he's sending their husbands back to work.

Same with the senior voters, his daughter says the coronavirus is over, and obviously she is such a great scientist that the white house can quote her in an official capacity. why would seniors be worried? it's not like the virus is spiking all over the country in the largest numbers so far, especially in rural areas.

 

[omgcat]

The media and democrats that attempt to hide and provide cover for this stuff for Joe and his family are despicable.

can I change my vote is still trending on all search engines.



https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1321245932890001411?s=20

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If the laptop mess is actually real, Giulliani waited WAAAAY to long to release that shit. people are so done with politics they don't want to dig through pages of stuff to find basically nothing. if they had something as simple as "$750", they could have made a difference. if i was gonna try to sway the election in the same way, i would have started releasing stuff around 9/14, enough time for it to build up steam and be easily consumed, while also understanding that people are going to vote early this election. sucks when people are incompetent.

 

[wartutor]

Due to the rights provided to you in the USA, which are the same rights you wish to get rid of you're allowed to talk bad about the country and its leaders and are free to leave. If the Democrats get their way no one will be able to disagree with them without facing harsh punishment and your freedom to travel will be taken away. So if you do want to get out of the country I advise you get out while you still can. No one here is going to miss you anyway so don't let that door hit your ass on the way out.

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I came across this infographic and thought I'd share it. It does question the Democrats claims and puts things into perspective regarding the new Supreme Court Justice. Democrats aren't on the side of liberty and freedom and are conniving, lying, manipulating scum.

I just cant wait for russia to cast their vote this year and shut all these democrats up. Well until the next impeachment hearings.

 

[crimpshrine]

If the laptop mess is actually real, Giulliani waited WAAAAY to long to release that shit. people are so done with politics they don't want to dig through pages of stuff to find basically nothing. if they had something as simple as "$750", they could have made a difference. if i was gonna try to sway the election in the same way, i would have started releasing stuff around 9/14, enough time for it to build up steam and be easily consumed, while also understanding that people are going to vote early this election. sucks when people are incompetent.

Many people are far from done, and I believe many have buyers remorse that voted early. All search engine trending seems to indicate that. Average people started looking into the laptop data/details after the last debate. All search engine trending reflects that also. Those are likely common people I would guess. And then having people like Adam Schiff making comments on things he has NO business commenting on as truth coupled with much of liberal media is a disservice to this country.

I believe this is what the pollsters will blame the inaccurate polling on when Trump is re-elected.

 

[omgcat]

Many people are far from done, and I believe many have buyers remorse that voted early. All search engine trending seems to indicate that. Average people started looking into the laptop data/details after the last debate. All search engine trending reflects that also. Those are likely common people I would guess. And then having people like Adam Schiff making comments on things he has NO business commenting on as truth coupled with much of liberal media is a disservice to this country.

I believe this is what the pollsters will blame the inaccurate polling on when Trump is re-elected.

you know buyers remorse cuts both ways right? it could just as likely be people who early voted for trump and then watched him make an ass of himself in 2 debates and a 60 minutes episode.

 

[wartutor]

If the laptop mess is actually real, Giulliani waited WAAAAY to long to release that shit. people are so done with politics they don't want to dig through pages of stuff to find basically nothing. if they had something as simple as "$750", they could have made a difference. if i was gonna try to sway the election in the same way, i would have started releasing stuff around 9/14, enough time for it to build up steam and be easily consumed, while also understanding that people are going to vote early this election. sucks when people are incompetent.

From the looks of it Giulliani waited to get him into office so he can be impeached and his vp can become pres. Only reason to wait this late.

 

[omgcat]

From the looks of it Giulliani waited to get him into office so he can be impeached and his vp can become pres. Only reason to wait this late.

i thought the GOP hated Harris more than Biden, I mean if Harris did become president, she gets to pick her own VP, so I'm not sure why they would bother. Like imagine they kick out Biden, then get Warren or Bernie or Buttigeg as VP instead.

 

[crimpshrine]

you know buyers remorse cuts both ways right? it could just as likely be people who early voted for trump and then watched him make an ass of himself in 2 debates and a 60 minutes episode.

LOL,

Not at all likely in my opinion.

And I am sure Biden will win PA with what he said that night.

I do not believe it is a coincidence that on 10/22/20 "joe biden laptop" started trending on all search engines.

And then moving forward from that point, can I change my vote started trending and started to GROW much larger in frequency.

I can follow signs and all signs point to it being democrats. Most people in general don't like things being hidden from them or feeling like they are being hoodwinked. And if they are just average people who don't have TDS, that can be quite a shock.

First you had social media censoring this whole thing which totally blew up in their faces.. LOL Then you have democrats bald face lying and saying its Russia Russia Russia again. Then when it got to the debates, average joe's (lol) got a glimpse at what is being spoken of and those types of people started searching it out. And when you have someone like this guy Tony Bobulinski who is putting himself out there for the average person to see how corrupt they are and everything else. People will straight up believe EVERYTHING then.

And certain news organizations basically ignoring this or parroting the russia aspect all over again is not helping them.

Guess who started trending in search engines today? Tony Bobulinski

 

[omgcat]

LOL,

Not at all likely in my opinion.

And I am sure Biden will win PA with what he said that night.

I do not believe it is a coincidence that on 10/22/20 "joe biden laptop" started trending on all search engines.

And then moving forward from that point, can I change my vote started trending and started to GROW much larger in frequency.

I can follow signs and all signs point to it being democrats. Most people in general don't like things being hidden from them or feeling like they are being hoodwinked. And if they are just average people who don't have TDS, that can be quite a shock.

First you had social media censoring this whole thing which totally blew up in their faces.. LOL Then you have democrats bald face lying and saying its Russia Russia Russia again. Then when it got to the debates, average joe's (lol) got a glimpse at what is being spoken of and those types of people started searching it out. And when you have someone like this guy Tony Bobulinski who is putting himself out there for the average person to see how corrupt they are and everything else. People will straight up believe EVERYTHING then.

And certain news organizations basically ignoring this or parroting the russia aspect all over again is not helping them.

Guess who started trending in search engines today? Tony Bobulinski

or people could be worried that COVID is fucking the USA, even in rural area's. for example:

this is a chart made from today. the entire rust belt is getting fucked by covid, it's no longer a "hoax" to people in rural areas like it was in March/April. Hospitals are being overrun, and people who have sick loved ones are pissed at the president for saying this thing is "contained"

here are three charts showing covid cases in rural areas at different times this year.

remember, rural voters over-all have more health complications, less health coverage, and less savings than non-rural people. perhaps people are pissed that the president is angling to kill ACA and remove protections for pre-existing conditions.

 

[crimpshrine]

or people could be worried that COVID is fucking the USA, even in rural area's. for example:

this is a chart made from today. the entire rust belt is getting fucked by covid, it's no longer a "hoax" to people in rural areas like it was in March/April. Hospitals are being overrun, and people who have sick loved ones are pissed at the president for saying this thing is "contained"

Yeah I don't think it is that.

I would put money on my logic. It all lines up.

And I don't see anyone saying Trump caused their loved one to die, outside the same democrats that lie through their teeth and democrats that hold up aid.

Where I am everyone blames the governor, not Trump. There are also ones ignoring any orders because they CAN'T AFFORD to live being shut down again. Neither side is blaming Trump that I can see.

Maybe they just need to wear 2 or 3 surgeons masks. I guess 1 was not cutting it.

 

[omgcat]

Yeah I don't think it is that.

I would put money on my logic. It all lines up.

And I don't see anyone saying Trump caused their loved one to die, outside the same democrats that lie through their teeth and democrats that hold up aid.

Where I am everyone blames the governor, not Trump. They are the ones ignoring any orders because they CAN'T AFFORD to live being shut down again.

Maybe they just need to wear 2 or 3 surgeons masks. I guess 1 was not cutting it.

democrats that hold up aid? you mean the democrats that run the senate and decided to push through a SCJ and then immediately close the senate til after the election? those democrats? that's right, mitch isn't a democrat, and he had no intentions of extending aid at all after the first stimulus. he said so himself, hell he even told the president to stop working with the dems in the house cause it wasn't going to happen.

 

[crimpshrine]

democrats that hold up aid? you mean the democrats that run the senate and decided to push through a SCJ and then immediately close the senate til after the election? those democrats?

Dude, they could have put through a 700 billion dollar package 2 months ago that focused on the PEOPLE, the schools, and small business. Dems wanted nothing to do with it.

 

[omgcat]

Dude, they could have put through a 700 billion dollar package 2 months ago that focused on the PEOPLE, the schools, and small business. Dems wanted nothing to do with it.

you mean the 700 billion stimulus package that would scrap the payroll tax and fuck up social security and still claw back that money after a year? i wonder why the dems didn't like that bill, can't quite put my finger on it. oh yeah, the GOP senators had zero intentions of negotiating anything other than liability protections for companies and more loans for companies. that's why it never went anywhere. maybe the democrats realized that PPP loans won't stop people from missing rent and food, and giving companies the ability to put their employees at risk is retarded too. but yeah, please tell me which side actually wants to help the average voter.

but yeah, people are worried about covid when hospitals are overflowing and situations like this are popping up everywhere:

 

[crimpshrine]

you mean the 700 billion stimulus package that would scrap the payroll tax and fuck up social security and still claw back that money after a year? i wonder why the dems didn't like that bill, can't quite put my finger on it. oh yeah, the GOP senators had zero intentions of negotiating anything other than liability protections for companies and more loans for companies. that's why it never went anywhere.

LOL the payroll tax was a separate thing, not part of what I was referring to.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...-obligations-light-ongoing-covid-19-disaster/

Trump did that because again the dems wanted so much shit in the package and it was going nowhere, I don't even remember now what their package was, 2.5 Trillion, 3? I can't even remember.

Even the dems had enough of Nancy Pelosi and her BS. You can live in your reality where everything is Trumps fault but many are not buying it anymore.

And we will soon see how accurate the polls were. I am guessing again, not accurate.

 

[omgcat]

Even the dems had enough of Nancy Pelosi and her BS.

The Heroes act was passed in the house back in may with almost full support (
207 Yea 14 Nay 12 Absent 90+% support from present members and 1 republican)
) from the Dems, it has been waiting for a vote in the senate for months. if the bill never had a chance, why won't mitch bring it up for a vote? which dems have had enough of pelosi?

some things the bill would do:

• provides FY2020 emergency supplemental appropriations to federal agencies;
• provides payments and other assistance to state, local, tribal, and territorial governments;
• provides additional direct payments of up to $1,200 per individual;
• expands paid sick days, family and medical leave, unemployment compensation, nutrition and food assistance programs, housing assistance, and payments to farmers;
• modifies and expands the Paycheck Protection Program, which provides loans and grants to small businesses and nonprofit organizations;
• establishes a fund to award grants for employers to provide pandemic premium pay for essential workers;
• expands several tax credits and deductions;
• provides funding and establishes requirements for COVID-19 testing and contact tracing;
• eliminates cost-sharing for COVID-19 treatments;
• extends and expands the moratorium on certain evictions and foreclosures; and
  
• requires employers to develop and implement infectious disease exposure control plans.

but yeah, tell me how much republicans actually care about normal people when they won't publically vote on this bill.

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Dude, they could have put through a 700 billion dollar package 2 months ago that focused on the PEOPLE, the schools, and small business. Dems wanted nothing to do with it.

i'm still curious which bill you were referring to that was 700Bn that actually would help people?

 

[Taleweaver]

I've got no need to fact check the claims because I was around to witness the validity of all of them after they happened.

... But you apparently weren't there to witness what lead up to those moments. Still: thanks for your honesty.

 

[wartutor]

or people could be worried that COVID is fucking the USA, even in rural area's. for example:

this is a chart made from today. the entire rust belt is getting fucked by covid, it's no longer a "hoax" to people in rural areas like it was in March/April. Hospitals are being overrun, and people who have sick loved ones are pissed at the president for saying this thing is "contained"

here are three charts showing covid cases in rural areas at different times this year. View attachment 231438View attachment 231439View attachment 231440

remember, rural voters over-all have more health complications, less health coverage, and less savings than non-rural people. perhaps people are pissed that the president is angling to kill ACA and remove protections for pre-existing conditions.

This is laughable. Most half educated citizens knew this would happen as soon as schools started back up and has nothing to do with democrats or republicans. Now they could of slowed the spread down if they kept sports and academic functions closed but hey people are not that smart...so maybe they didnt know that opening schools would cause that, fuck its a paradox. Damn its trumps fault again.