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For whom will/would you vote?

Poll closed Nov 4, 2020.
  1. Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican Party)

    33.1%
  2. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (Democratic Party)

    52.6%
  3. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen (Libertarian Party)

    2.5%
  4. Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker (Green Party)

    3.9%
  5. Other

    7.9%
  6. 646 voter(s)
  1. Foxi4

    Foxi4 Cynical Absurdist
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    The SCOTUS is an apolitical body, they get lifetime tenure specifically to ensure that exerting political pressure on them is not a huge concern. It's nonsensical to talk about partisanship when none of the justices are beholden to any political party. Last time a party *did exert political pressure* on the SCOTUS was under FDR, *it was the *Democrats*, and it was *with the threat of court-packing*, for the purposes of pushing through the New Deal without having to worry about the Supreme Court putting some of its provisions into question. Everybody can see what's happening here - some people may have short memories, I don't.

    Say it how it is - you don't like the fact that the court is split in favour of conservative values for the first time in decades, rather than in favour of progressive ones. That much is true, but it's not a matter of partisanship - justices are split on ideological grounds, not by party alignment. I wouldn't even say that the court is split to an extent that warrants concern either since Justice Roberts has proven to be a wild card. It's 5-4 at best now that Barret replaced Ginsburg.

    The actual reason why this is a problem for the Democratic party is that they've gotten mighty comfortable with using the SCOTUS to enshrine "rights" that are not at all enshrined by the Constitution, as opposed to using the far more difficult path of amending the Constitution as necessary. Liberal-leaning judges tend to treat it as a "living document" and adhere to the "spirit of the law" or some such nonsense, conservative ones tend to be textualists who are only concerned by what is and what is not written. There's already a system in place that enables changes to the Constitution and the SCOTUS should've never been used to bypass it.

    If the Democrats want to claim that the court became partisan, they will have to show some examples of cases where such partisanship was evident - Barret was only just confirmed and they're already talking about it like it's a done deal with zero evidence. As for the legality of the move, of course Congress can do it - I've outlined that it has in the past, on multiple occasions. I was saying that there are no signs that the court "needs fixing" and that such a move has no support amongst the citizens - it's 100% political and, ironically, partisan to do so. The Democratic party doesn't like the result of the game, so they're going to change the rules - same modus operandi as usual. They won't be answering for their actions to a tribunal, but they will be answering to the American people. I certainly hope they won't make that mistake. Last time they were warned that they'll regret acting recklessly with American institutions "sooner than they think", and I think McConnel proved that he was correct in his estimation.
     
  2. omgcat

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    The republicans have stepped over a line, it is now politically acceptable to re-balance the court, more than 60% of Americans wanted the senate to wait until after inauguration day to appoint another SCJ. Unlike with FDR, it is now a popular opinion that the court should be re-balanced due to the bad faith the GOP has shown. for it to be possible a few things would need to happen, like the dems taking the senate and the presidency which isn't a guarantee, but don't conflate the two scenarios, things are vastly different now. You're flattening 150 years of complex political maneuvering, this is not an apples to apples comparison. people's support of re-balancing the court was based on DJT not appointing a SCJ until after January 20th, but that didn't happen, so people are ok with the re-balance.
     
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  3. Foxi4

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    Show me evidence of that. The latest polling I've seen showed that 54% of respondents were against packing the court, 32% were for it and the remainder had no opinion, IIRC. It's not rebalancing the court, this is another Democrat trick - changing the language used so that an egregious action seems more palatable. It's stacking it in their favour - we have a term for that and it's court packing. That's what it means, that's what it always meant.
     
  4. LumInvader

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    Note r0achtheunsavory's repeated references of "you," "your," "them," and "they" in a continuation of his debunked association fallacy, which underscores my original point.
    According to the above association fallacy, the below link contains a list of trained marxists:

    List of Republicans who oppose the Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...e_the_Donald_Trump_2020_presidential_campaign

    :rofl2:
     
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  5. r0achtheunsavory

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    Not even worth replying to those people. They're probably bots because all they do is spam copy and paste garbage propaganda from the television. Everyone knows everything on TV is fake and a lie, but they keep pushing the scam pretending it has any validity like nobody knows what they're doing.

    They're spamming literal CIA propaganda from the TV while pretending to be 'anti-establishment'. These people are so braindead it's painful to even watch.

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. UltraSUPRA

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    Human rights don't exist.
     
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  7. r0achtheunsavory

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    The entire foundation of so called "human rights" was people recognizing rights "granted to them via God". But the left is mostly composed of godless sodomites, devil worshippers, and other lunatics, so them talking about human rights and trying to twist the definition into something to fit their narrative is a laughable joke.

    If you push the narrative that there is no God and society and western civilization in general are not founded upon things like the ten commandments and all that stuff, then basically anything goes, there are no rights, and the government can basically just murder you for fun if they want, or put you in a Roman colosseum with lions.
     
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  8. LumInvader

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    Says the guy who uses the Unibomber and Alex Jones as reference material:
    Says the guy who claims election fraud:
    Says the guy who claims Epstein's island was an Israeli government operation:
    'nuff said.
     
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  9. r0achtheunsavory

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    Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell are Israeli Mossad agents. Nobody even disputes it. It's not required for fake propaganda outlets like CNN to "fact check" objective reality for something to be true. Ghislaine Maxwell's father Robert Maxwell was also an uncontested Israeli spy.

    He was out on a boat and wound up dead. They claim he "must have just fallen off the boat and drowned", but 99% chance somebody whacked him, as is the case for any spy that winds up dying under some type of mysterious circumcstance. Just like Epstein seems to have vanished from the face of the earth under a similar, bogus story.

    This is how government works. Instead of Israeli building a bunch of tanks and airplanes to defend their Zionazi, rogue terror state, they just spend 1/100th the money sending spies to the US to blackmail US politicians into supporting infinite wars in the Middle East that do absolutely nothing to serve American interests.
     
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  10. wartutor

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    Wtf do they get their percentages at. I dont ever remember being asked nor do i know anyone that has been asked. Asking a group of 100 people that is of 90% democrat dont make up 60% of the entire population quit trying to speak for everyone with "fake news/poles"
     
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  11. LumInvader

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    Is MSM wrong to fact check QAnon?
     
  12. Master X

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    Gotta love the hilarity of someone claiming that people are spammy bots, when the vast majority of their own posts are in this very topic.
    Not just that, but this topic is also the home of your earliest posts.

    You join a gaming forum and spend pretty much all your time in the topic about politics. Are you paid by the post, or did you somehow get banned from The Donald or Free Republic?
     
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    It has to be.
     
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  14. shamzie

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    He's also full of shit, not a single country in Europe is Marxist. Some have socialised health service. That's about the extent of it. Gets so tiresome replying to their lies.
     
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  15. gregory-samba

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    Due to the rights provided to you in the USA, which are the same rights you wish to get rid of you're allowed to talk bad about the country and its leaders and are free to leave. If the Democrats get their way no one will be able to disagree with them without facing harsh punishment and your freedom to travel will be taken away. So if you do want to get out of the country I advise you get out while you still can. No one here is going to miss you anyway so don't let that door hit your ass on the way out.

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    I came across this infographic and thought I'd share it. It does question the Democrats claims and puts things into perspective regarding the new Supreme Court Justice. Democrats aren't on the side of liberty and freedom and are conniving, lying, manipulating scum.

    [​IMG]
     
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    so instead of disproving any of the democrats points the image is just pure whataboutism. guess that didnt go as well as youve planned, lol
     
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    What didn't go as planned? I pointed out how the Democrats are the ones dividing the country and I wasn't replying to rebuke anyone's statements. Are you stoned, drunk or do your comprehension skills suck that badly? There's no "what about ism", there's simply "look at why these people are scum".
     
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    * boycotting isn't the same as not showing up, unless they were tasked with stuff. This part is grasping for straws.
    (FFS, man. "democrats not showing up at an inauguration" is an argument a 12-year old should have outgrown)
    * fake news. The washington post REPORTED that campaigns against Trump were launched (source). They didn't declare shit. And even if you swap words, the answer is still "yes, absolutely. Because he insisted "on maintaining ownership of his luxury hotel and golf course business while in office" "
    * Trump again. This was when he divided congress to the point that republicans in congress literally allowed blatant corruption
    * once again: Trump. It's your authorities who had all the evidence that Russia collided in the 2016 elections, but Trump blatantly dismissed it.

    Yeah...think for yourselve, indeed. Did you even bother to factcheck any of that, or did you just copy-pasted that picture from a random guy with a Russian accent? :rolleyes:
     
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    I've got no need to fact check the claims because I was around to witness the validity of all of them after they happened.
     
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