[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

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For whom will/would you vote?


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You mean like the screenshots of the actual emails, photos of Hunter Biden with a crack pipe in his mouth, and the subpoena the FBI served to seize the Biden laptop that the NYPost published today?
There's no evidence this story is accurate. There has been zero authentication. Until then, it's a nonstory.

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But the Atlanta publishing an article on Trump based on anonymous source that claimed he said bad things about our troops, is cool. And at the same time dozens of named people there, said it never happened.

Yep, not surprised at the hypocrisy.

I bet you won't hear Biden state it never happened. (Again)

His campaign would only say it's not true because it was not listed on his schedule for that day. LOL
The source is only anonymous to us, not those who posted the story. They authenticated the story.
 
I don't know what happened to 'racism isn't a joke, but okay.
Man, it's such a damning thing to reference a joke made by a black podcast. But hey, when you make claims that we should kick the rapist Mexicans out and that we should send nuclear missiles into hurricanes to stop them, people can give that a pass.

I sincerely wish that the American people will one day realize that the two party system is a joke that works entirely against their self-interest. I wish they'd stop treating politics like it's a football game, and that "MUH TEAM" is infallible. Because of this, the two parties use stupid societal problems and identity politics to keep us divided while they're all in a backroom together shaking hands and smoking cigars as they count the billions of dollars that they swindle out of us. Again, I don't like Biden. I'd much prefer someone that's actually progressive and could maybe bring us forward as a whole, but people here fear that because they gobble up whatever is fed to them by the ones who are making too much money off them to allow that to happen.
 
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IT workers at Facebook and Twitter are NOT going to like the next week LOL.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1316457329592881152?s=20

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And there it is. Vote for Biden, or you ain't black!

Just call him a racist scumbag and be on your way, lifes easier that way.


IT workers at Facebook and Twitter are NOT going to like the next week LOL.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1316457329592881152?s=20

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The same people that will be defending this, with their "huhhh so what disinformation hoaxes TeRmS aNd CoNdItIoNs etc are the same people that bathed themselves in the Russia hoax for the last 4 years, they're complete hypocrites. They didn't say a word about Twitter and Facebook not censoring all that disinformation and hoax bullshit because it suited their political agenda.
 
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Just call him a racist scumbag and be on your way, lifes easier that way.
Yeah, life is easier when you stick your fingers in your ears and make up your own fantasy world to live in. Finally, something we can agree on. You sound like a lunatic. Like, I'm actually laughing now because of your absurdity. "You're racist because you don't believe the Nordic white male is the uber species!" Get out of here you Nazi apologist, hahahaha!
 
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The same people that will be defending this, with their "huhhh so what disinformation hoaxes TeRmS aNd CoNdItIoNs etc are the same people that bathed themselves in the Russia hoax for the last 4 years, they're complete hypocrites. They didn't say a word about Twitter and Facebook not censoring all that disinformation and hoax bullshit because it suited them political agenda.
Except that wasn't a hoax and the impeachment was legit. But you believe whatever fantasy narrative you want. Also, something that's hilarious to me is that these tech companies usually want a republican president because they make more money by paying less in taxes, and you mandy-pandy conservatives don't realize this. There's not a political agenda being pushed, you snowflake. Sorry that Trump has been demonstrably terrible time and time again, and conspiracy theories and hoaxes are bad for business.

Is this still about the Republican led investigation that found nothing on Biden, but in fact found evidence against Rick Perry instead?
Yes, because Trump supporters are getting incredibly desperate now. A republican can get on TV or some garbage rag like NY Post and make any false claim they want, and these people will believe it because they want so badly for this weird narrative they've created to be true, and for reality to not be. It's sad and completely delusional. I'm seriously convinced these people have a mental disorder. Y'know, the republicans coined "Trump derangement syndrome" as a derogative toward people who are against Trump, but I think it really applies more to his constituency. Like, they're crazier than a shithouse rat. It's ridiculous. They make me think of an abused spouse who has come to believe that they deserve the beatings.
 
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Man, it's such a damning thing to reference a joke made by a black podcast. But hey, when you make claims that we should kick the rapist Mexicans out and that we should send nuclear missiles into hurricanes to stop them, people can give that a pass.

I sincerely wish that the American people will one day realize that the two party system is a joke that works entirely against their self-interest. I wish they'd stop treating politics like it's a football game, and that "MUH TEAM" is infallible. Because of this, the two parties use stupid societal problems and identity politics to keep us divided while they're all in a backroom together shaking hands and smoking cigars as they count the billions of dollars that they swindle out of us. Again, I don't like Biden. I'd much prefer someone that's actually progressive and could maybe bring us forward as a whole, but people here fear that because they gobble up whatever is fed to them by the ones who are making too much money off them to allow that to happen.


until ranked choice voting is allowed in all elections, the two party system is a fundamental part of first past the post. it is mathematically impossible to have a 3+ party system in FPTP.

 
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until ranked choice voting is allowed in all elections, the two party system is a fundamental part of first past the post. it is mathematically impossible to have a 3+ party system in FPTP.
Yeah, that's why I'm calling for the dismantling and reconstruction of our system from the ground up. It desperately needs it.
 
Yeah, that's why I'm calling for the dismantling and reconstruction of our system from the ground up. It desperately needs it.

well we don't have to tear the whole thing down, states can use RCV if it is voted for by their constituents. for example Maine is already using RCV this election.
 
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well we don't have to tear the whole thing down, states can use RCV if it is voted for by their constituents. for example Maine is already using RCV this election.
It's a step forward. I know I probably won't see any significant change within my lifetime. I think if the electoral college were done away with, I could be satisfied for the time being. That doesn't change the fact that capitalism is more important than human life in our democracy, though, and at the end of the day, the dollar is all that means anything to politicians. It's why they had to get rid of Bernie. He was talking some dangerous talk that our corporate overlords didn't like. Our system is designed to keep the poor poor, and the rich rich.
 
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It's a step forward. I know I probably won't see any significant change within my lifetime. I think if the electoral college were done away with, I could be satisfied for the time being. That doesn't change the fact that capitalism is more important than human life in our democracy, though, and at the end of the day, the dollar is all that means anything to politicians. It's why they had to get rid of Bernie. He was talking some dangerous talk that our corporate overlords didn't like. Our system is designed to keep the poor poor, and the rich rich.


the other way to fix the system is add RCV from the bottom up. you get better candidates at all levels if yous start local and work your way up.
 
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the other way to fix the system is add RCV from the bottom up. you get better candidates at all levels if yous start local and work your way up.
You're right. Local politics influence the federal. The issue is that voters don't educate themselves on candidate policy, though, and they just give their vote to the party that they support. It's even worse in small towns where favoritism runs rampant. This is what I meant by people thinking the party they support is infallible, and for whatever reason, they think if you don't support one you inherently support the other and that somehow speaks about your character just because. It's exactly like a sports game, except people don't seem to realize that the person they vote for has the power to control their livelihood.

Also, I'm just gonna leave this here.
 
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so i finally took the time to read into the hunter Biden stuff and that's a lot of red flags.

https://www.businessinsider.com/new...-disinformation-2020-10?utm_source=reddit.com

some highlights
  • The Post's report said that an unidentified computer-repair-shop owner discovered the emails and other compromising material about Hunter Biden after an unidentified person dropped off a water-damaged laptop last year to be repaired but never picked it up.

  • The repair shop owner was later identified as John Paul Mac Isaac, an avid Trump supporter who told several reporters who tracked him down that Trump's impeachment was a "sham." Isaac also did not have a clear grasp on the timeline of events that he initially described to the Post.
 
The New York Post inadvertently identified the original source of its dubious Hunter Biden story
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-may-have-identified-hunter-biden-source-2020-10
  • The New York Post inadvertently revealed details identifying the original source of a dubious story it published Wednesday about a "smoking-gun email" between Hunter Biden and a Ukrainian official while he was on the board of the natural-gas company Burisma Holdings.
  • Two photos published in the story seem to point to a specific Mac repair shop in the Trolley Square neighborhood of Wilmington, Delaware, owned by a man named John Paul Mac Isaac.
  • In an interview with several reporters who tracked him down, Isaac confirmed he was the source of the story but couldn't get his facts straight when describing his recollection of events outlined in the Post's story, The Daily Beast reported.
  • The article contained a number of red flags that raised questions about its authenticity and sourcing as soon as it was published, and it gained little traction among more reputable outlets.

An explosive New York Post story that's sending Trumpworld into a frenzy is riddled with holes and red flags
https://www.businessinsider.com/new...den-giuliani-red-flags-disinformation-2020-10
  • Trumpworld flew into a frenzy on Wednesday after the New York Post published a report purporting to show a "smoking-gun email" featuring Hunter Biden communicating with a Ukrainian official about meeting with his father, Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee.
  • The Post's story had several red flags and holes that raise questions about its authenticity. The most glaring questions are whether the emails described in the story are legitimate, how they were uncovered, and how the Post obtained them.
  • The Post's report said that an unidentified computer-repair-shop owner discovered the emails and other compromising material about Hunter Biden after an unidentified person dropped off a water-damaged laptop last year to be repaired but never picked it up.
  • The repair shop owner was later identified as John Paul Mac Isaac, an avid Trump supporter who told several reporters who tracked him down that Trump's impeachment was a "sham." Isaac also did not have a clear grasp on the timeline of events that he initially described to the Post.
  • The Post said it learned of the emails' existence last month through Steve Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, and obtained them through Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal lawyer.
  • Both men have routinely pushed conspiracy theories about the Biden campaign's ties to Ukraine, and Giuliani met last year with a Ukrainian official who was sanctioned in September and accused of acting as a Russian agent.
  • In all, one expert said, the way the story was published appears to showcase "a standard tactic in disinformation operations."
:shit::whip:
 
so i finally took the time to read into the hunter Biden stuff and that's a lot of red flags.

https://www.businessinsider.com/new...-disinformation-2020-10?utm_source=reddit.com

some highlights
  • The Post's report said that an unidentified computer-repair-shop owner discovered the emails and other compromising material about Hunter Biden after an unidentified person dropped off a water-damaged laptop last year to be repaired but never picked it up.

  • The repair shop owner was later identified as John Paul Mac Isaac, an avid Trump supporter who told several reporters who tracked him down that Trump's impeachment was a "sham." Isaac also did not have a clear grasp on the timeline of events that he initially described to the Post.
You beat me to the punch by 60 seconds! Hmph!

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Sure, and that is why his campaign was only willing to go as far as to say it was not on his schedule. So it is untrue.

Nothing from Biden directly.

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