Hacking SX Modchip firmware has been dumped

[PiracyForTheMasses]

You clearly forgot the fact that in the USA, DMCA does not allow you to bypass encryption to make your backup. This modchip bypasses encryption and is thus illegal. There is no exception for video game consoles.

He also forgets that TX are copyright infringing pirates. SXOS contains Nintendo code. In the future TX will most likely face more legal action brought against them.

 

[weatMod]

He also forgets that TX are copyright infringing pirates. SXOS contains Nintendo code. In the future TX will most likely face more legal action brought against them.

i mentioned that it contains headers to load xci's
the poster forgets that the ONLY purpose of the device has to be for circumvention
and these chips have other purposes besides loading backups 'they allow for homebrew and for alternate OS's to be loaded so they are not illegal

 

[Dimensional]

i mentioned that it contains headers to load xci's
the poster forgets that the ONLY purpose of the device has to be for circumvention
and these chips have other purposes besides loading backups 'they allow for homebrew and for alternate OS's to be loaded so they are not illegal

Being able to load homebrew does not absolve the device and company of all illegal acts. The device was marketed as a piracy device and homebrew capabilities were added afterwards, not to mention it's being sold for a profit. The marketing and the selling are clear indicators that can not be thrown away simply because "It allows homebrew". Homebrew is not the ultimate Get out of Jail excuse.

Can you provide the page where it says they said it was only used for circumvention, and nothing about playing backups?

 

[weatMod]

Being able to load homebrew does not absolve the device and company of all illegal acts. The device was marketed as a piracy device and homebrew capabilities were added afterwards, not to mention it's being sold for a profit. The marketing and the selling are clear indicators that can not be thrown away simply because "It allows homebrew". Homebrew is not the ultimate Get out of Jail excuse.

Can you provide the page where it says they said it was only used for circumvention, and nothing about playing backups?

not how the DMCA works, if the device has legitimate uses then it is allowed
the chips have uses besides backups , they allow users to load alternate OS's

 

[Flying Scotsman]

not how the DMCA works, if the device has legitimate uses then it is allowed
the chips have uses besides backups , they allow users to load alternate OS's

Dragon Injector had legitimate uses and did not involve piracy and Ninty still sent their pack of overpaid suits after the dev. Legitimate uses includes loading Android for example.

If an open source mod chip was available - they'd attempt to take it down because it circumvents device security, just like Dragon Injector did.

 

[PhyChris]

Am I looking at a dump or code leak?

 

[mrjoshuaco]

Looks like karma won't go easy on Xecuter. That's actually good.

I had XCI, emunand and cheats first as a result of pay-for solutions. You don't have to like TX or Gateway. Hell, I don't much like them. But they've certainly added features that may or may not have been made by OSS devs w/o having been added to the pay solutions first.

Disagree all you like, but no one wins with less choice, even closed sourced solutions.

 

[slaphappygamer]

Am I looking at a dump or code leak?

A dump

 

[64bitmodels]

This is nice but at the same time its not like any softmods are gonna come from this sooo :/

 

[weatMod]

Dragon Injector had legitimate uses and did not involve piracy and Ninty still sent their pack of overpaid suits after the dev. Legitimate uses includes loading Android for example.

If an open source mod chip was available - they'd attempt to take it down because it circumvents device security, just like Dragon Injector did.

yes this is true
they use the system to harass people and file bogus suits against them because they known they don't have money to fight it
but those are civil suits
anyone can file a civil suit to harass someone it doesn't mean they are going to win
they can make claims and get criminal cases filed too it doesn't mean they have merit

 

[hellionz]

waiting for USB support and XCI support to Atmosphere....

 

[chaoskagami]

not how the DMCA works, if the device has legitimate uses then it is allowed
the chips have uses besides backups , they allow users to load alternate OS's

You're the one who doesn't seem to understand the law. Circumvention tools and the act of circumvention is by default, not permitted. Some exemptions are permitted for very narrow use cases, and then some general exemptions are made for other purposes such as smartphones. The supreme court has stated on the record that video game consoles are not general purpose computing devices, so the jailbreaking and interoperability exemptions don't apply. In other words, hacking your Switch is illegal except for very specific purposes (an example: hacking it to use the Xbox Adaptive controller if you're physically impaired is likely legal. If you're doing it to find bugs to report to Nintendo, it's also legal. It's also probably legal to hack it to fix those bugs yourself. Note that when I say bug, I am referring purely to a software malfunction. A lack of a "feature" is not a bug.)

Regarding "backups" - they must be made from a physical device. You are permitted to keep only one copy at a time across all your devices. You are not allowed to utilize this backup as a substitute for the original media unless the original media is damaged, destroyed or rendered inoperable. This is the law. Yes, it is stupid.

Moreover, as much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news - any USB loader is a circumvention device by definition. The DMCA might permit circumvention for some purposes, but it doesn't permit sharing of information on how to circumvent or production of tools for the purposes of circumvention. Nintendo had every right to shut down DragonInjector. They likely did so because it was a for-profit venture, even if the board and files were FOSS.

The main reasons Nintendo hasn't gone after Atmosphere are A) It contains effectively none of Nintendo's intellectual property B) it provides no facility to circumvent copyright protections on games without 3rd party patches they themselves do not endorse and C) They're not making any money off of it, so Nintendo is unlikely to be able to extract anything in a lawsuit.

 

[weatMod]

You're the one who doesn't seem to understand the law. Circumvention tools and the act of circumvention is by default, not permitted. Some exemptions are permitted for very narrow use cases, and then some general exemptions are made for other purposes such as smartphones. The supreme court has stated on the record that video game consoles are not general purpose computing devices, so the jailbreaking and interoperability exemptions don't apply. In other words, hacking your Switch is illegal except for very specific purposes (an example: hacking it to use the Xbox Adaptive controller if you're physically impaired is likely legal. If you're doing it to find bugs to report to Nintendo, it's also legal. It's also probably legal to hack it to fix those bugs yourself. Note that when I say bug, I am referring purely to a software malfunction. A lack of a "feature" is not a bug.)

Regarding "backups" - they must be made from a physical device. You are permitted to keep only one copy at a time across all your devices. You are not allowed to utilize this backup as a substitute for the original media unless the original media is damaged, destroyed or rendered inoperable. This is the law. Yes, it is stupid.

Moreover, as much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news - any USB loader is a circumvention device by definition. The DMCA might permit circumvention for some purposes, but it doesn't permit sharing of information on how to circumvent or production of tools for the purposes of circumvention. Nintendo had every right to shut down DragonInjector. They likely did so because it was a for-profit venture, even if the board and files were FOSS.

The main reasons Nintendo hasn't gone after Atmosphere are A) It contains effectively none of Nintendo's intellectual property B) it provides no facility to circumvent copyright protections on games without 3rd party patches they themselves do not endorse and C) They're not making any money off of it, so Nintendo is unlikely to be able to extract anything in a lawsuit.

game consoles are still a "grey area" and there is currently no case law

and what you described about atmosphere is 100% the same as dragon injector aside from them charging money

 

[pcwizard7]

you can still play copied games in atmos and sxos are not suppling the copied games

 

[OrGoN3]

i mentioned that it contains headers to load xci's
the poster forgets that the ONLY purpose of the device has to be for circumvention
and these chips have other purposes besides loading backups 'they allow for homebrew and for alternate OS's to be loaded so they are not illegal

Wrong perspective. Their ONLY purpose is to circumvent the Switch's encryption, whether it be for homebrew or otherwise. Still against DMCA.

 

[m0mij1]

Wrong perspective. Their ONLY purpose is to circumvent the Switch's encryption, whether it be for homebrew or otherwise. Still against DMCA.

Well not only that, but breaches Nintendo's terms of use as well.

 

[Flying Scotsman]

waiting for USB support and XCI support to Atmosphere....

USB support - maybe but it would have to have more uses than for piracy.

XCI support - most likely not.

TX included leaked Switch SDK code related to XCI emulation into SX which is why Ninty has decided to target SX as well as the mod chips (because it includes their copyright code. Also means 1 lawsuit for 2 "products"). If Atmosphere included XCI emulation, just like TX did, it would most likely push Atmosphere from a grey area to one where Ninty could easily send a C&D to the project or worse a lawsuit.

Atmosphere is open source so you could add it yourself but don't expect it to last long in public. This is also why Atmosphere does not include sig patches (because Ninty would shut the entire project down within minutes).

 

[RoboSerpent]

So what are we waiting on for these clone chips?

 

[pcwizard7]

So what are we waiting on for these clone chips?

it will take time for them to go through the code and take how the patched and makio switch is hacked. is achieve. then mend it to work with hekate/atmos.

a flasher tool is also needed to overwrite the current chips

a similar/tweak design for the actual clone chips

things take time

 

[weatMod]

Well not only that, but breaches Nintendo's terms of use as well.

EULA's are a joke and not legally binding