Bernie Sanders drops out of Presidential Race

[Waygeek]

Money machine goes brrrr, @FAST6191 - what could go wrong? As for her election, despite the clear advantage you've described, she was still the underdog in that particular case, so there's a degree of luck and populism in that particular mix too. Dumb luck, you could say.

Or not any of those things, maybe people in the real world, that is to say, people who don't hang on gaming boards, want a more progressive representative.

Occam's razor and all that.

 

[Foxi4]

Trudeau is not a president.

My bad, Prime Minister. I forgot that Canada is still a part of the Commonwealth - unlike the US they never quite took off the colonial shackles, I'll make a correction.

Good job skating over the fact that the US can have, and has had, presidents from any walk of life.

I most certainly don't disqualify people based on their background - I disqualify AOC on the grounds of her being an idiot.

Trump is incredibly unfunny. He has not an ounce of wit in his body. He is the anti-Oscar Wilde.

Different strokes for different folks - I find him hilarious, for good and for bad reasons.

And let's not bring up cringe compilations, Trump is prime fodder for those.

That's fair.

"Trump wears his flaws on his sleeve."

lmfao no, he's the single most defensive and thin skinned person on the planet. He has literally never acknowledged fault.

What are you talking about? He's a very stable genius.

Or not any of those things, maybe people in the real world, that is to say, people who don't hang on gaming boards, want a more progressive representative.

Occam's razor and all that.

Sure, you go with that.

 

[Waygeek]

I most certainly don't disqualify people based on their background - I disqualify AOC on the grounds of her being an idiot.

Trump's got four years and he's a blithering moron who doesn't even know what lands he presides over.

Pretty sure she knows about Puerto Rico at least. So she's automatically more qualified.

Obama was a lawyer, Clinton was a career politician. You know any lawyers or career politicians? Least trustworthy individuals on the planet. Then they had Bush, less said there the better.

Nothing wrong with a person who is inherantly good but needs time to learn the ropes. In fact it's a better proposition in general.

 

[Foxi4]

Trump's got four years and he's a blithering moron who doesn't even know what lands he presides over.

I think people grossly underestimate him. He's a vain womanizer, his areas of expertise are very narrow and he has a penchant for talking about things he should have no business talking about, but so far his job performance is, at the very least, acceptable. That, and as an on-looker watching the show from a distance, I can't deny that the entertainment value far surpasses expectations. I certainly find him preferable to a potential Biden presidency, since realistically that's who he's up against.

EDIT: Responding to the updated post.

Pretty sure she knows about Puerto Rico at least. So she's automatically more qualified.

Obama was a lawyer, Clinton was a career politician. You know any lawyers or career politicians? Least trustworthy individuals on the planet. Then they had Bush, less said there the better.

Nothing wrong with a person who is inherantly good but needs time to learn the ropes. In fact it's a better proposition in general.

Once again, I'm not opposed to people with no political background taking up office. Most people in my political camp build shrines for their Reagan portraits. My problem with AOC is that she's demonstrably stupid, based on her world view and the various political positions she's taken over the years. AOC doesn't have to "learn the ropes", she knows the ropes now, and I want her as far away from them as humanly possible.

On the bright side, our dislike of Clinton and Obama seems to be a unifying factor here - I wasn't a huge fan of them either.

 

[Ignint]

I'm just posting to get my 5 messages in.... So ill just make a general comment towards the process.

Very weird that out of all of america biden and trump are the people we choose to run for president...

 

[Waygeek]

I think people grossly underestimate him.

My problem with AOC is that she's demonstrably stupid

You live in a mirror universe of your very own.

This world's reality is vastly different.

Mind you, you do hail from a place that has declared a good third of its' territory 'LGBT free' areas. It's not really surprising such a place produces radicalized right individuals.

*Snip!*

 

[Foxi4]

You live in a mirror universe of your very own.

This world's reality is vastly different.

Mind you, you do hail from a place that has declared a good third of its' territory 'LGBT free' areas. It's not really surprising such a place produces radicalized right individuals.

That's funny. My political stances are *extremely* unpopular in my home country, my beliefs are very much disconnected from my heritage. You seem to be putting all conservatives into one basket, that's a big mistake considering the various flavours of conservatism are very different from each other. It's a known obstacle for many left-of-center people, so don't take it as a jab at you, this is a common problem.

As far as I'm concerned, there are effectively no viable right wing parties in Poland - there's only the progressive, socialist "left" and the traditionalist, socialist "right", the difference between the two being that one worships the state whereas the other worships catholicism. In reality both sides of the political aisle are mere hiccups of the post-communist, post-PPR order. Not a single mainstream politician in the country even comes close to following the same philosophy of laissez-faire economics and maximised liberty that I hold dear - they're two sides of the same statist coin, which is to be expected from a political scene still recovering from the destructive effects of communism.

In any case, missed your shot there. You could've just asked what my political orientation was - I would've happily told you I'm a libertarian, or as I call myself, a "lolbertarian", which in my mind has the same goals, but pursues them via the path of maximum chaos and laughs. So far the last couple of years in American politics have been a source of endless entertainment, so it's a great time to be me.

 

[Waygeek]

That's funny. My political stances are *extremely* unpopular in my home country

Nah.

https://www.fairobserver.com/region...ight-alt-right-nationalism-europe-news-13241/

In any case, missed your shot there. You could've just asked what my political orientation was - I would've happily told you I'm a libertarian

I don't ask radicalized right their political leanings because they've been telling the same lie since 2014, as if there's a .txt file they share around with quotes to copy and paste; 'actually quite left', 'libertarian', 'centrist' all feature. They're all lies. Go to a rally defending some racist's statue in the states, you won't find one person admitting what they are. All part of the obfuscation, the fact they 'think' they are cleverer than everyone else.

or as I call myself, a "lolbertarian", which in my mind has the same goals, but pursues them via the path that of maximum chaos and laughs. So far the last couple of years in American politics have been a source of endless entertainment, so it's a great time to be me.

Said without a hint of embarrassment.

"Young children dying alone from mistreatment in detention centres is tres LULZ!"

 

[Foxi4]

Nah.

https://www.fairobserver.com/region...ight-alt-right-nationalism-europe-news-13241/

Not sure what that proves, exactly. I don't identify with that party or its political program.

I don't ask radicalized right their political leanings because they've been telling the same lie since 2014, as if there's a .txt file they share around with quotes to copy and paste; 'actually quite left', 'libertarian', 'centrist' all feature. They're all lies. Go to a rally defending some racist's statue in the states, you won't find one person admitting what they are. All part of the obfuscation, the fact they 'think' they are cleverer than everyone else.

You're clearly unfamiliar with what's considered "conservative" across the world. Your average Tory has very little in common with a Republican, for instance. In fact, the interests of Republicans or Tories are often diametrically opposed to those of libertarians. You can feign ignorance though, that doesn't bother me.

Said without a hint of embarrassment.

Not one molecule of it.

"Young children dying alone from mistreatment in detention centres is tres LULZ!"

Your words, not mine.

 

[Waygeek]

Not sure what that proves, exactly. I don't identify with that party or its political program.

*parties, and I doubt that very much. "I don't align myself with them. I just sound exactly like them."

You're clearly unfamiliar with what's considered "conservative" across the world.

Hardly, I would be conservative in a number of senses (there, something an alt-righter has literally never said). That doesn't include hating an intelligent young woman because I'm threatened by them.

You can feign ignorance though, that doesn't bother me.

Hey. That's my line.

Your words, not mine.

Yours are not required, you just called something funny, young children dying alone in detention centres is literally a large part of that something.

 

[Foxi4]

*parties, and I doubt that very much. "I don't align myself with them. I just sound exactly like them."

Hardly, I would be conservative in a number of senses (there, something an alt-righter has literally never said). That doesn't include hating in intelligent young women because I'm threatened by them.

Hey. That's my line.

Yours are not required, you just called something funny, young children dying alone in detention centres is literally a large part of that something.

I'm not entirely sure how putting an emphasis on civil liberties, shrinking the government (by which I mean both its physical size and its influence on everyday life), relaxed business regulations and individualism makes me the big bad here, but whatever floats your boat, buddy. It's nice to hear that you're conservative in many aspects of your life - that's a good thing, hold on to that.

 

[Waygeek]

I'm not entirely sure how putting an emphasis on civil liberties, shrinking the government (by which I mean both its physical size and its influence on everyday life), relaxed business regulations and individualism makes me the big bad here, but whatever floats your boat, buddy. It's nice to hear that you're conservative in many aspects of your life - that's a good thing, hold on to that.

Again, this skating over being threatened by AOC and her achievements in a short space of time, and not giving a shit about the death of young children in detention centres. Skating over it with things I didn't ask.

 

[Foxi4]

Again, this skating over being threatened by AOC and her achievements in a short space of time, and not giving a shit about the death of young children in detention centres. Skating over it with things I didn't ask.

I'm not particularly threatened by AOC, her policies are non-starters and she'll end up exactly as Sanders did - unproductively coasting on a government position well into old age. That is, if she continues being re-elected by her constituency for whatever asinine reason. I understand that you're fanboying for her hard, but I really don't find her, or her achievements, impressive in any way.

As for kids in detention centers, the fact that you think a libertarian approves of detention (as in, the opposite of freedom, the thing we fanboy over) of young children (who are not legally liable for the wrongdoings of their guardians) by the state (the thing libertarians are such huge fans of) tells me all I need to know. I don't need to address this point - it's self-defeating as it is.

You do you, have fun and believe what you want to believe. That's the thing about libertarians - I don't particularly care what you do in your corner, I have my corner to worry about. There's no reason for you to get tilted just because I dislike your heroine who wants to further inflate the size and scope of the federal government, which is the inevitable direct consequence of her political objectives.

 

[Waygeek]

AOC has achieved much more than you ever will so, if you're not impressed by her, you must be a huge disappointment to yourself.

You're not libertarian. You are radicalized right. All the proof required was when you tried to cover up radicalized right influence in your country. And yes, I do believe you don't give a shit about dead children in detention centres. Considering you just called it funny.

 

[Foxi4]

AOC has achieved much more than you ever will so, if you're not impressed by her, you must be a huge disappointment to yourself.

You're not libertarian. You are radicalized right. All the proof required was when you tried to cover up radicalized right influence in your country. And yes, I do believe you don't give a shit about dead children in detention centres. Considering you just called it funny.

Maybe you should scroll up and read the posts again, it looks like you failed the first time around. What I *actually* said was that as far as *I* am concerned there are no viable right wing parties in Poland because none of them reflect my views. There are only the authoritarian catholic right ones which sprouted as a result of years of communism making people accustomed to living under an authoritarian government's boot, and that's not my jam. In fact, I explicitly specified that they exist, and as far as economic policy goes I called them socialist because that's exactly what they are - post-communist hiccups that operate on hand-outs.

I also didn't "laugh at children in detention", what I actually said was that I'm a "lolbertarian", a person who pursues libertarian objectives via chaotic and humorous means. Everything else you've said in this matter is a fabrication that exists exclusively in your mind. In fact, you're the one who brought the issue up in the first place, in response to nothing.

Perhaps you too should take a break and drink some chamomile tea before you further embarrass yourself with your somewhat selective reading comprehension. You seem to understand some statements perfectly fine while others completely fly over your head, which is obviously intentional. It's a pretty transparent strategy, just so you know. I'm afraid that attacking my character by building increasingly more elaborate strawmen isn't going to work. Repeating that I'm the "radical right" over and over doesn't really change much, it just makes you wrong on multiple occasions as opposed to just one.

 

[FAST6191]

AOC has achieved much more than you ever will so, if you're not impressed by her, you must be a huge disappointment to yourself.

That is a rather bold assumption to make of someone else, even more so if it is to be left to the one that does experiences life to determine their own merit/measures of achievement.

Equally not being impressed by someone so must be a disappointment yourself? How does that even work. They are not even connected concepts.

 

[SG854]

AOC has achieved much more than you ever will so, if you're not impressed by her, you must be a huge disappointment to yourself.

You're not libertarian. You are radicalized right. All the proof required was when you tried to cover up radicalized right influence in your country. And yes, I do believe you don't give a shit about dead children in detention centres. Considering you just called it funny.

Hitler accomplished much more then I did and I'm not impressed by his work. Rather disappointed a human could reach that low.

 

[Foxi4]

Hitler accomplished much more then I did and I'm not impressed by his work. Rather disappointed a human could reach that low.

*Ding ding ding* We've reached the point of Godwin's Law, Hitler's name has been invoked, which means that the conversation has now reached peak absurdity. Not your fault, mind - it's been absurd for a while.

 

[SG854]

*Ding ding ding* We've reached the point of Godwin's Law, Hitler's name has been invoked, which means that the conversation has now reached peak absurdity. Not your fault, mind - it's been absurd for a while.

Hitler Hitler HITLER

Stalin Red Army TRUMP Liberal

 

[Waygeek]

I also didn't "laugh at children in detention", what I actually said was that I'm a "lolbertarian"

No, it was in reference to the states.Therefore.

a person who pursues libertarian objectives via chaotic and humorous means.

I get that that chick you liked in high school didn't even realize you existed, but it's time to bin the My Chemical Romance t-shirts and mascara and join the real world, and realize things you find funny make people suffer, oftentimes, the most vulrnerable people.

before you further embarrass yourself

Some deep state irony coming from someone who calls themselves a 'lolbertarian'

That is a rather bold assumption to make of someone else

Not really, few have had the rise she has had recently.

Glad Foxi will at least admit how childish and ridiculous it was for @SG854 to draw equivalence between AOC and FUCKING HITLER. Grow the fuck up, seriously.

Same swift rise, different outlook on life entirely. She's not an emo shitlord at all, like ol' Adolf was and the radicalized right are.