Gaming 4k Gaming on PC is very expensive compared to consoles ?!

[depaul]

Hi. Lately I was interested to buy a high-end gaming PC for good 4k experience.

But, gaming PC category is very expensive compared to consoles.

For a gaming laptop comparable to PS4 Pro you have to get at least GTX 1650 laptop (750$ - 1000$), which are 2 to 3 times the price of my PS4 Pro (350$) !

That's the cheapest one I could find (Lenovo with GTX 1650 = 700$) : https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideapad-i5-9300H-Processor-81LK00HDUS/dp/B07VC55LF5

Any recommandation please of what PCs would be suitable for 4K gaming?
Thanks

 

[DANTENDO]

I don't play pc but 4k gaming is better suited for desktop pc and youl pay cheaper for a more powerful set up than if was laptop same spec - but yeh brand new yr looking over £1000

 

[depaul]

Yes even Desktops with Nvidia GTX/RTX or AMD RX cost at least 700$... some Graphic cards alone cost almost 2000$ this is just crazy.
Maybe I will buy a normal laptop for work and wait for PS5.

 

[Deleted User]

the difference between even that and a ps4 is that the laptop can run 60fps at least 75% more often than the ps4

also the 4k bar for pc is much lower, you're artificially inflating the price by looking at a laptop, something as far back as a GTX 970 can do 4k, albeit not at mega ultra settings but consoles don't do that either at 60fps so no real competition, at least you get actual 4k rather than upscales

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Hi. Lately I was interested to buy a high-end gaming PC for good 4k experience.

But, gaming PC category is very expensive compared to consoles.

For a gaming laptop comparable to PS4 Pro you have to get at least GTX 1650 laptop (750$ - 1000$), which are 2 to 3 times the price of my PS4 Pro (350$) !

That's the cheapest one I could find (Lenovo with GTX 1650 = 700$) : https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideapad-i5-9300H-Processor-81LK00HDUS/dp/B07VC55LF5

Any recommandation please of what PCs would be suitable for 4K gaming?
Thanks

A high-end gaming PC is not even in the same ballpark as a PS4 Pro or Xbox One X, they have multiple times the processing power and the experience is completely different.

You can build a gaming PC capable of running 4K games about as well as an XBox One X for around the same price, if you pick your parts carefully. It won't be what you would call high end, but then neither are consoles.

Keep in mind a PC can be used for far more than just playing games and watching Netflix/YouTube, so it's not fair to compare the price to that of consoles.

 

[eyeliner]

And a computer, either a laptop, desktop, or whatever-top, is able to do way more than what a console can do.

Such a powerful machina can play anything you throw at it, and other systems too, through emulation, unlike consoles.

And the porn, dude. Pornhub in a console ain't cool even if you grab your mighty joystick and waggle it like a maniac. The joy isn't there...

 

[Kioku]

I mean... You get what you pay for. This applies to the consoles, as well. The "comparable" PCs you're mentioning exceed PS4 pro performance. More consistent frames, better quality, etc.

 

[Mythical]

Hi. Lately I was interested to buy a high-end gaming PC for good 4k experience.

But, gaming PC category is very expensive compared to consoles.

For a gaming laptop comparable to PS4 Pro you have to get at least GTX 1650 laptop (750$ - 1000$), which are 2 to 3 times the price of my PS4 Pro (350$) !

That's the cheapest one I could find (Lenovo with GTX 1650 = 700$) : https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideapad-i5-9300H-Processor-81LK00HDUS/dp/B07VC55LF5

Any recommandation please of what PCs would be suitable for 4K gaming?
Thanks

I would say at this price range to go for very high end 1080p gaming or to go for mid range 1440p gaming. 4k just isn't worth it at this price range (if you have the moniter you could always use it when possible though)

 

[DANTENDO]

Yes even Desktops with Nvidia GTX/RTX or AMD RX cost at least 700$... some Graphic cards alone cost almost 2000$ this is just crazy.
Maybe I will buy a normal laptop for work and wait for PS5.

Depends what games you wanna play people gonna hate what I say but thers hardly any difference between top of the range pc and a ps4 pro yeh the pc bit more powerful but look at the cost but when playing the games you focus on the game not the bolox how good the shadows and lighting looks - it's nice to hav best pc in the world but the playstation is still what you really only need unless you want to play games tht are only released on pc

 

[spectral]

The difference you're overlooking is that the PC's are actually playing the games at 4K. Almost all console games run at a lower resolution and are then scaled up, which is much easier to do but looks worse. Also the consoles only manage to run the games at 30FPS unless you enable performance mode in the games that then sets them to the equivalent settings of around medium on the PC, and they still can't usually maintain 60fps.

Now I'm not saying the consoles are bad, at their prices they do a lot for what you are paying. But you're really not comparing like for like.

 

[ChibiMofo]

I must admit that the Wii is the only console I've owned, but I cannot imagine saying "Well, a (very high end PC that will be fast for the next decade) is a couple of hundred dollars more than a soon-to-be-obsolete console, so I guess I'll just wait for a non-existent future console which may be delayed well into 2021." I'll take the PC 100 times out of 100.

And then I'll eventually emulate all the exclusive titles I "missed out" by not wasting my money on a console.

(The Wii is a unique experience that no console or PC can give. I use it everyday for exergaming and will never regret that purchase.)

 

[spectral]

I must admit that the Wii is the only console I've owned, but I cannot imagine saying "Well, a (very high end PC that will be fast for the next decade) is a couple of hundred dollars more than a soon-to-be-obsolete console, so I guess I'll just wait for a non-existent future console which may be delayed well into 2021." I'll take the PC 100 times out of 100.

And then I'll eventually emulate all the exclusive titles I "missed out" by not wasting my money on a console.

(The Wii is a unique experience that no console or PC can give. I use it everyday for exergaming and will never regret that purchase.)

Actually emulating the Wii is easy

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

Don't buy a laptop, stick with a desktop and the prices won't be so bad.

If you're on a very strict budget, I'd also recommend going with some used parts for your build. A used GPU, CPU, and potentially motherboard could save you a fair bit of money in the long run and still net you great performance. A used GTX 1080, for instance, goes for like $300-$350 depending on which model, which should be enough for 4k gaming on like medium settings (which would already be a step up from consoles). Pair that with like a 6th gen i7 6700k for another $200-$275, 16GB of new RAM (~$80), a half-decent Z170 mobo for $50, a new 500W PSU for around $50, and some cheapo case and you can have 4k gaming for like $800 max (not counting stuff like monitor and keyboard and junk).

But, TBH, I wouldn't bother with 4k gaming at all, the real sweet spot for best visuals and performance is 1440p@144hz. High refresh rates are much more important in most games than a slightly higher resolution, and it's the one thing consoles don't bother with since the average consumer's TV is only going to be 60hz. If you want a truly better gaming experience with PC vs consoles, stick with 1440p@144hz instead.

 

[Bladexdsl]

PC is REAL 4k/60 at max settings though the consoles aren't they dumb down the settings and fps tricking you into thinking it's 4K

 

[DANTENDO]

Stick to playstation mate great games still with death stranding last of us 2 coming and of course prob game of the year ff7 remake first on playstation

 

[brickmii82]

4k has a lot more impact on larger displays. If you ain't gonna play on 50" or more I'd go 2k. At 27-28" the difference is honestly not noticeable at all. As mentioned earlier, you'll love the smooth view of a higher framerate also.

Edit: I do think that these next console releases will impress. The PS5 and Sexbox are likely gonna push higher framerates plus iirc they're gonna implement ray tracing tech also.

 

[Deleted User]

A high-end gaming PC is not even in the same ballpark as a PS4 Pro or Xbox One X, they have multiple times the processing power and the experience is completely different.

You can build a gaming PC capable of running 4K games about as well as an XBox One X for around the same price, if you pick your parts carefully. It won't be what you would call high end, but then neither are consoles.

Keep in mind a PC can be used for far more than just playing games and watching Netflix/YouTube, so it's not fair to compare the price to that of consoles.

No you can't.

Why do PC elitists always lie and say their builds are cheaper then they actually are? is it because they feel stupid admitting how much money they actually spent to play video games?

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The difference you're overlooking is that the PC's are actually playing the games at 4K. Almost all console games run at a lower resolution and are then scaled up, which is much easier to do but looks worse. Also the consoles only manage to run the games at 30FPS unless you enable performance mode in the games that then sets them to the equivalent settings of around medium on the PC, and they still can't usually maintain 60fps.

Now I'm not saying the consoles are bad, at their prices they do a lot for what you are paying. But you're really not comparing like for like.

XB1X runs tons of AAA games at 4k native resolution, please stop spreading misinformation.

 

[gamesquest1]

it depends on the person although one more note is you actually end up saving in the log run in terms of prices of games with things like humble bundle/steam sales, not to mention if your so inclined obtaining not so legit copies of games on PC is vastly easier with no only on this FW and only if you turn off your internet and avoid updates etc etc

honestly the prices of used half decent gaming PC's isn't all that bad either mainly due to paranoia about people getting a burnt out GPU/CPU, but tbf thats a common concern with used consoles at this point too and once your setup you can slowly add to your build and if the GPU does fail or if you find newer games are struggling you can just upgrade that one component and continue where you left off, and instead of loosing all your games each generation you can play any game you feel like without dusting off the 360 from under the stairs and trying to find all the wires for it

also if you have any friends/family who are into their gaming you can use the steam family share feature and split the costs of games between you if its something you both want

but yeah as far as gaming laptops are concerned I would give them a miss, you pay way more for the hardware, and you usually loose the upgradability except for the ram/hdd, I personally have a gaming PC and bog standard laptop

 

[Xzi]

Pre-builts are always going to be like 40% more expensive for no good reason. Definitely better to price out individual components and put it together yourself or have a friend/family member do it for you. Nvidia RTX cards are also a rip-off in terms of price to performance ratio, GTX 1080ti can be found at or under $500 on eBay. All told my rig was about $1000 back in 2016, you could probably build something with a better CPU now for around $900.

Bottom line: yeah, 4K is kinda expensive if you're looking to hit 60+ FPS consistently. Considering current consoles can't even manage 60 FPS at 1080p, I seriously doubt next gen consoles will produce that kind of performance in true 4K most of the time. Especially not without sacrificing quality settings.

 

[gamesquest1]

Pre-builts are always going to be like 40% more expensive for no good reason. Definitely better to price out individual components and put it together yourself or have a friend/family member do it for you. Nvidia RTX cards are also a rip-off in terms of price to performance ratio, GTX 1080ti can be found at or under $500 on eBay. All told my rig was about $1000 back in 2016, you could probably build something with a better CPU now for around $900.

Bottom line: yeah, 4K is kinda expensive if you're looking to hit 60+ FPS consistently. Considering current consoles can't even manage 60 FPS at 1080p, I seriously doubt next gen consoles will produce that kind of performance in true 4K most of the time. Especially not without sacrificing quality settings.

when there was a few Ebay discount codes over Christmas I basically upgraded my whole PC except the PSU/HDD, RTX 2070 super, 32GB ram, risen 7 2700X Motherboard and case worked out at about £500, does everything I need of it...probably a little bit more than I needed, but figured it would be smart to take advantage of the 20% off codes and stuff