Homebrew Question HBG shop new update and no full ram access

[jkjj]

Personally i am a user of sxinstaller/tinfoil-dz/hbgshop/ and the switch pirate pack.

I hated mercury hijacking hbmenu, so what i did was simply put the mercury nro in the switch folder. with 4.0, the structure already provides a mercury nro in its own directory inside /switch/mercury/ so you can neglect the root hbmenu , and i assume the hbl file you put in atmosphere folder ( i use sx ).
that way, if you want to launch mercury, it can be done from the OG-hbmenu.

also since i don't prefer to edit my locations.conf with locations from these other packs, what i do is rename each /switch/tinfoil folder that i am not using.
( e.g. if i dont want to use hbgshop, i will rename this folder to tinfoil_hbg using apollo or NXShell, and use other names like tinfoil_dz for regular tinfoil by blawar, and tinfoil_sp for the switchpirate pack.
whichever app i would use, ill rename back to tinfoil. doing this only takes maybe 15 seconds from the console

 

[blawar]

Personally i am a user of sxinstaller/tinfoil-dz/hbgshop/ and the switch pirate pack.

I hated mercury hijacking hbmenu, so what i did was simply put the mercury nro in the switch folder. with 4.0, the structure already provides a mercury nro in its own directory inside /switch/mercury/ so you can neglect the root hbmenu , and i assume the hbl file you put in atmosphere folder ( i use sx ).
that way, if you want to launch mercury, it can be done from the OG-hbmenu.

also since i don't prefer to edit my locations.conf with locations from these other packs, what i do is rename each /switch/tinfoil folder that i am not using.
( e.g. if i dont want to use hbgshop, i will rename this folder to tinfoil_hbg using apollo or NXShell, and use other names like tinfoil_dz for regular tinfoil by blawar, and tinfoil_sp for the switchpirate pack.
whichever app i would use, ill rename back to tinfoil. doing this only takes maybe 15 seconds from the console

You can merge all of your locations into one file now, 4.00 supports disabling locations so they dont load at boot. just disable all of the locations and enter the ones you want to use at the time.

 

[Verin]

Isn't the over ride key R on stock atmosphere?

It is until you install Tinfoil 4.0.

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I highly agree to this. Why would one run a homebrew app over an installed app. that's dumb. Forwarders exist and have existed ever since the days of the Wii. For instance we have the PPSSPP standalone beta, the Dev of it is so against forwarders/NSPs. IMHO the game override option is dumb.

I personally prefer the override than having to have a forwarder. It's pretty damn simple to hold down a button over a game. Forcing people into any kind of change without giving them an option is kind of a dick move in my opinion. I'll just stick to grabbing updates and the old fashioned way, for now Tinfoil is messing with normal aspects of Atmosphere.

 

[wurstpistole]

Just out of curiosity,
what happens if I just copy over new HBGshop/Tinfoil and simply ignore the hbl/mercury that comes in that pack, and continue to use the original one?
What's the downside?

 

[Deleted User]

I just installed 4.0 as well and experienced the exact same problem. I mostly use forwarders, but sometimes I do use games to boot into hbmenu. Definitely will be deleting HBG and replacing files.

-it's not like it's helped me anyways. you could cook a meal for a family faster than downloading on hbg-

 

[wii07]

Im on the latest Atmos and can also only start the hbc in applet mode while pressing r and than a on fotos. Pressing a when starting am game to get in full mode does not work for me. Am in doing something wrong or ith the only way with the newest files to make a .nsp forwarder?

 

[wurstpistole]

use the loader file from atmosphere to fix your issues

But then hbgshop/tinfoil won't work anymore.

Just out of curiosity,
what happens if I just copy over new HBGshop/Tinfoil and simply ignore the hbl/mercury that comes in that pack, and continue to use the original one?
What's the downside?

I will answer that myself,
If one does not use the modified hbl, which is just far worse than the original one because it doesn't allow overriding anymore, then tinfoil and hbg won't work altogether. @blawar, I am not the fondest person of the atmosphere-fuckwithery that you pursue with passion, but what you pulled there is the master dick move. Your only intention behind that could have been to just make people stop using it on Atmos because it breaks one of the most important features, title override.

 

[jkjj]

You can merge all of your locations into one file now, 4.00 supports disabling locations so they dont load at boot. just disable all of the locations and enter the ones you want to use at the time.

ah, this is true. i guess i haven't experimented enough with this. MAYBE you do know the best way. far be it from me to question the creator of the #1 homebrew

but theres a handful of them to go through, so it might not save a ton of time for me personally.
i use straight tinfoil by yourself when i want to use my own locations and maybe its a bit faggy but i like the experience of switching the other shops up.

but a good day to you sir! may you be blessed in this lifetime and the next!

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But then hbgshop/tinfoil won't work anymore.


I will answer that myself,
If one does not use the modified hbl, which is just far worse than the original one because it doesn't allow overriding anymore, then tinfoil and hbg won't work altogether. @blawar, I am not the fondest person of the atmosphere-fuckwithery that you pursue with passion, but what you pulled there is the master dick move. Your only intention behind that could have been to just make people stop using it on Atmos because it breaks one of the most important features, title override.

even if that were his intent, which is not so clearly the case, its only a temporary inconvenience until he provides a workaround, like hes wont to do, or everyone quickly realizes the easiest fix by visiting the daily gbatemp self loathing hate SX circle jerk

 

[wurstpistole]

even if that were his intent, which is not so clearly the case, its only a temporary inconvenience until he provides a workaround, like hes wont to do, or everyone quickly realizes the easiest fix by visiting the daily gbatemp self loathing hate SX circle jerk

You fail to understand that this was built in on purpose. Tinfoil only with his hbl, and his hbl with said modifications. That he made. Himself. There was no reason to do so. He just did and then drm'ed Tinfoil to only work with it. There would have been nothing to workaround if he did not intentionally build it that way.
Of course the #1 way to "fix" it would be to use SX, but it's quite obvious that he wants people to do this since he's on TX' payroll.

 

[gamemasteru03]

I just updated my HBG and realized this problem as well. I however figured out a fix, I founded a modded tinfoil which can use hbg / tinfoil without any anti atmosphere DRM.

Simply follow these steps:

1) Drag and drop HBG onto the root of your sd card.

2) Drag and drop the mod found here onto your sd card.

3) Drag and drop the latest version of atmosphere or kosmos onto the root of your sd card.

4) Boot into hbg / tinfoil and copy down the device id it gives you.

5) Put your sd card in your computer and go to switch / tinfoil / mod_config.ini and open it.

6) Delete "enter your tag" and replace it with the device id you copied down.

7) Save the file and put your sd card back into your switch.

8) Boot into HBG / Tinfoil and enjoy!

I take no credit for this app or this mod neither were made by me.

 

[Verin]

You fail to understand that this was built in on purpose. Tinfoil only with his hbl, and his hbl with said modifications. That he made. Himself. There was no reason to do so. He just did and then drm'ed Tinfoil to only work with it. There would have been nothing to workaround if he did not intentionally build it that way.
Of course the #1 way to "fix" it would be to use SX, but it's quite obvious that he wants people to do this since he's on TX' payroll.

100% this. There was zero reason to do this, I've been trying to say that earlier. For some reason people blindly just give him a pass on this fuckery... hijacking the stock functions of Atmosphere just for one app? Nah...

 

[di4b0lik]

@blawar I would like to suggest you a much more simpler solution that would not require to edit any ATMO file:
Here's a little mod that will launch mercury (from /switch/mercury/mercury.nro) whenever you launch the eshop applet, it is basically just a 2-lines edit to the offical hbloader source (https://github.com/switchbrew/nx-hbloader/blob/master/source/main.c#L288-L289).

You do copy /tinfoil and /mercury to /switch as usual and then also copy exefs.nsp to /atmosphere/titles/010000000000100B, the final result will be:

- Open ESHOP -> Launches Mercury
- HBL Forwarder -> Launches Tinfoil
- Hold R -> Launches HBMenu

Everything gets a quick launch button and everyone wins

 

[jdr7243]

I just updated my HBG and realized this problem as well. I however figured out a fix, I founded a modded tinfoil which can use hbg / tinfoil without any anti atmosphere DRM.

Simply follow these steps:

1) Drag and drop HBG onto the root of your sd card.

2) Drag and drop the mod found here onto your sd card.

3) Boot into hbg / tinfoil and copy down the device id it gives you.

4) Put your sd card in your computer and go to switch / tinfoil / mod_config.ini and open it.

5) Delete "enter your tag" and replace it with the device id you copied down.

6) Save the file and put your sd card back into your switch.

7) Boot into HBG / Tinfoil and enjoy!

I take no credit for this app or this mod neither were made by me.

Total life-saver, man - thank you so much for posting this. I went ahead and updated Hekate, Atmosphere, Kosmos, HBG/Tinfoil, etc. today and this was driving me insane. This series of steps fixed my HBG/Tinfoil issues.

 

[wurstpistole]

@blawar I would like to suggest you a much more simpler solution that would not require to edit any ATMO file:
Here's a little mod that will launch mercury (from /switch/mercury/mercury.nro) whenever you launch the eshop applet, it is basically just a 2-lines edit to the offical hbloader source (https://github.com/switchbrew/nx-hbloader/blob/master/source/main.c#L288-L289).

You do copy /tinfoil and /mercury to /switch as usual and then also copy exefs.nsp to /atmosphere/titles/010000000000100B, the final result will be:

- Open ESHOP -> Launches Mercury
- HBL Forwarder -> Launches Tinfoil
- Hold R -> Launches HBMenu

Everything gets a quick launch button and everyone wins

That is not what his intention was. He could have made it in a way that would absolutely not fuck with anything. But he deliberately did it the other way.
It's just one more step to fuck with Atmosphere users, to make it extremely annoying to use Tinfoil or HBG when using Atmosphere, and probably to just drive people to buy SX.
Again, his apps are all used (in modded versions) by SX, so no wonder he does that.

 

[ssergiio]

I just updated my HBG and realized this problem as well. I however figured out a fix, I founded a modded tinfoil which can use hbg / tinfoil without any anti atmosphere DRM.

Simply follow these steps:

1) Drag and drop HBG onto the root of your sd card.

2) Drag and drop the mod found here onto your sd card.

3) Boot into hbg / tinfoil and copy down the device id it gives you.

4) Put your sd card in your computer and go to switch / tinfoil / mod_config.ini and open it.

5) Delete "enter your tag" and replace it with the device id you copied down.

6) Save the file and put your sd card back into your switch.

7) Boot into HBG / Tinfoil and enjoy!

I take no credit for this app or this mod neither were made by me.

After doing this and entering Homebrew Menu pressing R while starting a game, HBM starts always in applet mode and key input doesn't work.

 

[wurstpistole]

After doing this and entering Homebrew Menu pressing R while starting a game, HBM starts always in applet mode and key input doesn't work.

You replaced the original HBmenu with the file from HBGshop/Tinfoil package, didn't you.
The mod has absolutely zero to do with how HBmenu acts and, of course, if you kept the original file then HBmenu boots fine in extended mode when starting a game with R.
Try getting the original HBmenu back from the Atmosphere zip and then, swoosh, it'll magically work again

 

[Purple_Heart]

HBG is stupid they banned me because i had special letters or no ascII letters in my name. What tf do u care about my name. i got one warning wich was 10 min mute.....3 fk...days still banned. they are idiots. their rules are dumb.

 

[ssergiio]

You replaced the original HBmenu with the file from HBGshop/Tinfoil package, didn't you.
The mod has absolutely zero to do with how HBmenu acts and, of course, if you kept the original file then HBmenu boots fine in extended mode when starting a game with R.
Try getting the original HBmenu back from the Atmosphere zip and then, swoosh, it'll magically work again

Just did it and it's the same, only applet mode booting.

You mean hbmenu.nro right?

 

[danfozzy85]

I just updated my HBG and realized this problem as well. I however figured out a fix, I founded a modded tinfoil which can use hbg / tinfoil without any anti atmosphere DRM.

Simply follow these steps:

1) Drag and drop HBG onto the root of your sd card.

2) Drag and drop the mod found here onto your sd card.

3) Boot into hbg / tinfoil and copy down the device id it gives you.

4) Put your sd card in your computer and go to switch / tinfoil / mod_config.ini and open it.

5) Delete "enter your tag" and replace it with the device id you copied down.

6) Save the file and put your sd card back into your switch.

7) Boot into HBG / Tinfoil and enjoy!

I take no credit for this app or this mod neither were made by me.

worked a treat! full access to ram and no more applet mode using the override

any idea were to look for the modded 4.10 hbg?

 

[wurstpistole]

Just did it and it's the same, only applet mode booting.

You mean hbmenu.nro right?

I do not know what you did but probably overwrote other important files as well. Revert everything, grab original Atmosphere, delete Tinfoil and use JUST the switch/tinfoil folder from Tinfoil/HBG package, and the modded tinfoil.nro with the ini that was posted above. Works perfect for me.

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You replaced the original HBmenu with the file from HBGshop/Tinfoil package, didn't you.
The mod has absolutely zero to do with how HBmenu acts and, of course, if you kept the original file then HBmenu boots fine in extended mode when starting a game with R.
Try getting the original HBmenu back from the Atmosphere zip and then, swoosh, it'll magically work again

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