-.- literally the first thing one finds on google searching cfw nintendo switch is atmosphere....
and so they cant even try to make it themself ?
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and so they cant even try to make it themself ?
I'm not saying TX won't release an update for 7.0.x. I'm saying it's reasonable to think they might not. So, if they do release an update to 7.0.x, I won't be surprised. I said earlier in this thread that it's more likely than not that they'll release an update to 7.0.x. However, it's highly recommended that nobody buy SX OS until such an update is released, given the above information and the very real possibility of abandonment.
Before 7.0.x, I never once stated that it's reasonable to think TX abandoned SX OS. Things are different this time around, since TX doesn't have a public exploit to steal, and it looks like SX OS sales might also be flat.
Some of the users of SX OS I know don't even know what CFW is.
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There are many types of users on here (those that hate Tx for what they have done, some don't care at all. Those that think it's stupid to pay for piracy and those that don't. Those that just want it simple as possible to play a backup and those that want advanced features like kip loading etc.)
I bought the SX pro 8 months ago so my kids can easily play backups, its worked really well. I don't play games myself , if i was X years younger i would care about kip loading etc.
I've shown the Sx pro to 3 people at work, they would have bought it, if their switches were not patched. I told them about Free CFW but they still would have bought the SX pro. because they saw how easily it was for them to use. last thing i want is for them to be bringing their switches to me every time they want to install a game etc.
Are you arguing that it's good for business to acknowledge a free alternative to one's product? You also can't argue against the fact that TX has never acknowledged Atmosphere, and they refuse to use sept. Why else?
Atmosphere developers acknowledge SX OS. TX does not acknowledge Atmosphere. See what I said earlier in this post.
i think many users did know you only have to look at the number of people who were playing games using early versions of Atmos with layered Fs before SX was released, many on here then bought the SX pro.
maybe i'm wrong, but you only see the SX pro advertised on sites like this or sites that sell r4 cards etc. so people who visit them already have a interest in backup cards and will already be aware of the different CFWs.
there are many threads on here going back nearly a year about Atmos, i cant believe there are many users on here who don't know what Atmos is.
??? i dont see anywhere on discord or github from atmosphere mention sxos... -.- and again .. a couple people you know just because they dont know what cfw is doesnt make sxos be based on ignorance... by that logic reinx is based on ignorance too then... why not atmosphere ?
i am just telling you that someone who buys a switch today and does not know a thing about cfw.. most probably what he/she would do would be search hack nintendo switch on google.. they will see a lot of info not just on sxos but others os and guides.. then they will decide what they like or need.. some will want xci ... others usb loading... or kips or 7.0.1 support.
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He's referring to people he knows, not every single person who owns SXOS.
Plus, he has a point when saying it would be dumb as a business to acknowledge free alternatives. TX is rather smart when it comes to business marketing, so it makes sense that they won't acknowledge that competition exists. It doesn't matter if their users know it exists or not, they won't acknowledge its existence regardless
so how did they end up buying SX then?, someone must have told them about it, they must have gone to one of the re-seller websites. like ombus said used google. if you type 'how to hack my switch' the 3rd youtube video on google mentions Atmos. the other 2 don't mention Sx.
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And why would they? It's kind of implied TX can't find that exploit. Primarily because in the past the relied on atmosphere and other open sourced works. So if they are dependent on other individuals, what on earth makes you think they will find it? In other words, TX has no power over burning the exploit as they are likely not to find it.
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Proof that there isn't?
now of course your going to respond with "What's your proof?"
And I can happily answer. The brick code is the biggest piece. Not only as far as I remember in cfw history has a product intentionally brick the users device to complete unusability. And when I say product, I mean the physical device or the code itself. Not the branches it gives. So for example, the brick code that was distrubuted through ds roms would not count as the actual devices themselves (r4s) would not brick the targets device. (despite the fact there are time bomb carts, which would only stop the cart from working and not the device)
Not only that, but they used remarkably similar methods of bricking. Which was encrypting the NAND. Which both gateway and SXOS had code for. And if your going to argue that it's a coincidence. Mind this, in all the many different ways to brick a device, NAND encryption was the one chosen. They could of completely deleted all contents of the nand. They could of removed certain files. But instead, they both choose NAND encryption. Which is why it can be believed they, SX OS, and Gateway are one of the same at this point in time. Another piece of evidence is stargatenx. When TX's website went down both TX's site AND stargate went down. Which while may be more losely connected, still has the name gate in it.
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Their stash went down and they've been giving out refunds, i imagine its been keeping them busy~
I can't see they being that busy, there can't be that many people who actually paid for it
Businesses acknowledging free alternatives:
Microsoft vs Linux - yes Linux as the market share, with MS just a few per cent behind. I wonder why MS is still a major player when it is so expensive compared to free?
source: https://w3techs.com/technologies/comparison/os-linux,os-windows
Adobe (products) Photoshop vs Gimp, Affinity, Paint.net, Sumo etc.etc. Why does Adobe have the market share compared to the myriad of free products?
It can be extremely beneficial for companies to acknowledge their competitors.. then they get to highlight their benefits over the competition as to why you should buy their product.
It can be good for business to acknowledge a free alternative to one's product.. see examples above.
Hang on, wtf? Why the hell should TX use Sept? They may be working on their own exploit which also works on ipatch units. Saying one company HAS to use another company's solution is ludicrous. Sure it may be EASIER to licence / use an existing solution, but that alternative solution may not always be the sole way / answer of doing things.
TX acknowledging Atmosphere might be applicable though, it could also be used as selling points of SX OS if / when a 7.x solution is released with XCI support, USB game loading and emuNAND as major selling points.
They claimed a long long time ago that they got something for the patched units but we still didn't see anything regarding that and that alone proves they're full of shit
I can't see they being that busy, there can't be that many people who actually paid for it
you'd be surprised at how many people will pay for convenience, especially less technically savy or wealthier people.
it's been mentioned many times on here that some people think TX is not the same TX from the good old days.
yet if you believe TX is Gateway then TX must be the same TX from the old days because the GW 3DS card was released in what Aug 2013, getting on for 6yrs ago.
a quick search on here, i found a review post. you could be right, you could substitute Gateway for TX
, also looking at the reaction from some of the 'community' to it's release echo's with some peoples view to TX release of SX. https://gbatemp.net/review/gateway-3ds.79/
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I can, the reason i bought the Sx pro was ease of us and the time it would save compared to using layered Fs.
Lots of people claim lots of things, which take longer than expected to come to fruition. Not every project develops as quickly as single or small group enthusiast projects where every spare moment is used to enhance and then release the homebrew. Not every large Kickstarter project makes it to fruition either.
Maybe TX do have an exploit which will work and they're waiting for Mariko to be released so they don't burn the exploit beforehand?
Maybe SciresM will take a look at the toxicity of the Switch scene and lose their passion for working on Atmosphere and drop it.
NONE of us know and the thousands of pages of pure toxicity, speculation and school yard drama are a total waste.
Imagine if some of you TX haters actually knew how to code and worked on developing apps or CFW yourselves? What an amazing outcome that would be, so much energy devoted to enhancing the Switch homebrew scene instead of throwing shit like a bunch of monkeys (and my apologies to any monkeys out there reading).
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