Thousands of migrant children are reporting they were sexually assaulted in U.S. custody

[Xzi]

Even if you somehow didn't think putting toddlers in concrete cages after separating them from their parents was a bad look for this country, you have to admit this is a whole new level of fucked up.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...assaults-us-custody-border-detain/2988884002/

Thousands of migrant children who crossed the southern border into the U.S. have reported they were sexually assaulted while in government custody, according to Department of Health and Human Services documents released Tuesday by Rep. Ted Deutch's office.

In the past four years, 4,556 children said they were sexually assaulted while in the care of Health and Human Services' Office of Refugee Resettlement, which takes custody of unaccompanied minors who cross the southern border alone and those who are separated from their families.

So I have to wonder if we'll get a little outrage toward this from the people who constantly screech about imaginary pedophile pizza parlors, or if they'll just dismiss this outright because the children are brown. Or maybe it's "fake news" from the Department of Health and Human Services? Regardless of their excuse, a lot of people need to be jailed over this, and there's no pretending Trump doesn't own a share of the responsibility too.

 

[IncredulousP]

Fucking tragedy.

 

[Kioku]

ICE mistreating immigrants? Haven't they be doing this for FUCKING DECADES? Been saying it since Obama came into office. ICE needs to go. That whole entire outfit (including the aforementioned departments above) are a waste of the taxpayers dime.

 

[Whole lotta love]

ice should be abolished and qanon people don't actually care about victims of trafficking and pedophilia.

 

[erikas]

Did any of you actually read it? The majority of those assaults were done by other minors in custody.

 

[Kioku]

Did any of you actually read it? The majority of those assaults were done by other minors in custody.

... And that changes the general thought how? This still isn't news. It's done under the "protection" of these morons who are paid for a job they're not even doing.

 

[Hanafuda]

Did any of you actually read it? The majority of those assaults were done by other minors in custody.

And it was happening when Obama was President too.

Out of 4556 alleged incidents, 158 involve accusations against adult staff. So ... about 3.5%? Inexcusable that it happens at all, but then again 'zero' incidents is a pipe dream. How many alleged sexual assaults occur each year involving American minors in the foster care system? I'll bet it's a LOT more than 158.

 

[Kioku]

And it was happening when Obama was President too.

Out of 4556 alleged incidents, 158 involve accusations against adult staff. So ... about 3.5%? Inexcusable that it happens at all, but then again 'zero' incidents is a pipe dream. How many alleged sexual assaults occur each year involving American minors in the foster care system? I'll bet it's a LOT more than 158.

I'd bet my next paycheck you're indefinitely right.

 

[notimp]

Ah, the put children in cages program has...

(I will not continue the sentence.)

edit: Here is how to properly continue the thread. How about you start thinking about how to best integrate them into your society. Your arent shipping them off, "back to mexico" are you?

 

[Xzi]

edit: Here is how to properly continue the thread. How about you start thinking about how to best integrate them into your society. Your arent shipping them off, "back to mexico" are you?

The Trump administration has no clue what to do with many of them, since they failed to keep track of the parents' whereabouts. There have been separate reports of some children being handed off to human traffickers upon release.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/29/...nt-children-with-traffickers-report-says.html

 

[erikas]

I will also add that these sexual assaults also happen on the way to the wall, as well in the countries these people are coming from. Trump calling them rapists is not as far off as everyone likes to pretend.

 

[Xzi]

I will also add that these sexual assaults also happen on the way to the wall, as well in the countries these people are coming from. Trump calling them rapists is not as far off as everyone likes to pretend.

Prime example of the wrong reaction to have to a story like this. These children were sexually assaulted under custody of a US agency, and your first reaction is to suggest their parents were raping them? As if that would justify this if it were true? It wouldn't, and it isn't. More xenophobia excuses nothing.

 

[erikas]

Prime example of the wrong reaction to have to a story like this. These children were sexually assaulted under custody of a US agency, and your first reaction is to suggest their parents were raping them? As if that would justify this if it were true? It wouldn't, and it isn't. More xenophobia excuses nothing.

While i do think that the people responsible should be punished, i don't see why a country is responsible for the safety of people who are not it's citizens and who tried to breach it's borders illegally. Again, if you actually read the article, most of the assaults were done by other detainees, not workers. It's also worth noting that these are allegations and nothing has been proven yet. If you're gonna say something like "why would they lie?" it's because being the victim of sexual assault can garner you sympathy. Finally, because of the massive amount of these migrants, ICE has their hands full, they are not designed to deal with this many people at once, and the fault for that is with the people coming.

 

[Xzi]

While i do think that the people responsible should be punished, i don't see why a country is responsible for the safety of people who are not it's citizens and who tried to breach it's borders illegally. Again, if you actually read the article, most of the assaults were done by other detainees, not workers.

None of this can be scoffed away, as if guards simply watching this behavior happen and doing nothing about it isn't also damning. There is no justification you can make here, and whataboutism won't work. The US is supposed to be holding itself to a higher standard, instead this is something that would be wholly expected coming from a third-world Banana Republic.

Also you're inferring that 150+ reported cases of ICE agents sexually assaulting children themselves somehow isn't "enough." One reported case is one too many.

Finally, because of the massive amount of these migrants, ICE has their hands full, they are not designed to deal with this many people at once, and the fault for that is with the people coming.

Illegal border crossings are at a thirty year low, this is simply nonsense. The idea that you can get away with sexual assault because your workload is too heavy is a ridiculous premise in itself.

 

[Hanafuda]

Illegal border crossings are at a thirty year low, this is simply nonsense.

Let's try for a 250 year low.

 

[DCG]

I'd bet my next paycheck you're indefinitely right.

Is this a joke on how you're out of a job, so even if he is correct you don't have to pay?

If you don't have border control and don't have people to deport illegals, you don't have a country.
So why still have laws?
Go go gadget anarchy...

 

[erikas]

None of this can be scoffed away, as if guards simply watching this behavior happen and doing nothing about it isn't also damning. There is no justification you can make here, and whataboutism won't work. The US is supposed to be holding itself to a higher standard, instead this is something that would be wholly expected coming from a third-world Banana Republic.

Also you're inferring that 150+ reported cases of ICE agents sexually assaulting children themselves somehow isn't "enough." One reported case is one too many.


Illegal border crossings are at a thirty year low, this is simply nonsense. The idea that you can get away with sexual assault because your workload is too heavy is a ridiculous premise in itself.

And why did you conveniently leave out the part that these are just allegations? And you also ignore the caravan that came to the border all at once.

 

[The Catboy]

And why did you conveniently leave out the part that these are just allegations?

He didn't, he said "reports," which is just another way of say allegations. Regardless, there's still a rather staggeringly high amount to just attempt to dismiss.

 

[Xzi]

Let's try for a 250 year low.

Only way to do that is to crack down hard on employers who hire undocumented workers. In other words, it'll never happen under Republicans, they'll only provide more cheap talk and proposals for completely ineffective solutions to obfuscate their true intentions. Meanwhile, children are being abused, and entirely new problems are created.

 

[erikas]

He didn't, he said "reports," which is just another way of say allegations. Regardless, there's still a rather staggeringly high amount to just attempt to dismiss.

Does quantity really matter? This isn't the first time democrats dog pile massive amount of allegations to destroy someones reputation.