Hacking Will Tinfoil’s “Ignore Firmware” feature always work?

[mranonymous]

With some advice from this forum, I learned about the feature of Tinfoil to ignore firmware when installing an NSP, and it has worked flawlessly for all 10 or so games I’ve installed.

Just out of curiosity - do you see this feature working for a long time? Or could there be a time when most new games simply need the new firmware in order to work?

 

[Draxzelex]

It doesn't bypass all firmware requirements such as masterkey encryption or the system calls games use on specific firmwares.

 

[Moquedami]

It doesn't bypass all firmware requirements such as masterkey encryption or the system calls games use on specific firmwares.

this interested me, i would like to know more.
Couldnt an update of tinfoil include the new required master key? How about patching the game, would that be possible?

 

[blawar]

I have tried re-encrypting games with lower master keys with low success. THe issue is that the master key changes correspond to slight API changes as well, so even if you lwoer the master key requirement, the OS is still missing service calls the newer NSP needs because it was compiled with a newer SDK.

 

[sj33]

It literally just brute forces past the firmware restriction. This may help with some packages which have arbitrary firmware requirements, but it will NOT work in most cases which actually do require a higher firmware due to the differing keys used in each firmware.

 

[mranonymous]

It literally just brute forces past the firmware restriction. This may help with some packages which have arbitrary firmware requirements, but it will NOT work in most cases which actually do require a higher firmware due to the differing keys used in each firmware.

Makes sense, thanks! That’s unfortunate, as I was hoping to stay at 5.1 forever. I figured it was too good to be true though.

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It doesn't bypass all firmware requirements such as masterkey encryption or the system calls games use on specific firmwares.

Just wanted to give a quick thanks for lending your help on so many of my questions these past few months.

 

[sorabora]

Makes sense, thanks! That’s unfortunate, as I was hoping to stay at 5.1 forever. I figured it was too good to be true though.

Just wanted to give a quick thanks for lending your help on so many of my questions these past few months.

Do we have games now that require 6.0?

 

[naddel81]

apparently NO.

 

[nachuz]

Makes sense, thanks! That’s unfortunate, as I was hoping to stay at 5.1 forever. I figured it was too good to be true though.

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Just wanted to give a quick thanks for lending your help on so many of my questions these past few months.

well, it's obvious that smash will require 6.0.1 being impossible to bypass since the sleep mode music exists
update without burning fuses, it's 1000 times better than staying on 5.1.0