Hacking Question I cannot send payload to the "newly purchased" switch (model 2018 HAC-S-JXE-C3).

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I'll probably buy a second Switch for online, after my first one gets banned. Switch prices are going down anyway, you could get a brand new Switch yesterday for $225. Maybe by this time next year, Switches might be $150.

But, hey, I hope that 20 dollars a year is worth it for their online, because I only went online with my 3DS a few times for Animal Crossing.
 
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I'll probably buy a second Switch for online, after my first one gets banned. Switch prices are going down anyway, you could get a brand new Switch yesterday for $225. Maybe by this time next year, Switches might be $150.

But, hey, I hope that 20 dollars a year is worth it for their online, because I only went online with my 3DS a few times for Animal Crossing.

All comes down to what game are you playing if you're playing Mario kart, Splatoon or Smash then the $20 it's nothing but if you lose interest in those games there's nothing else to do online lol.
 

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Already done, newest units have ipatches which fix shofusel2

I assumed that was the case, but hadn't seen any confirmation.

But it has been known for ages that Nintendo wouldn't need to ship Mariko to fix the issue, they might even delay that now to try to beef up security and specification more.
 
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I assumed that was the case, but hadn't seen any confirmation.

But it has been known for ages that Nintendo wouldn't need to ship Mariko to fix the issue, they might even delay that now to try to beef up security and specification more.
Agreed.
 

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Already done, newest units have ipatches which fix shofusel2

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e.g @gnilwob has one of those
https://gbatemp.net/threads/i-canno...chased-switch-model-2018-hac-s-jxe-c3.510880/
Quite a few information going on here. Can you indicate which is correct.
These T210 switches with the new ipatches are coming new from the factory or is it through a firmware update affecting every single switch?
So if my switch is hackable now it will be hackable forever through FG?
 
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It's interesting they ship with 4.1.0 though, I wonder why that is.

If they've only patched the publicly released exploit, then there may still be others.

Its the only boot exploit.

4.1 is because these were produced some time ago, but it takes time for retail channels to turn-over stock.
 

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Quite a few information going on here. Can you indicate which is correct.
These T210 switches with the new ipatches are coming new from the factory or is it through a firmware update affecting every single switch?
So if my switch is hackable now it will be hackable forever through FG?
The bootrom of the Switch is read-only meaning neither we nor Nintendo can modify it. Meaning Nintendo cannot modify it through a firmware update. Meaning Nintendo can only modify it physically or before it leaves the factory.
 
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Quite a few information going on here. Can you indicate which is correct.
These T210 switches with the new ipatches are coming new from the factory or is it through a firmware update affecting every single switch?
So if my switch is hackable now it will be hackable forever through FG?
So to sum up, All current units have the Tegra 210 SoC which is vulnerable to shofusel2. Upcoming units will have the Tegra 214 SoC which is completeley immune to shofusel2.
The bootrom of the Switch is read-only meaning neither we nor Nintendo can modify it. Meaning Nintendo cannot modify it through a firmware update. Meaning Nintendo can only modify it physically.
To also quote this, this is wrong. Nintendo can modify the bootrom at factory, which is what they did. Said ipatches on the T210 SoC patch the shofusel2 vuln and leave those units to the same option as upcoming Mariko units: Software Exploits/New Hardware Vulns.
Mariko units will come with at least 5.0.0 so they are SoL atm.
Current units which are not vuln to shofusel2 come with 4.1.0 which leaves one last door open:
Deja Vu, tz vuln, enables direct warmboot into atmosphere.
 
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To also quote this, this is wrong. Nintendo can modify the bootrom at factory, which is what they did. Said ipatches on the T210 SoC patch the shofusel2 vuln and leave those units to the same option as upcoming Mariko units: Software Exploits/New Hardware Vulns.
Mariko units will come with a least 5.0.0 so they are SoL atm.
Current units which are not vuln to shofusel2 come with 4.1.0 which leaves one last door open:
Deja Vu, tz vuln, enables direct warmboot into atmosphere.
I thought this was a given but I'll amend my post Mr. Technical >.<
 

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Didn't mean to sound rude or anything, but the guy above seems new so I thought I'd better call this one out too.
That's fine, I want to spread the most appropriate misinformation as much as you do. I didn't sense any rudeness from your response. I can tell you know more about what's going on than me. I guess its my fault for watering down the information a little too much.
 

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That's fine, I want to spread the most appropriate misinformation as much as you do. I didn't sense any rudeness from your response. I can tell you know more about what's going on than me. I guess its my fault for watering down the information a little too much.
Nah, technically you're right, after the unit leaves the factory the bootrom is a hundred percent read only and can't be modified by a system update nor anything else.
I just wanted to point out how N patched those units.
 

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So to sum up, All current units have the Tegra 210 SoC which is vulnerable to shofusel2. Upcoming units will have the Tegra 214 SoC which is completeley immune to shofusel2.

To also quote this, this is wrong. Nintendo can modify the bootrom at factory, which is what they did. Said ipatches on the T210 SoC patch the shofusel2 vuln and leave those units to the same option as upcoming Mariko units: Software Exploits/New Hardware Vulns.
Mariko units will come with at least 5.0.0 so they are SoL atm.
Current units which are not vuln to shofusel2 come with 4.1.0 which leaves one last door open:
Deja Vu, tz vuln, enables direct warmboot into atmosphere.
So is Nintendo ipatching all new Switches coming out of the factory? So basically all newly manufactured switches are immune to FG?
 

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So is Nintendo ipatching all new Switches coming out of the factory? So basically all newly manufactured switches are immune to FG?
Why not? They don't lose much, if anything at all, from doing this. Its better than having to recall all manufactured consoles to apply the patches themselves. Also, as someone else pointed out, they may have been doing this for a while but we are now seeing the effects in action because old stock out prioritizes new stock. Eventually, all Switches will either be part of the new revision or have the appropriate patches applied.
 

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