Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

[MrGizMo]

Just tested my system after a couple of days with SX-OS

Banned: N (MK8 online works fine!)
If banned, provide proof (video preferred)
Downloaded with CDN: N
Used nx-dreport prior to going online in pure OFW: N
Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings: Y
SX OS used: Y
SX OS used while online: Y (2 times for a couple of seconds, accidentally turned off airplane mode :/)
Played online SX OS Backups: N
Layered FS Used: N
Layered FS Used while online: N
Played online Layered FS Injects: N
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used: Didnt use any homebrew
Connect to Internet with homebrew/CFW: Y (if SX OS is CFW, then yes, see above)
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew: N
Played with Layered FS Injects with Own Cert.: N
Can you access the eShop: Y
Backups updated: Y (CFW or OFW) Y on OFW
Wi-Fi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: Y
AutoRCM: N (TX or briccmii)
Lowest SX OS Version used when Online: 1.1 and 1.2, see above when i turned off airplane mode :/
Auto-Update Software: N
Less Fuses Burnt than Expected: Dont know anything about fuses
Additional Comments : Got a error code 2 times, 2618-0519 but i think that has something to do with my internet?

 

[Spy Pirate Shado]

I think they are just randomly banning to instill fear into the community.

They don't want to ban thousands of switches they would rather scare straight those they can.

They are 100% logging stuff done on CFW and uploading it later. That isn't speculation that is reality, whether they are banning for that yet or not is speculation.

Every Dev thus far as datamined and watched this logs record and send, that isn't a question.

The game also sends it's games Certs when playing online or just running it, that is also a reality. Those things are not specualtion we know these things for a fact about the system.

Whether they are currently banning for that, is speculation however.

I don't like saying this, but can you source any of this?

If what you're saying is true I would love the opportunity to read about it.

Edit instead of additional post: Reading the SciresM tweet is really disheartening, for a number of reasons. It is painful to think that not only in general could playing around with homebrew on your switch end up screwing you (but only if something crashes in this case?), but that data like that is collected in the event of a crash by default, without your explicit agreement to it or ability to turn it off, and that automatic forced collection of data like that could lead to a permanent crippling of the functions of an expensive device.

I'm totally on board with Nintendo being able to detect piracy, mods/hacks that affect online games and a lot of stuff like that and banning people as a response to detecting it. But if they ban consoles now or in the future based on this telemetry collected when you were offline that crosses a line into scummy territory IMHO.

 

[korko]

What about a factory reset?

Will this not clear the log without creating suspicion?

 

[Shuny]

Just a heads-up: it really seems that 5.x.x has better telemetry tools, so that's maybe why dreport (in it's current version) isnt doing the whole job, or worse, it's making it more suspicious for Nintendo servers

https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/1011321806207107072?s=19

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This is what I was saying in my previous post

Since 5.1.0 release after those RCM hacks, it makes sense that it includes improved tools to detect them.

Maybe the safest way to use homebrew is just to keep an old version of the firmware ?

 

[lukhart]

This is what I was saying in my previous post

Since 5.1.0 release after those RCM hacks, it makes sense that it includes improved tools to detect them.

Maybe the safest way to use homebrew is just to keep an old version of the firmware ?

That's what I hope for and the reason why I'm looking forward to emunand

 

[Gimzie]

Okay, here's mine:

Banned: N
Used any CDN Downloader: N
Unchecked "Send Errors" in Menu: Y
Cleared Error Logs prior to going Online with nx-dreport: N
SX OS used offline: N
SX OS used online: N
Played with SX Backups online: N
Layered FS Used offline: N
Layered FS Used online: Y: Only once, for 30 minutes, just to test it out. Never used again, and don't plan to.
Played with Layered FS Injects online: N
Homebrew Offline: Y
Connect internet with homebrew: Y
Connect to eShop during CFW: Y
Played with Layered FS Injects with OwnCert.: N
Does the Eshop work: Y
Backups updated: N
WiFi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: N
AutoRCM: Y (Plan to remove before system updates)
SX OS Version used when Online: NONE
Auto Game Update/Downloads deactivated: N

 

[chrisrlink]

the only thing that would get me basicly if the next update prevents banned switches from doing local multiplayer other than that irdc about being banned online no skin off my nose

 

[Spy Pirate Shado]

What about a factory reset?

Will this not clear the log without creating suspicion?

I was curious about this as well. It was one of the reasons I was skeptical of the "interesting log changes gets you banned" stuff to begin with outside of obviously errors being logged that are created by homebrew developer tools. You could factory reset and the logs would be cleared AFAIK, so logs could be changed as a result of that, and bans would be handed out as a result?

 

[Cava]

You are who are banned/not banned. Are you using a local account or a linked nintendo account on SX OS?

 

[Draxzelex]

Can you add Atmosphere in here now that it's Bootable on 3.0.0?

That's not what this thread is for.

Just a heads-up: it really seems that 5.x.x has better telemetry tools, so that's maybe why dreport (in it's current version) isnt doing the whole job, or worse, it's making it more suspicious for Nintendo servers

https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/1011321806207107072?s=19

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Great, things just went from bad to worse. Now I have to ask users what firmware they've used it on and configure the spreadsheet to recongize Y 5.X as bad. Thanks for making my life harder, Nintendo. This also potentially invalidates literally everyone's responses up to this point because now its up in the air whether everyone ran it properly and on the right firmwares.

Just tested my system after a couple of days with SX-OS

Banned: N (MK8 online works fine!)
If banned, provide proof (video preferred)
Downloaded with CDN: N
Used nx-dreport prior to going online in pure OFW: N
Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings: Y
SX OS used: Y
SX OS used while online: Y (2 times for a couple of seconds, accidentally turned off airplane mode :/)
Played online SX OS Backups: N
Layered FS Used: N
Layered FS Used while online: N
Played online Layered FS Injects: N
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used: Didnt use any homebrew
Connect to Internet with homebrew/CFW: Y (if SX OS is CFW, then yes, see above)
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew: N
Played with Layered FS Injects with Own Cert.: N
Can you access the eShop: Y
Backups updated: Y (CFW or OFW) Y on OFW
Wi-Fi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: Y
AutoRCM: N (TX or briccmii)
Lowest SX OS Version used when Online: 5.1
Auto-Update Software: N
Less Fuses Burnt than Expected: Dont know anything about fuses
Additional Comments : Got a error code 2 times, 2618-0519 but i think that has something to do with my internet?

For SX OS Version, I'm referring to SX OS itself (i.e. 1.0, 1.1, 1.2) not the Switch's firmware.

 

[Imparasite]

guys im just curious what will happen if you get ban from nintendo?? you cant open your switch anymore?? or you cant go play online etc etc??? sorry i didnt play online, im using online features just to update my games or upgrade my consoles.

 

[korko]

guys im just curious what will happen if you get ban from nintendo?? you cant open your switch anymore?? or you cant go play online etc etc??? sorry i didnt play online, im using online features just to update my games or upgrade my consoles.

No online gaming. No eshop.

 

[Indominusda1e]

I'm still not banned

 

[runetoonxx2]

man i dont wanna go online until this s figured out lol

 

[Michael Morsette]

Well to add to the info. I'm on 5.1.0, still using SX OS with autoRCM, play with homebrew quite a bit (mostly emulators) and have had quite a number of crashes but I haven't seen an error code notice. So far no ban, I just bought a game off eShop last night (One Strike) and checked the store and news feed today with no issues. While I have been online with cfw I have not run any backups.

I wonder if the theory of frequent buyers not being banned holds any water...

 

[Draxzelex]

Well to add to the info. I'm on 5.1.0, still using SX OS with autoRCM, play with homebrew quite a bit (mostly emulators) and have had quite a number of crashes but I haven't seen an error code notice. So far no ban, I just bought a game off eShop last night (One Strike) and checked the store and news feed today with no issues. While I have been online with cfw I have not run any backups.

I wonder if the theory of frequent buyers not being banned holds any water...

Maybe that will explain why Nintendo banned more users for running LayeredFS Offline than LayeredFS Online. If they ain't talking with their wallets, they're dead weight.

 

[GalaxyYT]

Banned: Y
Proof: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIpgAjyr7uj5CEopakbyDwbUMr6OmiXS/view?usp=sharing
Downloaded with CDN: N
Y, 5.0.2, 5.1.0
Y
SX OS used: N
SX OS used while online: N
Played online SX OS Backups: N
Layered FS Used: Y
Layered FS Used while online: Y
Played online Layered FS Injects: N
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used: Y (Basically everything under the sun. Emulators, save dumpers, etc.)
Connect to Internet with homebrew/CFW: Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew: Y
Played with Layered FS Injects with Own Cert.: N
Can you access the eShop: Y
Backups updated: N (CFW or OFW)
Wi-Fi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: N
AutoRCM: N (TX or briccmii)
Lowest SX OS Version used when Online (not used)
Auto-Update Software: N
Less Fuses Burnt than Expected: N
I did download from CDN, but they haven't banned me for anything other than using LayeredFS mods in MK8 Deluxe.
So, cheating in games only bans you from THAT game, not your whole switch.

 

[Cencil]

Banned: Y
Proof: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIpgAjyr7uj5CEopakbyDwbUMr6OmiXS/view?usp=sharing
Downloaded with CDN: N
Y, 5.0.2, 5.1.0
Y
SX OS used: N
SX OS used while online: N
Played online SX OS Backups: N
Layered FS Used: Y
Layered FS Used while online: Y
Played online Layered FS Injects: N
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used: Y (Basically everything under the sun. Emulators, save dumpers, etc.)
Connect to Internet with homebrew/CFW: Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew: Y
Played with Layered FS Injects with Own Cert.: N
Can you access the eShop: Y
Backups updated: N (CFW or OFW)
Wi-Fi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: N
AutoRCM: N (TX or briccmii)
Lowest SX OS Version used when Online (not used)
Auto-Update Software: N
Less Fuses Burnt than Expected: N
I did download from CDN, but they haven't banned me for anything other than using LayeredFS mods in MK8 Deluxe.
So, cheating in games only bans you from THAT game, not your whole switch.

So there's two different banned messages. One that indicates the console is banned, and one that tells you the software is banned..

 

[Draxzelex]

Banned: Y
Proof: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIpgAjyr7uj5CEopakbyDwbUMr6OmiXS/view?usp=sharing
Downloaded with CDN: N
Y, 5.0.2, 5.1.0
Y
SX OS used: N
SX OS used while online: N
Played online SX OS Backups: N
Layered FS Used: Y
Layered FS Used while online: Y
Played online Layered FS Injects: N
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used: Y (Basically everything under the sun. Emulators, save dumpers, etc.)
Connect to Internet with homebrew/CFW: Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew: Y
Played with Layered FS Injects with Own Cert.: N
Can you access the eShop: Y
Backups updated: N (CFW or OFW)
Wi-Fi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: N
AutoRCM: N (TX or briccmii)
Lowest SX OS Version used when Online (not used)
Auto-Update Software: N
Less Fuses Burnt than Expected: N
I did download from CDN, but they haven't banned me for anything other than using LayeredFS mods in MK8 Deluxe.
So, cheating in games only bans you from THAT game, not your whole switch.

1. Thank you for the report
2. You did not answer the questions about using nx-dreport or disabling sending error information
3. Seems like a certificate ban

 

[Astoria]

Banned: Y
Proof: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIpgAjyr7uj5CEopakbyDwbUMr6OmiXS/view?usp=sharing
Downloaded with CDN: N
Y, 5.0.2, 5.1.0
Y
SX OS used: N
SX OS used while online: N
Played online SX OS Backups: N
Layered FS Used: Y
Layered FS Used while online: Y
Played online Layered FS Injects: N
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used: Y (Basically everything under the sun. Emulators, save dumpers, etc.)
Connect to Internet with homebrew/CFW: Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew: Y
Played with Layered FS Injects with Own Cert.: N
Can you access the eShop: Y
Backups updated: N (CFW or OFW)
Wi-Fi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: N
AutoRCM: N (TX or briccmii)
Lowest SX OS Version used when Online (not used)
Auto-Update Software: N
Less Fuses Burnt than Expected: N
I did download from CDN, but they haven't banned me for anything other than using LayeredFS mods in MK8 Deluxe.
So, cheating in games only bans you from THAT game, not your whole switch.

That's not a Switch ban. It seems they banned the game?