Hacking [IMPORTANT] PSA: AutoRCM battery warning

[Deleted User]

Don't forget that even if this is a false alarm, the battery desync that will occur by leaving your Switch in RCM mode for too long is real. So don't stay in RCM mode for too long. TX people shouldn't leave their Switch on the TX menu screen because it won't sync the battery properly.

That battery desync issue can be fixed by having your switch fully charged. and Have it fully charged for about a hour or 2. And then drain the battery. And repeat until it's re synced.

 

[Deleted-442439]

It is not a completely false alarm, in some cases you would still need to open the Switch, and unplug / replug the battery if stuff hangs, so keeping the Switch charged and not leaving it in RCM is still recommended even if it can't "brick" your Switch.

 

[Deleted User]

It is not a completely false alarm, in some cases you would still need to open the Switch, and unplug / replug the battery if stuff hangs, so keeping the Switch charged and not leaving it in RCM is still recommended even if it can't "brick" your Switch.

but how would you encounter those "some cases"

 

[Deleted-442439]

but how would you encounter those "some cases"

 

[Deleted User]

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so even then, it should be a easy fix, because if it doesn't work, then let the battery die again, and then retry, and he said that the battery lock up is by sheer randomness, which means your unlikely to encounter it more than once.

 

[sj33]

That battery desync issue can be fixed by having your switch fully charged. and Have it fully charged for about a hour or 2. And then drain the battery. And repeat until it's re synced.

True, but it is still a non-trivial issue.

 

[EclipseSin]

I don't know the electrical or hardware schematics of the Switch, nor do I know what specifically happens electrically during charging

But what if we had a bunch of people armed with multimeters open their switches and check the batteries to see if any current is going into/through/whatever them during RCM while connected to a charger?

surely you devs and other people have switches and multimeters to do this right

This is actually the best way to find out because this is how trickle charging works essentially. The controller doesn't have power, but a low current is usually let through by other means which will slowly add energy to the cell(s). It does seem to work on the Switch but I won't say definitely one way or another.

I think it would be a very poor design decision though. It's pretty much inevitable a Switch battery is going to reach the same point in somebody's time with it, with or without autorcm or cfw, nor the battery actually being dead.

And yea, I just dont want to open mine by the way. I guess I can if Im forced to >_>;

 

[GBA rocks]

Let’s just agree no battery state calls for multiple switches or multiple batteries at hand.

Just some panic research on google or the forum.

 

[Deleted-442439]

Let’s just agree no battery state calls for multiple switches or multiple batteries at hand.

Just some panic research on google or the forum.

Yep, but there certainly is "battery states" in the broader definition of the term that would require a second battery

 

[kamesenin888]

so it was a false alarm, I am glad it was

 

[DarkenSX]

What are the odds of that happening?

Good question anyone have the % for this?

 

[jimmyj]

@Lacius If the battery is dead, you can't boot into RCM and then can't boot into Horizon. The Switch will not be able to do anything, as it needs to be booted into Horizon to accept a charge through the USB port.

that's strange... I was able to charge from dock in rcm...

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yeah. it charges fine. my switch has died on me while playing, so i just charge it.

same here

 

[tinkle]

This must be because of how it degrades your SoC right? Nothing to see here folks, just more fiction from @jjbredesen it seems.

 

[Deleted-442439]

This must be because of how it degrades your SoC right? Nothing to see here folks, just more fiction from @jjbredesen it seems.

Did you even read the post? This was from Reswitched who later backtracked on the issue.

 

[tinkle]

Did you even read the post? This was from Reswitched who later backtracked on the issue.

Maybe it'll serve you better to stop parroting developers, then, when you clearly have little to no understanding of what they're saying?

 

[Deleted-442439]

Maybe it'll serve you better to stop parroting developers, then, when you clearly have little to no understanding of what they're saying?

I completely understood what they were saying, if you look at the Discord that was the general consensus. Kate however later said that there was a form of charging unknown to other devs, after everyone else was certain that what I wrote in OP was the case.

It is better to be safe than sorry, so posting this was the responsible be thing to do until new information was presented.

 

[tottti1914]

so does that mean using any usb c to a (with/out 56 k ) would be the same to run payload as we cant charge in rcm ?? or do i miss somthing

 

[Deleted User]

that's strange... I was able to charge from dock in rcm...

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same here

false alarm

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Using AutoRCM at this point is a bad idea anyway. Once sleep mode is fixed, it'll be fine, but at the moment there are too many issues with Hekate to use it as a permanent solution. Not being able to access the album is also a pain as some games (at least Super Mario Odyssey) make use of it to save hints. Maybe there are Hekate payloads that don't include the HBL as photo album feature, I don't actually remember.

 

[Kioku]

Using AutoRCM at this point is a bad idea anyway. Once sleep mode is fixed, it'll be fine, but at the moment there are too many issues with Hekate to use it as a permanent solution. Not being able to access the album is also a pain as some games (at least Super Mario Odyssey) make use of it to save hints. Maybe there are Hekate payloads that don't include the HBL as photo album feature, I don't actually remember.

This. Hekate was fun to mess with... But there's no practical reason to use autorcm at this point and time.