Hacking My Rant On Gateway

[InsaneNutter]

"Palantine" CFW was available by the end of 2015 if memory serves.
Though that was a shoddy and incomplete work, and a Gateway was still far and away the superior option.

Ah yes, i think that was released the end of 2014. However if you set that up then you were stuck on an old firmware version without the ability to play newer games.

 

[metroid maniac]

Ah yes, i think that was released the end of 2014. However if you set that up then you were stuck on an old firmware version without the ability to play newer games.

Which is why I noted that Gateway was the superior choice for a while.

Then it was mayhem once rxTools was cracked. Fun times.

 

[Flame]

The thing i dont understand is why the hate.

with out Gateway we would around the same stage as Vita atm imo.

Gateway brought (yes copied) an exploit. from they people looked how the thing was done and did other stuff.


just look at blackfin on the vita it was released around the same time as henkaku. so people dont give a fuck about blackfin cause it hasnt done nothing unlike Gateway for the bigger picture of the scene.



dont get me wrong gateway has done some bad moves like brick 3DS's but what to do you expect from a company which steal other companies stuff.

 

[sj33]

"Palantine" CFW was available by the end of 2015 if memory serves.
Though that was a shoddy and incomplete work, and a Gateway was still far and away the superior option.

Palantine was leaked, not officially released. One of the firmwares that devs were sitting on while hypocritically critisising people for buying Gateway.

 

[mugendc4]

sorry a little off topic. How are you guys dual booting Gateway and Luma3DS. I haven't touch my 3DS in a long time and currently on SysNand 4.5. I still want the ability to use both Gateway3DS while still having the extra perks of Luma3DS CFW.

 

[evandixon]

sorry a little off topic. How are you guys dual booting Gateway and Luma3DS. I haven't touch my 3DS in a long time and currently on SysNand 4.5. I still want the ability to use both Gateway3DS while still having the extra perks of Luma3DS CFW.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-using-luma3ds-with-gateway-on-v2-a9lh.431691/

 

[RyDog]

I would like to express that this is merely my opinion on Gateway.
You can have a opinion on anything you want without purchasing or using it.
Think of it this way, "I'm not going to buy a Ford 5000X as my first vehicle because my friend had a Ford before and he had transmission troubles and blah blah blah... and Chevy offers the same vehicle for a whole lot cheaper." That is an opinion. I neither do or don't have to be entitled to owning a Gateway to form my opinion on it.
For the argument on "Gateway can be used as a extra SD card in my 3DS"
So you payed $70 just to have an extra storage slot in your 3DS where you could've just spent the money on a higher capacity SD card and transferred it over?
Plus, I don't think it's necessary to have that many games in your 3DS. I have a 64 GB SD Card myself were I have about 10GB of stuff that I could delete on it and it's still only half full, AND do you really play all games on your 3DS. I know that I don't, but maybe you have another say in why you need to fill both SD cards with games.
For the argument on "Gateway can be used with A9LH and Luma"
Though this will be a weak counter to this, but why isn't this on their official page? Going on their page only gives you their arm9loaderhax.bin that boots into emuNAND. Correct me if I'm wrong and the official one by them supports that, but that's what I think that .bin uses.
For the argument on "Gateway's brick code"
So it's not Gateway's fault that their code bricks a console? They never disclosed that if you use their software on a third party cart, you'd get bricked (correct me if I'm wrong on this)
Also, if I were to create a program that bricked your 3DS if you didn't use it correctly, who is at fault? As I said, they should've made it so the firmware is stored on the cart, instead of the launcher.dat so that way only the cart would be bricked if it was third party cart.
Although it hasn't been reported, but what happens if Gateway's cart has a malfunction in a firmware update or if they have a time bomb or something? Their code is not perfect, and it's closed source so no one knows for sure if it will happen in the future. Luma3DS/other custom firmwares are open source and its' mostly by the community, so devs will test thoroughly and check code to make sure that their cfw benefits the community.

And this isn't really hate. Again, it's my opinion and I felt I wanted to share. If I wanted to make this formal instead of a rant where I blatantly speak out opinions gathered from this community, friends and acquaintances, I would have bought a Gateway myself, and then I would know first hand what their problems are. Observing what community members have been complaining about in the forums for a while should be enough for me to gather my own opinion, however.

 

[DarkFlare69]

Now before I begin, this is all my opinion that I have gathered from others. I don't own a gateway, and I don't plan on owning a Gateway anytime soon.

You can't talk about Gateway until you owned one yourself and have been dissatisfied with it

 

[RyDog]

You can't talk about Gateway until you owned one yourself and have been dissatisfied with it

Read my analogy on what I just posted, and why is GBATemp so slow today?

 

[gamesquest1]

the problem starts when people start parroting other "non owners " "thoughts, and opinions", basically everyone who owns a GW card and bought one dont give a crap about all the issues people who havent and never will buy one, its like me moaning about the price of filling up the tank on a Ferrari.....while sure it might actually be expensive compared to other cars, owners of Ferrari's very rarely give 2 shits about that nugget of info

and sure you could say "oh well im warning others"....but then .......im sure anyone looking to buy one would be perfectly capable of finding real info if it wasnt for the fact there is 500 people who have never bought/owned a ferrari moaning about the price to run one or how much boot space they look like they have based on what some other guys mum told him

but again to kill another one of this bandwagon threads.....your way too late to the party, you might as well moan about the existence of game doctor VI carts because omfg why was that even made, floppy disks are so crap, they should use SD cards like the superUFO8.......time is a thing, things change with it, what was once a really good thing to have get dated and replaced by newer things gateway is already pretty much done for, everyone knows this, if anyone bought one at this point they would almost certainly have done their homework and be buying it regardless of people "rants".....or be stupid and buy without researching, in which case your rant also served no purpose

 

[lafleche]

Despite the good guide of installing a9lh and CFW I read of to many people asking for help because they are stuck somewhere or even bricked their console. And probably it is their own fault by missing some or mis-interpreting the needed steps but it also tells me it's hardly a plug-and-play proces (more plug-and-pray).

I am on 4.5 and all the work of downgrading and upgrading to finally get CFW running is too much. It's not like modding a WII or vWii and even the PSP and PsVita are a piece of cake atm. The tools for these systems are either more matured or are more a 1-click solution.

And then for what... installing cia's to play -ahum- not so legal games?
That is exactly what I can do with my Gateway and that is almost plug-and-play (drop the 3ds file on the sd-card....ready).

Unless some clever guy (or girl) finds a 1-click solution to mod my 3ds... I am not even thinking of ditching my gateway.

 

[xtheman]

Despite the good guide of installing a9lh and CFW I read of to many people asking for help because they are stuck somewhere or even bricked their console. And probably it is their own fault by missing some or mis-interpreting the needed steps but it also tells me it's hardly a plug-and-play proces (more plug-and-pray).

I am on 4.5 and all the work of downgrading and upgrading to finally get CFW running is too much. It's not like modding a WII or vWii and even the PSP and PsVita are a piece of cake atm. The tools for these systems are either more matured or are more a 1-click solution.

And then for what... installing cia's to play -ahum- not so legal games?
That is exactly what I can do with my Gateway and that is almost plug-and-play (drop the 3ds file on the sd-card....ready).

Unless some clever guy (or girl) finds a 1-click solution to mod my 3ds... I am not even thinking of ditching my gateway.

A9LH guide has gotten to near one click. Once you are on 9.2 for a new 3ds you can just boot safearm9installer then it will install.
The old 3ds still need the downgrade to 2.1 though.

 

[RyDog]

Despite the good guide of installing a9lh and CFW I read of to many people asking for help because they are stuck somewhere or even bricked their console. And probably it is their own fault by missing some or mis-interpreting the needed steps but it also tells me it's hardly a plug-and-play proces (more plug-and-pray).

I am on 4.5 and all the work of downgrading and upgrading to finally get CFW running is too much. It's not like modding a WII or vWii and even the PSP and PsVita are a piece of cake atm. The tools for these systems are either more matured or are more a 1-click solution.

And then for what... installing cia's to play -ahum- not so legal games?
That is exactly what I can do with my Gateway and that is almost plug-and-play (drop the 3ds file on the sd-card....ready).

Unless some clever guy (or girl) finds a 1-click solution to mod my 3ds... I am not even thinking of ditching my gateway.

gateway is not a plug and play flashcard. You need a entry point for it, the same as any other cfw. Sky3DS is kind of plug and play.. you just need to use their tool and then you can play your 'backups' on the latest firmware version!
I'd also like to point out Gateway's 4.5 downgrader caused a incomplete downgrade which gave me errors during my install of arm9loaderhax (injecting FBI into H&S)
also their time machine according to other people is just sysUpdater with their logo on it.

 

[RyDog]

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Don't call someone an idiot if you're not going to use punctuation.
As I said in my previous post

Think of it this way, "I'm not going to buy a Ford 5000X as my first vehicle because my friend had a Ford before and he had transmission troubles and blah blah blah... and Chevy offers the same vehicle for a whole lot cheaper." That is an opinion. I neither do or don't have to be entitled to owning a Gateway to form my opinion on it.

It's an opinion. Much like how Android vs iOS, PC vs Mac, Xbox vs Playstation, etc. flame-wars are brought upon. It's all based upon opinion. And my opinion is that Gateway to me seems like a over priced Action Replay because that's basically the only feature that sets them apart from other flashcarts/CFW's. Yet NTR cfw is slowly improving to yet again, make Gateway redundant.

 

[xtheman]

As others have stated you can't rant about something you haven't used. Gateway isn't useful nowadays because we have free CFWs. When it first came out it was the only way to play backups for a long time.

Nowadays we have easy to install luma3ds (Drag the files to the sd card).

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It's an opinion. Much like how Android vs iOS, PC vs Mac, Xbox vs Playstation, etc. flame-wars are brought upon. It's all based upon opinion. And my opinion is that Gateway to me seems like a over priced Action Replay because that's basically the only feature that sets them apart from other flashcarts/CFW's. Yet NTR cfw is slowly improving to yet again, make Gateway redundant.

Gateway to you. Someone who never used it. All you have to go by are other people. Gateway was the only way to play backups for quite some time.

 

[RyDog]

As others have stated you can't rant about something you haven't used. Gateway isn't useful nowadays because we have free CFWs. When it first came out it was the only way to play backups for a long time.

Nowadays we have easy to install luma3ds (Drag the files to the sd card).

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Gateway to you. Someone who never used it. All you have to go by are other people. Gateway was the only way to play backups for quite some time.

If I can't 'rant' about it, then shouldn't I have put in the title "Why I'm not Buying a Gateway"

 

[RyDog]

When being a bandwagon Gateway hater goes wrong

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I never said I hated them. I just think there are free and/or better alternatives.

 

[xtheman]

I never said I hated them. I just think there are free and/or better alternatives.

And there are. But way gateway came it there wasn't.

 

[stl25]

Damn my gateway works just fine and has since the day I got it (like 2 years ago). Allows me to boot using A9LH (just like CFW) and the cheats are a welcome addition. Is it the best alternative anymore? = no Is that ok with me? = yes (I got my money worth and it is still fully functional so I call that a win). Why bash a product you do not even own. Seems a bit shallow to me. I don't bash Sky3DS but seeing as my Gateway works I will not be buying it. See that simple and nobody needs to get butthurt.

 

[Inochi.no.Zenmai]

Very pointless thread. Everybody knows it isn't relevant anymore. It's overpriced and below current hacking methods and free CFW. Cheating system is good.

They have made f*** ups in the past, like a lot of companies, but overall they were very innovative and offered a solution when we were in a very dark place. These days were awful, full of rumors, fake stuff and just drowning in overall sh*tposting.

Many people didn't think they were legit, and then when they saw the stuff working they shifted their way of thinking into "Gateway is gonna sell the product like pancakes, take the money and leave their customers on their own." Three years later they still support the original cart, even for those who bought on day 1.

They might not be the recommended choice as of 2016... Hell, they're not the recommended choice as of 2016. But the cart works, their customers are doing what they paid for, and even if their development is not on the same spot as the alternatives, they still support their product like they promised to. They can have my respect for that.