Emulation [RELEASE] Cemu - Wii U emulator

[Gustavo Rossi]

Do we have any 3rd party games running on Cemu 1.4?

 

[MattGTX]

http://www.blurbusters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/realtime120fps.mp4

Direct link. In Chrome, just right click on the video and select "Download Video".

Thanks Ill try it

 

[MAVLL]

Cheez.. today i was gonna download for the first time the cemu, and i read in the website that AMD 16.3 drivers are not compatible. -.- And today i just installed.

I really hope this will be fixed

 

[Blue]

Cheez.. today i was gonna download for the first time the cemu, and i read in the website that AMD 16.3 drivers are not compatible. -.- And today i just installed.

I really hope this will be fixed

They can be uninstalled but i wouldn't know how.

 

[MAVLL]

They can be uninstalled but i wouldn't know how.

I just read, they are working in a fix for the new drivers. I will wait then.

 

[Miguel Gomez]

Do we have any 3rd party games running on Cemu 1.4?

Assassin's Creed 3 can't be playable to me(the title screen looks like Minefraft Wii U but terrible).
Bayonetta 2 has poor framerate. Same goes to Bayonetta 1.
Darksiders 2 boots fine but weak framerate.
Angry Birds can't play ingame because of missing textures and graphical glitches.
Lego games can boot but bad graphical glitches.

I think that's all I know. Lemme know if I have mistakes or so.

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Smash Bros 4 version 1.1.5 has a temporary memory leak but then goes back to 40% like there's no Memory Leak. But still, loading... screen.
It took me 2 hours to update Smash Bros 4 using NUSGrabber and Uwizard. Same goes to Splatoon.

Another thing. Minecraft Wii U goes 60FPS on the main menu. But creating or loading a world will drop to 30 and the gameplay really drops to 0.5 - 3FPS.

 

[CustomEyeBrows]

How come this project is closed source? are they planing to cash in one day? (not that they aren't already)

Open source doesnt always equal ba better product.

Just look at the Linux community and how fragmented it is. Too people with too many ideas that dont mesh/gel with one another.

 

[Darkemaste]

It's just download and open the video in the background and you Get hiyer FPS?

Pretty much, consistently works and when I close it performance jumps down.
Also dunno why it didn't occur to me to simply use the direct link for the video anyway, lol.

And in case anyone is wondering why I specifically used this video, (aside from being free and tiny ofc) after initially hearing about the "fix" with a 60fps video I initially wanted to see if I could get 120fps in Cemu with playing a 120fps video in the background.

If anyone is also wondering why my screen caps look like that it's because Cemu only takes up roughly 1/4 of my screen (1440p/120Hz monitor) normal/full-sized screen caps are to large to upload directly here, and fps isn't shown in full screen mode.

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Assassin's Creed 3 can't be playable to me(the title screen looks like Minefraft Wii U but terrible).
Bayonetta 2 has poor framerate. Same goes to Bayonetta 1.
Darksiders 2 boots fine but weak framerate.
Angry Birds can't play ingame because of missing textures and graphical glitches.
Lego games can boot but bad graphical glitches.

I think that's all I know. Lemme know if I have mistakes or so.

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Smash Bros 4 version 1.1.5 has a temporary memory leak but then goes back to 40% like there's no Memory Leak. But still, loading... screen.
It took me 2 hours to update Smash Bros 4 using NUSGrabber and Uwizard. Same goes to Splatoon.

Another thing. Minecraft Wii U goes 60FPS on the main menu. But creating or loading a world will drop to 30 and the gameplay really drops to 0.5 - 3FPS.

Oh btw I saw your video the other day and noticed this~

I did not know it was possible to actually get above 60fps in Cemu. I'm curious if you can get above 60fps in Cemu in-game in Shovel Knight or if it happens with any other game.

 

[tuanming]

OpenGL is an inferior API. Just admit already!

http://www.fotoszok.pl/upload/f2da85f0.jpg

 

[Growlith1223]

OpenGL is an inferior API. Just admit already!

http://www.fotoszok.pl/upload/f2da85f0.jpg

Congratulations, you don't know how drivers and graphics cards work!

 

[tuanming]

Congratulations, you don't know how drivers and graphics cards work!

Congratulations! You failed to provide any fact or evidence to prove to me that I'm wrong and/or explains why OpenGL got the lowest fps compare to DX12 and Vulkan in that picture! Now go home kid!

 

[Growlith1223]

Congratulations! You failed to provide any fact or evidence to prove to me that I'm wrong and/or explains why OpenGL got the lowest fps compare to DX12 and Vulkan in that picture! Now go home kid!

The use of kid doesn't affect me, sorry to say.

Now... to elaborate on exactly what i said. While Vulkan and DX12 have better performance, you don't seem to understand that, well.. let's start with DX12

DX12 is a Graphics API that was recently brought to the public with the release of Windows 10. now, if you do not know, DirectX 12 is an API exclusive to the OS Windows 10, meaning that users, which might i add are an estimated 60% of the users of this emulator, are not using Windows 10. now, yes, this is based on assumption from the fact that not everyone likes Windows 10.

Let's go to Vulkan, Vulkan is also another API that was recently released as another alternative. lemme elaborate on this more specifically, both DX12 and Vulkan have Asnychronous rendering, meaning Draw calls are split across all cores of the processor currently installed within your PC. Not everyone has 4-8 cores, meaning, this won't benefit much and can and WILL cause performance issues for people with lower specs than you. NOT TO MENTION, if you do not already know this, Vulkan is literally OpenGL with a touch-up, so, do you mind telling me how you think OpenGL is bad purely because an api that is based off of said OpenGL is better?

Regarding what i said. Drivers are there to better optimize how an API is handled through the graphics card. the Graphics card is a device that handles the byte memory of an image, or in this case, a texture, "places" it into a "buffer" sort of system, and then is displayed onto the scene, which is then rendered onto the handle of the control you specified earlier when you first create a Device context.

I hope you now understand that your image is not the same for everyone!

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Congratulations! You failed to provide any fact or evidence to prove to me that I'm wrong and/or explains why OpenGL got the lowest fps compare to DX12 and Vulkan in that picture! Now go home kid!

Exzap has previously said that the reason he uses OpenGL is because it is very similar to the GX2 functions that the Wii U already uses. Respect his decision, I'd like to see you make an emulator that can play 3 games at near full speed after only about 3 months of being public.

 

[pol40]

The use of kid doesn't affect me, sorry to say.

Now... to elaborate on exactly what i said. While Vulkan and DX12 have better performance, you don't seem to understand that, well.. let's start with DX12

DX12 is a Graphics API that was recently brought to the public with the release of Windows 10. now, if you do not know, DirectX 12 is an API exclusive to the OS Windows 10, meaning that users, which might i add are an estimated 60% of the users of this emulator, are not using Windows 10. now, yes, this is based on assumption from the fact that not everyone likes Windows 10.

Let's go to Vulkan, Vulkan is also another API that was recently released as another alternative. lemme elaborate on this more specifically, both DX12 and Vulkan have Asnychronous rendering, meaning Draw calls are split across all cores of the processor currently installed within your PC. Not everyone has 4-8 cores, meaning, this won't benefit much and can and WILL cause performance issues for people with lower specs than you. NOT TO MENTION, if you do not already know this, Vulkan is literally OpenGL with a touch-up, so, do you mind telling me how you think OpenGL is bad purely because an api that is based off of said OpenGL is better?

Regarding what i said. Drivers are there to better optimize how an API is handled through the graphics card. the Graphics card is a device that handles the byte memory of an image, or in this case, a texture, "places" it into a "buffer" sort of system, and then is displayed onto the scene, which is then rendered onto the handle of the control you specified earlier when you first create a Device context.

I hope you now understand that your image is not the same for everyone!

You are wrong, Dolphin DX12 in cherry-trail X5 Z8500 :



Try this with DX11 or OpenGL, are 20 or 25% slower.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

You are wrong, Dolphin DX12 in cherry-trail X5 Z8500 :



Try this with DX11 or OpenGL, are 20 or 25% slower.

I will agree that DX12 was built to be very efficient, fast, and "console-like" (read: similar to XBone's), but in this particular case it sounds like the emulator actually benefits from using OpenGL as there is less interpreting that needs to be done

(@Exzap please correct me if I'm misunderstanding this)

 

[Growlith1223]

You are wrong, Dolphin DX12 in cherry-trail X5 Z8500 :



Try this with DX11 or OpenGL, are 20 or 25% slower.

Once again you completely missed my statement of not everything works the same on everyone's PCs. that's like me saying if i can run a hundred miles, you can too. it doesn't work like that out of the box.


To add more into the notion of DX12 and Vulkan, by using them as the primary graphics library, you are limiting your userbase by quite a lot. what would you rather have, a userbase of 10 members? or a base of 100?

What you provided is a quad core device that is fully capable of taking advantage of the Async rendering, i'd like to see proof of, oh good example, intel core 2 duo since here it's fairly common to have, running DX12. at the same FPS

EDIT to comment on what TotalInstanity said, OpenGL is much simpler to use versus DirectX purely because of all the crap that you have to do in DirectX just to get a scene rendered, OpenGL is a much easier library to use, hence why most people go for it instead.

 

[pol40]

Once again you completely missed my statement of not everything works the same on everyone's PCs. that's like me saying if i can run a hundred miles, you can too. it doesn't work like that out of the box.


To add more into the notion of DX12 and Vulkan, by using them as the primary graphics library, you are limiting your userbase by quite a lot. what would you rather have, a userbase of 10 members? or a base of 100?

What you provided is a quad core device that is fully capable of taking advantage of the Async rendering, i'd like to see proof of, oh good example, intel core 2 duo since here it's fairly common to have, running DX12. at the same FPS

A slower CPU than a cherry-trail is almost impossible to find.
A core 2 duo in 2016 ? hahahaha good try.
You should have said a 486 dx lol

 

[Growlith1223]

A slower CPU than a cherry-trail is almost impossible to find.
A core 2 duo in 2016 ? hahahaha good try.
You should have said a 486 dx lol

was just giving an example of a very low cpu, there's still tons of people on potato PCs that are trying to run this emulator. some of them have even posted in this thread too.

im loving the misinformed people constantly trying to fight with examples of niche cases xD

 

[Miguel Gomez]

Comparison Video:


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How to make coins visible. I saw some have coins in it.

 

[shideravan]

Comparison Video:

Where's 1.4.0?