Smoking and your significant other.

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I would personally never consider going out with someone who smoked. If they want to make a commitment then they'll have to quit first :P Which is not to say that I would not be their friend and help them through the quitting process
 

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I'm going to give you my two cents even though it is generally unpopular:
I wouldn't mind if my girlfriend started smoking. We both rarely smoke cigars and neither of us have tried cigarettes or anything illegal. I have smoked hookah probably about 10 times. I have no problem with smoking in cigarettes, cigars, hookah, or vaping in moderation. My philosophy is that we should smoke because we don't HAVE to smoke. I never smoke when I'm depressed, angry, or sad. I smoke (rarely) because it is enjoyable.
If my girlfried started smoking, I wouldn't mind. It would not be a dealbreaker when it comes to marriage. I wouldn't like her to smoke in the house because I'm extremely cheap and would not want the property to be damaged.
I have a vape pen which I rarely use. None of the flavors that I have include nicotene. It's not as fun to smoke because of the lack of nicotine.
I think some of the government campaigns against smoking are absolutely immoral especially all of those stupid commercials by the Ad Council. While they are right about some things, they use fear tactics with intentionally misleading information. I find it ironic that the jobs of the people involved in all of this anti tobacco nonsence are dependant upon the extra high taxes of people buying tobacco.
I know smoking is bad for your health, but you shouldn't necessarily avoid something just because it is harmful. Now before everyone kills me for making this statement, they should hear me out. Fast food is generally also bad for your health. Fast food companies try to make the food as addicting as possible. They entice kids with stupid toys. Still very few people look at people who eat fast food the same way as they look at smokers.
Bottom line: I wouldn't mind if my girlfriend was a smoker as long as it was in moderation. Sorry for the long rant.
 
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I would date a smoker as long as they were respectful and smoked outside. I smoked myself for a few years but stopped 15 years ago when my daughter was born so I know how hard it is to go without one. I would try to coax them into going to a vape though.

I started chew a few years ago and then got a vape to calm down on that. I do my best to be respectful of others and don't vape in their cars or homes if they don't want me to. I still try to do it discretely even then so it doesn't bother them or even use snus if I think they are just being kind.

Sure there might be a lot of assholes that do it because they think they are the shit for using a vape but that goes for cigs too.

I don't think it is a fad because of the mass movement of people trying to get their fix and not wanting to smoke cigs anymore. I used to get bronchitis all the time when I used cigs but with a vape there is none of that. Just the people like me could keep the market alive.
 
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I've always found smoking dumb, so a smoker is definitely a negative in my books. I wouldn't judge someone purely on that fact however. People can do what they want with their own lives and as long as they buy them with their own money and don't smoke next to other people I don't really have a problem with it.
 
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There are some very wonderful people in my life who are/were unfortunately smokers. Granted, none of them are very heavy smokers, but I still try to persuade them to stop, telling them about the money they could save or their improved health after quitting. Some have already quit cold turkey, others are looking at better alternatives. I would not mind going out with somebody if they smoked, as long as they don't take it out of control.
 

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If you're gonna get high, vaporize or eat it. I used to smoke both weed and cigarettes(sometimes cigars too) and that shit will make you cough like crazy, make it hard to exercise and is obviously terrible for you as a whole. Vaporizers are your friend, especially with weed. With nicotine, I find that the gum is the most effective for quitting but your mileage may vary. If you vaporize and/or eat it, weed is pretty much harmless(safest drug in the world, caffeine included) but it will give you serious munchies if you're on a strict diet like I am.

Nicotine is terrible for you no matter what, but I see no problem with cannabis use. The fact that smoking it is the most common method of administration is unfortunate though.
 
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You have to consider two facts - there's shitloads of air in the room and you have legs to move as well as a mouth to speak with if I'm bothering you. The concentration of smoke (or, in your case, fart) in a room with a smoker is nowhere near high enough to cause you any harm, especially if the smoker is seated in a ventillated smoking area and you're in the non-smoking area as things used to work in the past. Unless someone blows smoke directly into your face (or sticks his/her buttcheeks to it, let's not break the analogy), you have next to no chance of any negative health-related consequences. If someone does do that for whatever reason, tell that person to stop or move - it's not hard. But no, the ban sorted that out - the long arm of the law just kicked smokers out of pubs because crybabies wanted to leave the non-smoking area and spoil everyone's fun. Eff you - I always went to pubs to drink and smoke, the majority of pub goers do, that's what the pubs are for, and I hate the fact that all this is done under the guise of health benefits. I'll tell you something ridiculous - I went to a hospital recently and wanted a quick ciggy. No smoking room, but that's okay - I expected it to be prohibited indoors since it's a medical facility - that's understandable. I went outside... Still prohibited. Park next to the hospital? Not allowed. Went to the car park - no less than 200 cars there... Smoking prohibited. I had to leave the whole complex, which was no small feat as it is huge, in order to smoke *outside* where my smoke can't *possibly* bother anyone - that's overkill, that's insane.

Oh boo hoo hoo, I'm sorry the well-being of others is interfering with your addiction.

I would really love to see some numbers on the "shitloads of air in the room" and "no harm" claim, because generally with industrial pollutants (like tar and ash), if you are able to smell them, the concentration has exceeded the legal limit by an order of magnitude. And you are definitely able to smell when someone is smoking in the same room.

As a rule in civilized society, if others can smell your farts, you are being an inconsiderate asshole. Likewise for cigarette smoke. Clearly telling people to stop or move doesn't work (probably because the type of asshat that would fart in a crowded room in the first place is the type of passive aggressive dick who would not be willing to move without a fight) and douchebags absolutely refused to behave like members of a society without being literally forced to, to the point that a law had to be drawn just to force them to stop. And it's not in any way preventing you from smoking, it's just preventing you from doing it in other people's faces.

Now, as someone said, there's shitloads of places you can still smoke, you have the legs to move there, as well as the mouth to complain about it if it's bothering you. Something you're taking ample advantage of (while accusing others of being crybabies, funnily enough).

I would say (sarcastically, of course) I was so sorry a law is impeding your right to negatively affect others, but if it takes an actual law to stop you from being an inconsiderate dick, I'm not the one who should be apologizing.


tl;dr: I beg you don't cry ;O;
 

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Oh boo hoo hoo, I'm sorry the well-being of others is interfering with your addiction.

I would really love to see some numbers on the "shitloads of air in the room" and "no harm" claim, because generally with industrial pollutants (like tar and ash), if you are able to smell them, the concentration has exceeded the legal limit by an order of magnitude. And you are definitely able to smell when someone is smoking in the same room.

As a rule in civilized society, if others can smell your farts, you are being an inconsiderate asshole. Likewise for cigarette smoke. Clearly telling people to stop or move doesn't work (probably because the type of asshat that would fart in a crowded room in the first place is the type of passive aggressive dick who would not be willing to move without a fight) and douchebags absolutely refused to behave like members of a society without being literally forced to, to the point that a law had to be drawn just to force them to stop. And it's not in any way preventing you from smoking, it's just preventing you from doing it in other people's faces.

Now, as someone said, there's shitloads of places you can still smoke, you have the legs to move there, as well as the mouth to complain about it if it's bothering you. Something you're taking ample advantage of (while accusing others of being crybabies, funnily enough).

I would say (sarcastically, of course) I was so sorry a law is impeding your right to negatively affect others, but if it takes an actual law to stop you from being an inconsiderate dick, I'm not the one who should be apologizing.

tl;dr: I beg you don't cry ;O;
I'm sorry that my fancy is interfering with your unreasonable butthurt and an obsession regarding smoke. You also have two legs and can move if the environment you find yourself in is unpleasant to you. I have a right to fill my lungs with smoke and you have a right to find that distasteful, what you don't have a right to do is tell me that I can't fill my lungs with smoke on the odd chance that you'll walk past me - you have the right to avoid me, thus neither of us is inconvenienced. I can sit in my cool pub for cool people who aren't terrible buzzkills while you can sit in your smoke-free hipster bar for ponces - we'll both be a lot happier.
 

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I'm all for Hookah and vape pens/batteries!! Anything else is a no go. Cigarettes are disgusting, and I'm not all for cigars anymore, since the tobacco can actually get into your mouth if you're not careful. Who would want to kiss their significant other if they have a burning taste or tobacco leaves in their mouth? :S Hookah and Vape are all about taste, really.
 

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But you have no right to fill anyone else's. End of discussion.
And I don't. I'm not blowing smoke directly into your lung - you're inhaling it as an indirect consequence of your choice to be in my vicinity. If you see me smoking from a distance and choose to approach me, you have as much right to complain as I do if you drive your car by me and "force me" to inhale your exhaust fumes. You can be high and mighty all you want, but fact of the matter is that I'm not forcing you to inhale my smoke - you're forcing me to stop smoking.
 

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And I don't. I'm not blowing smoke directly into your lung - you're inhaling it as an indirect consequence of your choice to be in my vicinity.
So if you walk in and I don't leave, I am making a choice to be in your vicinity? It doesn't work that way.

you're forcing me to stop smoking.
Nope.
 
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