Hacking Creating a North American, non-XL New 3DS

[Wowfunhappy]

Tell them to keep it but delete wireless profiles and turn off wireless?
Exploitable 3DSes are always good fun for science and testbeds.

What can you actually do with a 9.2 system without internet access though? You can't install Ninjhax and you can't enter the gateway menu.

Sure, you could turn wifi on briefly, but just look at how many people have accidentally downloaded the update nag, particularly before we knew the trick to deleting them. My feeling is, if some people screw up and draw Nintendo's attention, it could end up hurting everyone else. Better to give guidelines that don't allow for accidents.

For what it's worth: broken Old 3DS's really don't go for that much: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-3D...856?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c5103a5e0
Searching past eBay auctions for Old 3DS's that actually sold (got at least one bid) this was the most recent one I could find, and it's actually still quite functional—it can connect to the internet and everything, just not read game carts.

 

[dkabot]

What can you actually do with a 9.2 system without internet access though? You can't install Ninjhax and you can't enter the gateway menu.

Sure, you could turn wifi on briefly, but just look at how many people have accidentally downloaded the update nag, particularly before we knew the trick to deleting them. My feeling is, if some people screw up and draw Nintendo's attention, it could end up hurting everyone else. Better to give guidelines that don't allow for accidents.

Ah, right.
I guess same guidelines as a donor header cart? Keep but do not touch without adult supervision being absolutely sure what you're doing?

 

[gamesquest1]

I'm going to need to think about this. I completely agree with you, but somehow—as much as I think that continuing to use donor systems is a bad idea—telling people to intentionally brick their systems sounds wrong. I don't know how that's any better than suggesting that the system be thrown away, but I also don't directly tell people to do that... I don't know.

yeah but its still good for parts screen etc..... just be clear in the listing....maybe even just put a public shared secureinfo on it and sell it as such on gbatemp, im sure someone would want it for a bargain price, but still some money back in your pocket from it

basically im speaking from a repair guys perspective, having a good parts console is handy and if i can get them cheap enough im happy to pick them up......as long as your clear about whats wrong with it people can make up their own mind if they want it, but i understand its not big money but still at the very least donate it to someone who can make use of it rather than bin it

 

[Wowfunhappy]

basically im speaking from a repair guys perspective, having a good parts console is handy and if i can get them cheap enough im happy to pick them up......

Believe me, I get it. Also, as someone who actually cares a lot about the environment, I don't like encouraging people to throw things away in general.

That said: Look at all of the completed eBay listings for broken 3DS's, and look at how many of them actually sold: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&_nkw=broken 3ds&rt=nc

 

[Click This]

Let's say I manage to get eShop working on a NA firmware on my JP N3DS. Would it be possible to reflash a JP NAND with eShop access and buy some stuff and still have the NA eShop working dandy when that is reflashed?

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Let's say I manage to get eShop working on a NA firmware on my JP N3DS. Would it be possible to reflash a JP NAND with eShop access and still have the NA eShop working dandy when that is reflashed?

No one has tested, but almost certainly not. You probably wouldn't get into the JP eShop to begin with.

You'd have to repeat the process of NA eShop with NNID -> NA eShop without NNID -> JP with NNID.

 

[Click This]

No one has tested, but almost certainly not.

I would have to go through all the steps to re-enable it, then?

 

[Wowfunhappy]

I would have to go through all the steps to re-enable it, then?

Not every single step in the guide, heck no.

To fix the Japanese eShop, you'd need to connect to the NA eShop first with an NNID, then without an NNID, and finally connect to the JP eShop with an NNID. Do the same in reverse to fix the NA eShop again.

 

[Click This]

Not every single step in the guide, heck no.

To fix the Japanese eShop, you'd need to connect to the NA eShop first with an NNID, then without an NNID, and finally connect to the JP eShop with an NNID. Do the same in reverse to fix the NA eShop again.

Oh no -- I just meant the relevant steps.

If I already have a JP NNID, would I still need a dummy account, or would it be a no-go if I actually want to use it?

 

[dkabot]

Oh no -- I just meant the relevant steps.

If I already have a JP NNID, would I still need a dummy account, or would it be a no-go if I actually want to use it?

The order of with/without just seems to be there to make it work.
As far as I know we're not using a dummy account knowing it'll get banned.
Trying to use a JP NNID when connecting to the US eShop, now that's a ban. However, that's not at all what's being done here, so yeah.

I guess just make sure to unlink after the initial backup. You'd pretty much need to in order to follow this order, though.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Trying to use a JP NNID when connecting to the US eShop, now that's a ban

Eh, I think it's more likely to just not work tbh.

You don't need to use a dummy account, no, just some NNID from that region. Any particular part of the guide (If that's what you're looking at) that is making this unclear?

 

[Scarftail]

I'm very thankful for the willful endeavors of everyone who made this possible.

 

[Spongeworthy]

Any chance of writing up a guide for emuNAND?

 

[tony_2018]

What can you actually do with a 9.2 system without internet access though? You can't install Ninjhax and you can't enter the gateway menu.

Sure, you could turn wifi on briefly, but just look at how many people have accidentally downloaded the update nag, particularly before we knew the trick to deleting them. My feeling is, if some people screw up and draw Nintendo's attention, it could end up hurting everyone else. Better to give guidelines that don't allow for accidents.

For what it's worth: broken Old 3DS's really don't go for that much: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-3D...856?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c5103a5e0
Searching past eBay auctions for Old 3DS's that actually sold (got at least one bid) this was the most recent one I could find, and it's actually still quite functional—it can connect to the internet and everything, just not read game carts.

So its a no-go on recovery huh? Man you must've burnt something out, you had it working after the bricking, than it wouldn't boot anymore. Strange.

 

[Lucifer666]

Hey guys I'm a little confused as to where cubic ninja comes into all of this

Or am I mistaken and cubic ninja isn't needed at all?

I have a Jap N3DS that I wanna make american

 

[ubergeek77]

Whooo! Here it is, the big guide. This took foreeeeever to write and I'm still not done <_<

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1na-_D5UEemPR3yMU7KaVzppwAfzD6lbU-22u4gutOF8/edit?usp=sharing

Consider this an alpha build—all the content is there, but it needs to be fixed and improved. Hence why it's currently Google Doc—I'm still making changes.

PLEASE leave comments—either here or in the Google doc itself—on any steps that I have might have missed, or anything that could be explained more clearly.

Note that the following were my goals in writing this guide, in order of priority:
1) Be as safe as possible.
2) Be as inexpensive as possible
3) Be as easy to understand as possible
4) Take as little time as possible.

Also, if anyone could actually run through and test all the steps, that would be great, as my New 3DS obviously isn't in a condition to do so.

Totally going to volunteer to be the noob and ask questions:

I'm going to assume a NAND mod is only required for eShop access, soooo...

• Are your instructions still good for emuNAND? (With discretion on my part, of course)
• Can I use any available online services that don't require me to be on the latest version? (SpotPass, to name one)

(For what it's worth, I have two spare O3DS systems from the region I want to change my emuNAND to, one with and one without a NNID. Although the one without the NNID has been on the eShop once, via rxTools.)

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Any chance of writing up a guide for emuNAND?

No, sorry.

Totally going to volunteer to be the noob and ask questions:

I'm going to assume a NAND mod is only required for eShop access, soooo...

• Are your instructions still good for emuNAND? (With discretion on my part, of course)
• Can I use any available online services that don't require me to be on the latest version? (SpotPass, to name one)

(For what it's worth, I have two spare O3DS systems from the region I want to change my emuNAND to, one with and one without a NNID. Although the one without the NNID has been on the eShop once, via rxTools.)

Yes to your second question, and "kind of" to your first.

For emuNAND, there's a lot of things you'd need to do differently. You can't use NTR to install the US titles, and I don't think you can use Yifan_lu's swap-region homebrew app either. But you could use the instructions as a general framework.

I know that a lot of people want to use emuNAND, but I personally just have almost zero interest in it. It was a nice way to experiment early on, but now.... eh. I actually sold my Gateway the day before yesterday.

 

[ubergeek77]

Yes to your second question, and "kind of" to your first.

For emuNAND, there's a lot of things you'd need to do differently. You can't use NTR to install the US titles, and I don't think you can use Yifan_lu's swap-region homebrew app either. But you could use the instructions as a general framework.

I know that a lot of people want to use emuNAND, but I personally just have almost zero interest in it. It was a nice way to experiment early on, but now.... eh. I actually sold my Gateway the day before yesterday.

Great, thanks - pretty much what I was expecting. I should be able to substitute those particular steps in by myself - no problem. Glad to see that this progressed so quickly. Once these little issues are out of the way, I think I'll be good to go.

Thanks for the guide!

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Once these little issues are out of the way, I think I'll be good to go.

That's easy.

In FBI:

44) You will see a list of titles on the bottom screen. Locate and delete EVERY title that either starts with "CTR-J-" or "CTR-P-", or ends "J" or "P".

 

[ubergeek77]

That's easy.

In FBI:

Is that just for the duplicate titles, or will it solve these too?

The amiibo nfc thing works great, I could play Xenoblade, everything runs okay. Buuut, I ended with a buggy console. I played a few rounds of Smash but the console crashed if:
-Wake up from sleep mode
-Pressed home if anything is open (except for things like Web Browser, Themes and Amiibo config)
-Streetpassed somebody