Hacking [SPECULATION] SSSpwn allows kernel access?

[gudenau]

PSP Go itself was bad because it was ahead of its time; at its release, America at least just wasn't ready for an all-digital device. You'd be surprised at how many people rely on physical copies and don't do digital at all.

The PSP in general floundered near the end because of lack of games, obviously. Piracy was probably a contributing factor, as well, but piracy was prevalent on the DS as well. The Vita is floundering the same fashion and is not affected by piracy at all right now. Nintendo does so well in the handheld space because of prior success as well as successful first party games to attract third party developers.

To be a 3rd party, you need an office with a good safe at least. :-/

 

[gypsynimrod]

PSP Go itself was bad because it was ahead of its time; at its release, America at least just wasn't ready for an all-digital device. You'd be surprised at how many people rely on physical copies and don't do digital at all.

The PSP in general floundered near the end because of lack of games, obviously. Piracy was probably a contributing factor, as well, but piracy was prevalent on the DS as well. The Vita is floundering the same fashion and is not affected by piracy at all right now. Nintendo does so well in the handheld space because of prior success as well as successful first party games to attract third party developers.

I doubt it sold poorly because it was ahead of its time. The sale of UMDs alone and the cost to produce them weren't compatible (low sales, high cost to produce). The PSP was practically a dead man walking when the Go came out.

 

[Kakkoii]

so dont import games, importing games to a region its not playable in is also supporting the bullshit idea of region locking, if you want to get rid of region locking, stop buying games from different regions other than your own

although its easier to buy the game then bitch about how you can't play it on your console

Not all games are released in every region, you know this very well. And no, it's not supporting the idea of region locking because you're doing something to get around the region lock. Please, use your brain a bit more.

 

[flarn2006]

To be a 3rd party, you need an office with a good safe at least. :-/

Why is Nintendo so worried about that? It's not like the stuff they give developers could be easily used to create an exploit for non-development 3DSes, right?

 

[elmoemo]

I'd say Devs would be closer to an exploit than the rest of us but I'm no expert so couldn't say for certain.

 

[Fishaman P]

If Ninjhax is indeed exploiting Cubic Ninja to get the opportunity to exploit the FW, then kernel access seems very plausible to me.
But again, that hinges on Ninjhax exploiting the FW.
I can really only see a reason to do that if the FW somehow blocks code execution from within Cubic Ninja, but then how would the FW be exploited in the first place?

I really can't make heads or tails of this without looking into the exploit more. The source for the Homebrew Launcher may provide a few clues.

 

[NyaakoXD]

ok ok ok ok, i don't really care enough to give details but i'll say the following and i promise i'm not lying :

1. govanify is full of shit and doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. if he'd actually "reversed it in 2h" he'd know better than to say what he's saying and to use tweets and quotes from an interview as proof (lol)
2. ninjhax does not at any point get unsigned code to run in kernel mode. there's really nothing more to say about that.
3. doing region free on the 3DS does not require kernel mode code exec. again, not much more to say about that.
4. if a part of hbmenu's code actually signified beyond the shadow of a doubt that i've been lying about the nature of the exploit do you seriously think i'd have been dumb enough to a) make it so obvious and b) make hbmenu open source at all ? if so i'm a little insulted.

to sum it up in one word :

please

Once again, re-quoting... =_=;

 

[gypsynimrod]

so dont import games, importing games to a region its not playable in is also supporting the bullshit idea of region locking, if you want to get rid of region locking, stop buying games from different regions other than your own

although its easier to buy the game then bitch about how you can't play it on your console

If resellers are seeing an influx of sales from one specific region that is outside of the traditional, word gets to the publisher which pushes them to release the game in a new region. Sales of specific games have fuckall to do with the holds on region locking or your psuedo-boycott of the standard.

 

[Vengenceonu]

Regardless of what Govanify says (all untrue btw) all he really cares about is his Notoriety. His name is being associated with "liberating" the scene from "smug devs".

Here's what he says he has:

Spoiler

Here's what he actually has:

Spoiler

 

[Quicksilver88]

Ok I just have to give my two cents on PSP and some of this 3DS HB drama as well.

First, the PSP unhacked sucked......period and period. The battery life was terrible,the UMS was noisy, slow, and sort of a shitty idea (Sans maybe as a movie format for the time). When the PSP got hacked it was a totally different device. Suddenly We could ditch the UMD and run everything from Memstick, we got the 333mhz unlock which that with loading from Ms made many games much much better. Ditching UMD also helped batter life. Also we got the extra brightness level on battery. Next game plugins, popsloader, psp iso converting tools.....I mean 1/2 the games I played on PSP were PSX RPGs I never got to.

The PsP go was an interesting 'response' by Sony but the form factor really was awful and it sold like crap....too little too late....

There were more than 1% good games on psp and in the end it had a pretty good library. What true gamer really buys shovelware? It mostly sucks for parents/kids.....not sure if PSP or Wii got more shitware.......lol

The PSP really was a great HomeBrew machine that had good media players, emulators, and even apps. I think a hacked Vita would make a super HB machine, but in truth the 3DS is really not going to be much. Its hardware is too specialized and its screen resolution is poo. What the hell are we going to do with it? Emulators (16bit maybe), Media players (no way it does x264).....so WTF do ppl want so badly?

We already have GW and MT and now 4.5 CFW for those that want games, we have emunand and wide open Kernel for 4.5, we may have a full/true 9.x exploit coming from GW. To those bitching about the 7.x keys leak....uh well it finally got MT up to speed which is nice for those that own it and we can also decrypt all roms.....thats something.

Again WTF do ppl want other than drama and bitching? I myself spent $75 on GW last fall and it has been worth it all the way. I am loving the scene and I am not waiting on pins and needles for Smea hack or free rom loaders.....

Last point and that is just because I dont give a shit about 3DS HB does not mean any diss to all the great devs who work on this stuff....sorry you have to put up with so many whiny demanding bitches.....its all part of the deal I guess.

 

[Kunoha]

not trying to be a dick here but if you're willing to spend the money on importing games, maybe you should import a 3ds from that region as well instead of relying on people to hack the 3ds so you can play games you bought

just my $0.02

I can only have 1 3DS at a time, so it's pointless to have multiple systems for myself. (darn my folks at home.)

 

[NyaakoXD]

I can only have 1 3DS at a time, so it's pointless to have multiple systems for myself. (darn my folks at home.)

Well, smea already said that he'll be working on getting rid of the region-lock. Of course, that's only if you have Cubic Ninja and have the homebrew launcher installed.

 

[memomo]

Added smealum response to the first post

 

[loco365]

y u do dis we ned kenral acess
so thta we cn ply pirated gaem

I cannot like this hard enough.

He has a really big point. Literally, the sole reason people want kernel access is so that people can pirate games. Literally, that is all. I'm pretty sure usermode is perfectly fine as it is, I don't see the problem with being limited on such a limited system for homebrew. As long as it works, it works.

 

[daicon]

I cannot like this hard enough.

He has a really big point. Literally, the sole reason people want kernel access is so that people can pirate games. Literally, that is all. I'm pretty sure usermode is perfectly fine as it is, I don't see the problem with being limited on such a limited system for homebrew. As long as it works, it works.

Or you know:

Custom Firmware
Region Free
ROM Translations/edits
cheats
cia installs
GBA on native hardware
Take screenshots ingame

And most of all:
Emunand for when this eventually gets patched and will no longer work

 

[the_randomizer]

I cannot like this hard enough.

He has a really big point. Literally, the sole reason people want kernel access is so that people can pirate games. Literally, that is all. I'm pretty sure usermode is perfectly fine as it is, I don't see the problem with being limited on such a limited system for homebrew. As long as it works, it works.

Because, it's an obligatory thing for people on the internet to want to have everything there is to offer no matter how ridiculous the demands may be.

 

[TidusWulf]

PSP Go itself was bad because it was ahead of its time; at its release, America at least just wasn't ready for an all-digital device. You'd be surprised at how many people rely on physical copies and don't do digital at all.

The PSP in general floundered near the end because of lack of games, obviously. Piracy was probably a contributing factor, as well, but piracy was prevalent on the DS as well. The Vita is floundering the same fashion and is not affected by piracy at all right now. Nintendo does so well in the handheld space because of prior success as well as successful first party games to attract third party developers.

Lol I'm in this boat. I NEED my hard copies.

 

[gypsynimrod]

Or you know:

Custom Firmware
Region Free
ROM Translations/edits
cheats
cia installs
GBA on native hardware
Take screenshots ingame

And most of all:
Emunand for when this eventually gets patched and will no longer work

CFW is a nullpoint since it has no benefits now.
Smea is working on region free.
You can have this one.
What ever happened to cheats? Smea got popular because of his advancements in Pokemon.
Is this not just pirated games for the most part?
Native hardware – what? This would rely on a pre-existing GBA 1:1 playthrough on the 3DS, but all we have is Nintendo's semi-emulator that was given to Ambassadors. Hell, an unofficial emulator might run better.
Is this even available through any means?

 

[daicon]

Because, it's an obligatory thing for people on the internet to want to have everything there is to offer no matter how ridiculous the demands may be.

Or we could acknowledge there are many legitimate, worthy reasons to want kernel access that don't have to do with piracy.

It's just straight up ignorant to deny them, and even worse to fool yourself into thinking you can build a scene off an exploit requiring an obscure game that needs to be tediously launched everytime and will be patched out in around a few weeks or so.

You need Kernel access for emunand so that you can spoof and still have, you know, a damn functioning device that plays the games you buy.

 

[loco365]

Or you know:

Custom Firmware - Eh, ok that has a bit of merit, not much.
Region Free - From what I've been told, that doesn't actually require kernel access.
ROM Translations/edits - I don't think kernel access is needed, but I'd have to check. If anything, just run a form of patch rather than patch a rom.
cheats - I believe these are possible within the extent of this particular exploit. I'd have to check.
cia installs - If anything, most of the permissions that are granted by installing are just as viable with Ninjhax.
GBA on native hardware - It's not really native hardware, but that could just be done via ram injection. That, or just emulate with some kind of open-source emulator.
Take screenshots ingame - If anything, just dump from usermode (iirc it's stored there) the framebuffers that Game Notes uses.

And most of all:
Emunand for when this eventually gets patched and will no longer work - Don't really need this. If you mod your system and backup your NAND, you can just downgrade when it is patched.

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