Hacking Gateway support for Firmware 9.0 – 9.2 Coming

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There could be other reasons, such as why upgrade from 4.5 to 9.2 if it already works fine as it is. Plus, if you upgrade now, you'll have to wait for the exploit to come out to even use the card.

There are some reasons when it's better to have 9.x if both have the same features :) (You can play retail games without having to launch emunand for example, and I can found some others, if you want. No big reasons but if it have the same feature, they are no reason either to stay on 4.x).

So if both versions have exactly the same features, there is no need to gateway team to say to stay at 4.x, even when their new update will be released.

And even if 9.x just load roms like the sky3DS (no emunand, no region-free), it's still a good thing, right? (even if you need one SD card per game, like before, at least, you know you'll be able to play more than 10 games, you'll just need to have two/three sd cards to switch between them). And if it's a sky3DS-like thing, maybe they'll release a new version of the gateway with a switch, who knows?

This is the main problem, if you are on 5.X or higher, the kernel-mode exploit is fixed, if you are on 7.X or higher, the user-mode exploit is fixed.

You can't use a rom (no matter if e-shop or not) to run gateway on 9.X, it must be a new exploit or it wouldn't work at all.

You can't even use gateway in 9.X to make a software upgrade in order to change it into a sky3ds solution, something like that doesn't work without a 4.5 3ds.

Since they say it works on 9.X it means they found a full hack, otherwise you couldn't run roms and there would be no point in waiting.

No full hack = No rom loading.

But if you are on 4.x, you can use roms/eshop games so if the reason "they say to stay on 4.x to avoid you buying a game" don't seem logic (and even if you would require an original game, I'm sure most 4.x users wouldn't mind to buy the game).

why am I under the impression that all of us in NA are fucked? Sky3ds, ssspwn and GW will release their "big guns" way before N3DS comes out here :(

Buy a japanese one? (or an australian one, if you want menus in english).
 

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(and even if you would require an original game, I'm sure most 4.x users wouldn't mind to buy the game).

tbh i would mind a little, thats why i bought a gw in the first place ;) ;P
but i would still probably buy it to keep the piracy going ^_^
 

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No its 8.x. You have to import 1 quick and update it to 9.2 before Nintendo pushed 9.3

Wonder what the NZ new3ds fw will be.... will find out on Friday when I pick it up. If it is less than 9.0 hopefully Nintendo haven't pushed a new update by then.
 

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Wonder what the NZ new3ds fw will be.... will find out on Friday when I pick it up. If it is less than 9.0 hopefully Nintendo haven't pushed a new update by then.
Wouldn't surprise me if they pushed out a new update alongside the release of the australian New 3DS and ORAS.
Especially with all the buzz surrounding SKY3DS, Gateway's 9.x compatibility and Smea's homebrew.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 

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Ruby and Sapphire 3D will have 9.0 at most, don't panic. Also, there's a slim chance that the N3DS for the US will come with the current 9.2 firmware... well, if it gets to be release by January. Does someone know the exact month of the release?
 

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Wouldn't surprise me if they pushed out a new update alongside the release of the australian New 3DS and ORAS.
Especially with all the buzz surrounding SKY3DS, Gateway's 9.x compatibility and Smea's homebrew.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Probably wouldn't matter much if Nintendo did. I suspect Sky3DS and its ilk to be 1:1 clones/ODE-alike and that they do not use a software exploit. An update would be hard to stop the Sky3DS as its use of "templates" increases its ability to hide as a retail cart. That template reminds me of the EZ5's saver list and its clean mode... It would have been all but indestructible if they hadn't folded to complaints by people who didn't understand its advantages and killed clean mode, but I digress.

Regardless though, it is unlikely that Nintendo has had time to study the Sky3DS enough to combat it, if they have one. Since ssspwn is still not out in the wild they do not know how to combat it at all, and I suspect it is also not a priority since it will not allow executing warez. Ssspwn has survived many updates, if Nintendo was at all aware of the hole that allows it they would have fixed it already. The 3DS HB channel is probably safe for a bit as is Sky3DS.

GW has not released their 9.x solution and, again, it is almost impossible for Nintendo to combat it before they have their hands on it. Unless they are actively putting flaws in their security, they do not know where these entry points are and will need to reverse engineer the exploits once they can get their hands on them. That will take time. 9.3 maybe coming already, but it is highly unlikely it will stop any of the recent announcements.

Oh... GW's advice to stay on 4.x may simply be because that the "Blue Cartridge" has been blocked since 5.x (or whichever version blocked it). W/ their new system you are going to need a new DS cart (or something (retail game maybe?)) if you update.

I'm waiting to see. I do have some educated guesses as to what will happen next though and I am preparing for them.
 
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No its 8.x. You have to import 1 quick and update it to 9.2 before Nintendo pushed 9.3

No need to quickly buy one just for the firmware. You can get a game than will have 9.x on it and just update through it. I assume Pokemon RO/SA have a big probablity to have 9.x in it.

And Nintendo might not update it before months.

Even if they do, cartridges are manufactured weeks before, so games with 9.x won't have the 9.3 directly.
 

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I'm guessing there's no way to tell whether or not Pokemon Ruby or Smash would work online with the Gateway.
 

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Something I find very entertaining is coming to the threads about the various flash carts and see if I can spot the affiliated chinese guy posting in favor of his brand.
 

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But if you are on 4.x, you can use roms/eshop games so if the reason "they say to stay on 4.x to avoid you buying a game" don't seem logic (and even if you would require an original game, I'm sure most 4.x users wouldn't mind to buy the game).
What? If you are on 4.x you don't need to buy a game at all to use gateway, only the 9.x users would need to buy one.
The 4.x users could trigger the new exploit via rom, but there is no need doing that...

4.x has a lot advantages over 9.x users
- if the trigger is a game, than 4.x don't need to buy it, the main reason to buy gateway, is because you don't want to buy games
- if the trigger is a game, than you need to get the game first, some people don't have access to all games through regional restrictions and nintendo will remove it almost instantly from eshop
- you don't need to update your system nand, only emunand needs to be updated
- if you are on 9.x you will still need to make a 9.x emunand or you could not install any cia (your system nand doesn't have signature checks patched!)
- 4.x has the leaked cfw which doesn't need gateway at all, only a NDS flashcard, 9.x may never get any cfw (except the gateway drm one...)
- 4.x can trigger the exploit via a NDS flashcard, 9.x can't do that, maybe you need 10 or 20 or however many steps to start the exploit
- 4.x can use gateway right out of the box, 9.x needs to wait 2 weeks or 2 months or 2 years
 
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