Hacking Wii u and Wii U game pad hack talk to be presented soon at CCC/30c3

[Stalkid64X]

You have the reasoning, the answers, the motive, the proof - backed by yet another reputable source in delroth... As simply and plain as can be put. You've been given more time and care than you really have any right to.
Take it or leave it.

 

[EMarius]

See you made it onto Engadget and fair few other websites , well done delroth and shuffle.

 

[masterchan777]

 

[Ray Lewis]

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[masterchan777]

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Give it a few minutes, looks like it is still being processed

 

[Dr Eggman]

Just finished watching the talk by delroth and shuffle. Excellent stuff! Extremely excited!!! (and personally i thought it outdid the f0f presentation).


If possible could delroth or someone point me towards WiiU->PC info? They mentioned decoding was the easier part (and there was a video out a while ago with streaming to the pc) but they hardly mentioned it in the presentation, only a little at the end with android. Is there any readily available info about this?

I for one am very excited.

 

[WiiUBricker]

What f0f (and probably I) said still stands and you can notice that there's no way yet to get buttons input from GamePad to vWii.

Yet? That word implies that you think the button input can be enabled via software?

 

[VashTS]

cool stuff! seems like ninty may have failed again. makes me want just the wii u pad now

 

[delroth]

Yet? That word implies that you think the button input can be enabled via software?

We're investigating some stuff. In any case unless Nintendo updated the DRH fw to support what I'm thinking about it won't happen.

 

[SirByte]

Excellent work on the GamePad! Hopefully this will be released in such a way that commercial games can use it when present. If not, it will at least help with a WiiU emulator when the time comes.

As to the "proof" question of the hashes, think of it this way. We have a closed chest and it's heavy and no one knows what's in there. I can then say I was in there, and as proof offer this tidbit: it includes one white, globular item with a diameter of about 5 centimeters. Is that proof to anyone I've opened the chest? No. I could just be making it up. But once the chest opens, and voila, there's a giant pearl 5cm in diameter: there's my proof I was in there when I said I was.

So wait for the WiiU keys to leak and be verified genuine, perform a sha1, and compare to the slides. Match: f0f did what they said they did. It proves they had the keys at the time of posting.

 

[b17bomber]

Please please stop bickering and discourage delroth from continuing to work on this. I really would like to do the things he tried out at the end of his demonstration.

 

[Ray Lewis]

Read carefully. Nobody questioned delroth's work. Many want to see a video showing unsigned code running on retail unit. They help delroth with Wii U binaries/files but not for Maxternal. That is very indicative of a lack of interest in an sdk (aside from genuine one).

 

[tHciNc]

People saying that they waited a year to say we didnt completely hack it, they acknowledged that early on, they where still missing 1 piece

 

[SirByte]

Everyone here is supporting delroth's work! This has absolutely nothing to do with "hacking" the WiiU, as the GamePad works just fine with it. Delroth's work has to do with getting the GamePad to work with other devices, mainly the PC. But since there's a dual-firmware in there, perhaps use the GamePad as a Vita-emulator with the PS4? Use it with the PC, play games against each other, maybe many players each on their own GamePad, via the Internet? As on the slide at the end of the talk: the possibilities are endless.

 

[WiiUBricker]

perhaps use the GamePad as a Vita-emulator with the PS4?

I believe that would require a PS4 port of libdrc which isn't possible without hacking the PS4 first.

 

[Coto]

a hash is a physical bit footprint(unique) of a complete set of bits. Given some fragments of code must be equal so all chips behave the same, then hashing an equal fragment of code should return the same footprint on every device out there.

 

[weatMod]

Actually, no iso loader and homebrew only drastically lowers how much a company would care about fixing the exploit that allows homebrew. That would increase the chances of Nintendo leaving the exploit in future firmware releases. We have no idea how fixable what has been found is, and if you followed along with the Wii you'd notice it appeared incredibly difficult for Nintendo to fix their problems.

but then homebrew developers may not even bother making anything if there is only a negligible user base of consoles to use it

 

[CosmoCortney]

seems to be fun to play emu games with the gamepad. the controller offers so many keys we could use for useful shortcuts just like starting a video record, taking screenshots. so we would never need to let the controller out off the hands.

 

[SirByte]

I believe that would require a PS4 port of libdrc which isn't possible without hacking the PS4 first.

Not necessarily, the PS4 shouldn't know any better than an actual PS Vita is connecting to it. The vita uses 802.11n in a 1+1 configuration and best results are when directly connection to the PS4 itself, bypassing your WiFi router.

I guess the issue is that since the device will need to be paired to the PS4, we won't be able to look on the unmodified PS4-internal side of things. And we can safely assume Sony doesn't use ROT-3 as they would be in trouble with Nintendo

 

[Oxybelis]

PS4 does not have 5ghz antenna anyway.