Wii U ranking jumps over 875% on Amazon UK after Xbox One announcement

[KingVamp]

Because shifting the inventory and map to the touchscreen for easier access and adding off TV play, not wanting to do anything else, is so hard to do, that they need to hire more people.


And I like how you defend the strong focus on media and yet it's all doom and gloom when something is design to focus on gaming.

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

Still it involves hiring more people to go develop all this interface for it compared to just paying people to port a game between the Xbox, Playstation, and PC. It's an unnecessary hurdle that costs more money. In the end if you have to spend more money on a Wii U port that'll sell less than every other ported version, why even bother?

Hard to say it will sell less at this point in time isn't it? So far looks like it has several million consoles sold and the competition has zero so far as they haven't even launched.

Besides it's all equal, the Xbox One and PS4 both feature things that will have to be programmed for. As you say an added expense and at this point in time you can't say it will sell any less or any more than a Wii-U version of the game.

I suspect things are going to just like the 3DS all over again, slow start, more games, price drop, booming sales. Looks like that's Nintendo's marketing plan for the Wii-U. While not original it did seem to work out pretty well for the 3DS.

 

[Terenigma]

I still think the Wii-u is an awful console, the whole idea of it is just downright silly and the controller is ridiculous, I think it jumped because of the price drop they recently announced. Like the article says the PS4 had the best looking features imo and unless more bad news is announced (or the price is huge) then I'm pretty sure its going to completely dominate the next-gen war.

What did Xbox one actually do that was good in the presentation and the Q&A that followed? Didn't they 1) piss off all used-game shops 2)Piss over pretty much all digibox makers 3) insult us into thinking we need a console that plays tv on our tv as a replacement for our tv 4) Basically confirm we need to be online to play their console 5) Make us already start thinking bout buying extra storage for the 6) games that have to be installed on the console on the 7) console that looks like a brick suitcase.

Unless Sony reveal some ridiculous underhanded money-making scheme then I think the next gen will be PS4 >>>>>>>>Wii-u>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xbox One

 

[Gahars]

Lol, I bet you like being a reporter on temp, because everytime someone posts something that goes against the majority of most users I notice you troll them.

Civil disagreement is what counts for trolling now? Oh dear, Guild is le trickiest of le tricksters.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Honestly, I could see the WiiU getting a few bonus sales after the announcement, after seeing what the X1 would be offering.

 

[slingblade1170]

Still not sure why the gamepad is an issue with so many people, before its over you will see Sony release a controller with some sort of touchscreen and MS will make smartglass a primary way to play some games. Honestly, I think MS will win this gen that is approaching but it doesn't mean they won't see how two screens can benefit a game. If Nintendo would of change the stupid name of the Wii U and marketed a bit better these poor sales wouldn't have happened. Besides the name being stupid, Nintendo also made a huge mistake thinking that it would sell from that name alone and that should never be the strategy, you gotta market a product to its max.

As time goes on, Nintendo will reverse their mistakes to selling their consoles like crazy along with the PS4 & XboxONE. In my opinion, Nintendo's approach could be a big win. Like the Wii the Wii U is more than likely going to be quite a bit cheaper than MS & Sony and sooner release should see Nintendo to a sooner price cut. There are going to be people by the thousands that will just buy a Wii U because it will be the cheapest, then you got the tablet addicts that THINK they will be buying some sort of ipad console, not to mention that Nintendo still appeals to children than the others which means they will want it. Its just gotta be marketed correctly.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Still not sure why the gamepad is an issue with so many people, before its over you will see Sony release a controller with some sort of touchscreen and MS will make smartglass a primary way to play some games. Honestly, I think MS will win this gen that is approaching but it doesn't mean they won't see how two screens can benefit a game. If Nintendo would of change the stupid name of the Wii U and marketed a bit better these poor sales wouldn't have happened. Besides the name being stupid, Nintendo also made a huge mistake thinking that it would sell from that name alone and that should never be the strategy, you gotta market a product to its max.

As time goes on, Nintendo will reverse their mistakes to selling their consoles like crazy along with the PS4 & XboxONE. In my opinion, Nintendo's approach could be a big win. Like the Wii the Wii U is more than likely going to be quite a bit cheaper than MS & Sony and sooner release should see Nintendo to a sooner price cut. There are going to be people by the thousands that will just buy a Wii U because it will be the cheapest, then you got the tablet addicts that THINK they will be buying some sort of ipad console, not to mention that Nintendo still appeals to children than the others which means they will want it. Its just gotta be marketed correctly.

Neither Sony or Microsoft have done that and their next gen controller designs are out. I mean Sony has a touchpad (mind you not screen) on their controller and that's about the closest thing. Even then devs can probably entirely ignore it (think like motion controls on the Sixaxis). A big gaping screen, mind you, cannot be ignored. SmartGlass is honestly kinda a piece of shit (hate saying that but it looked so promising during its presentation and now it's like completely useless).

I think the big issue with Nintendo is convincing people they even need a new console. The Wii kinda had a very abrupt diminishing return. It had its big hits and what not but eventually it kinda became a fad and once that passed the sales dropped a lot. I see a ton of families now who own Wiis and they're basically either useless or they use it for like Netflix or an equivalent service. I'm not sure at this moment what they can do to revive that trend.

Like the Wii itself is an oddity, it's hard to use it to prove any future trends for Nintendo because all their other consoles say otherwise. You can't say that Mario Kart will save a Nintendo system because there was a Mario Kart on the N64 and Gamecube and they still both did kinda crap in comparison to the competition but it sold like 20 million+ on the Wii. Same with Marios and Zeldas and Metroids and Super Smash Bros. The games sell well but they, historically, haven't launched the system to Wii levels in the past and it's hard to say they'll do it in the future.

In general it's the entirety of games that make or break a console, the Xbox 360 and the PS3 both did well not because of first parties entirely but because of all the games they got. Third parties and first.

I guess my point (which at this point is not really related to the post I quoted) is that you can't say "Nintendo will do this well in the future because of the past" because their past has been highly inconsistent.

 

[mrtofu]

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[ForteGospel]

A) People say the system sucks because it has no goddamn games and it has some poor design choices. I think honestly the Wii U Pad really hurts the system. Sure, it has the opportunity to present some interesting ideas but in the end it's a hurdle for third party developers to be forced into doing more than a simple port to the system. Instead they now have to go make all these stupid Gamepad features. Also the assurance of "Look there'll be great games soon!" when they all end up being Nintendo games doesn't cut it. I realized that buying a Nintendo system for Nintendo games was a bad idea. I did it for the Wii and that ended up almost being completely useless after I got a Xbox 360 (and now a PS3). It ends up becoming a Smash Bros. machine.

B) If you say "All Sony/MS consoles do is play CoD/Halo/FPS games" you should probably stop talking because your knowledge of video games is about equal to that of an Amish toddler.

EA: "omg so hard to think of new ideas for the gamepad, if only I could just put a mini map of the field..."

 

[RedCoreZero]

I can't see the point of buying a VCR again.
I think that all I need is a PS4; the Wii U is obviously left way behind in specs and this time around the Xbox won't be so 'good' as it was before. The graphics for it is really impressive, but honestly, better and better graphics is something we don't need. How about they focus on the software instead? Better and exclusive games will drive me to the console. Wii U is getting the software treatment, no doubt having a exclusive Sonic game will get the sales higher. I don't see the point of even getting multiple consoles if you're just going to play games available on other platforms *cough*callofduty*cough*.

That's why, I bought a Wii U, for the software mostly, Xenoblade, Smash Bros, Mario, and shit. We don't need another TV box, we got Netflix, YouTube, Facebook, and mediaplayers on like, every device. I'm pretty sure lots of people have an Apple TV already. Why get another box of waste when you have all the software already in your hands, and even better hardware too? At least they announced PS4 games, going to get Destiny.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

EA: "omg so hard to think of new ideas for the gamepad, if only I could just put a mini map of the field..."

It's not a matter of coming up with ideas, it's a matter of paying people to even just do minimaps and all that shit when every other console just requires the engine to be moved since all the controls are the same.

Plus it's so fucking annoying when you're forced to use a "feature". Like the shoehorned motion controls on almost every goddamn Wii game made most ports just the absolute worse. I don't want to take a break from my game to do a stupid minigame sequence on my touchscreen.

The issue is that people shouldn't have to be forced into developing useless, "new" features for the Wii U because Nintendo made a bad choice with make a giant touchscreen controller. People criticize Microsoft and Sony's motion control peripherals for example but at least they're segregated. I'm not forced to use them in most of my games, hell a lot of Move titles (like inFamous 2, Killzone, etc) work just as well with a controller.

 

[EzekielRage]

AFAIK and I'll be glad if somebody corrects me on this, the gamepad feature is ONE click during the development process. Its basically instead of "output this feature to TV" you do "output this feature on gamepad" so there is zero additional cost involved. As said, you don't have to use it, off TV play is a built in feature you don't have to code for anyways and if all else fails you display a logo and a hud or whatever on the display.

It's always the same with real innovation, there are people who hate it and in a few years its standard. I remember my parents tell me how ridiculous HDTVs are that the picture is ugly and smears and whatnot. I remember my parents telling me that my grandparents made fun of color TV since nobody wants to see those actors in color, it takes away the magic of it.

And I remember reading a book about the history of film where everybody was like: who needs sound in movies? actors should act, not talk.
Or in gaming, when I heard people complain about 3D gaming on the PS1 and N64 and how it ruins gaming. I remember people complaining about voice acting, takes away from the immersion of creating a voice for the character in your head.

and then there was the DS. who needs a touchscreen anyway?

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Hah wow. I guess Microsoft's news didn't have the effect they expected.

It's not a matter of coming up with ideas, it's a matter of paying people to even just do minimaps and all that shit when every other console just requires the engine to be moved since all the controls are the same.

Plus it's so fucking annoying when you're forced to use a "feature". Like the shoehorned motion controls on almost every goddamn Wii game made most ports just the absolute worse. I don't want to take a break from my game to do a stupid minigame sequence on my touchscreen.

The issue is that people shouldn't have to be forced into developing useless, "new" features for the Wii U because Nintendo made a bad choice with make a giant touchscreen controller. People criticize Microsoft and Sony's motion control peripherals for example but at least they're segregated. I'm not forced to use them in most of my games, hell a lot of Move titles (like inFamous 2, Killzone, etc) work just as well with a controller.

They aren't. They can simply use it as an alternate screen for playing like many games do already. That in itself is a pretty nice addition, as it lets you play anywhere in your house. And all the controls are otherwise the same.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Face it kids, in sales Wii U still behind of many unsuccessful video games like PS Vita, Genesis, Game Gear, Saturn, Dreamcast, etc. When Wii U reach 20M sales, then you post celebrations.

(I put PS Vita on list because many guys here talking that Wii U is strong, talk that Vita is shit.)

By the way, on may Vita sold around 112k and WiiU around 81k, so don't tell shit like "Vita had a head start that's why is ahead of Wii U"

 

[RchUncleSkeleton]

PS and XB fanboys are gonna hate on Nintendo no matter what... There's no point in arguing with close minded simpletons. That said, Nintendo are and always have been innovators in creating new ways to experience gaming... Playstation Move, need I say more?

 

[Deleted_171835]

Yeah, I wouldn't say that the Gamepad has had any impact on whether a pub decides to bring their game over. There's no obligation to even to use the Gamepad for anything (The Cave doesn't do shit with the screen).

Implementing some Gamepad specific features hardly requires any extra work, anyways. Moving a mini-map and inventory to the touch-screen and allowing Off-TV play in a game requires a few extra lines of code at best. It's certainly no hurdle to bringing over a game and you don't need to hire any extra people to work on that.

 

[Thomas83Lin]

Face it kids, in sales Wii U still behind of many unsuccessful video games like PS Vita, Genesis, Game Gear, Saturn, Dreamcast, etc. When Wii U reach 20M sales, then you post celebrations.

(I put PS Vita on list because many guys here talking that Wii U is strong, talk that Vita is shit.)

I thought the genesis did fairly well, I mean it sold close to 29 million systems in its total life span, yes it got smoked by the snes but I thought it still sold well considering.

 

[Smuff]

Burning Rangers sequel with the tablet used as a scanner for finding survivors/assessing the area = +1 Wii U sale.
Otherwise, it can fuck right off into the swamp with the X1. And the day I buy a Sony console will be the day God & Satan decide to cash out.

 

[Foxi4]

I thought the genesis did fairly well, I mean it sold close to 29 million systems in its total life span, yes it got smoked by the snes but I thought it still sold well considering.

The SEGA Genesis went head to head with the SNES throughout most of its generation, partially due to the head start it had. It provided a huge improvement over the NES and was a good investment at the time - once it had an install base, things carried on rolling on their own. It sold anywhere between 37 million units to up to even 41.9 million in its life span and unlike the SNES, it continues to sell to this day (Sega Genesis 3, Sega FireCore, Ultimate Genesis Collections etc. - some of the Genesis-based systems we have today bear the original SEGA license) but those sales are no longer counted into the grand total (since some of those systems emulate the original hardware). It wasn't "smoked" by the SNES - I'd say it was a fair fight and the Genesis definitely stood the test of time.

 

[Thomas83Lin]

The SEGA Genesis went head to head with the SNES due to the head start it had - it provided a huge improvement over the NES and was a good investment. It sold anywhere between 37 million units to up to even 41.9 million in its life span and unlike the SNES, it continues to sell to this day (Sega Genesis 3, Sega FireCore, Ultimate Genesis Collections etc. - some of the Genesis-based systems we have today bear the original SEGA license) but those sales are no longer counted into the grand total (since some of those systems emulate the original hardware). It wasn't "smoked" by the SNES - I'd say it was a fair fight and the Genesis definitely stood the test of time.

I've seen the 37+ estimate, but I also commonly see the 29 mil estimate. either way I wouldn't call it unsuccessful. that was my point.