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So why not have a universal discussion about this game. It's on PC/PS3/360, so it deserves to be in the General Gaming. Here we can hook up with one another and go loot hunting, go through campaigns and shit, or ask general questions: such as this;

How come I can't find Michael Mamaril? On my first play through, looked all through sanctuary, nothing. Even when sanctuary was in the sky, nothing. I'm on my second play through, still can't find him. I thought I read that before Sanctuary takes off, he's a 100% spawn.
 

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I've been giving BL2 a lot of my time lately, as for Michael Mamaril i've only seen him on 3 occassions, twice in Marcus's and once in Scooter's place, i've only got a purple weapon off him.
 

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Yeah, I have seen him with Marcus... I wasn't sure what was going on... he randomly gave me a weapon.

Anyone got the sniper from the robot arena? It makes scary noises =(
 

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I've been giving BL2 a lot of my time lately, as for Michael Mamaril i've only seen him on 3 occassions, twice in Marcus's and once in Scooter's place, i've only got a purple weapon off him.

Ya I heard he gives blue or higher. I mean, that's sweet. I'd really like the trophy from him though. But the only way I'm getting strong weapons now is by putting in SHiFT codes for Golden Keys. I have 5 ready to go, but I want to wait until I get to a higher level.
 

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Yeah, I have seen him with Marcus... I wasn't sure what was going on... he randomly gave me a weapon.

Anyone got the sniper from the robot arena? It makes scary noises =(

A sniper making scary noises?

I've had a smg that makes them noises and restricts your movement.
 

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A sniper making scary noises?

I've had a smg that makes them noises and restricts your movement.

I had a sniper that made fun of you when you shoot it. Its a mission sniper, it's pretty strong and funny too.

Ugh, as soon as I post, I found Michael in Moxxi's. Now I gotta go through the rest of the game and still do the two campaigns that I never played yet.
 

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I had a sniper that made fun of you when you shoot it. Its a mission sniper, it's pretty strong and funny too.

Ugh, as soon as I post, I found Michael in Moxxi's. Now I gotta go through the rest of the game and still do the two campaigns that I never played yet.

I didn't know there was a sniper like that, the sniper is my fave weapon, i have 3 chars i'm using and i treat them all as snipers.
 

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Caution: There will be a sniper that glitches the audio out and will make a large static noise that is like 10 times louder than the current volume.
 

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haha, the bane? at first i asked where the "swappin' weapons!" came from. then i shoot some enemies...
Oh god I hated the Bane. I usually use SMG's and Snipers, but if I get a strong pistol, I'll take out an SMG. I always have a sniper on me. But good lord, I HAAAATED the bane. Most useless gun in the game.
 

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Michael Mamaril originally showed/shows up at a 100% rate pre flight sanctuary, you just have to hunt him down. Buuut they have since pathced him down to a lower rate since he was never supposed to spawn that high. you could find him, save, load, find him again, rinse and repeat ad nausem if you felt like it before.
 

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Pfft. I have the Conference Call. I'm all set for weapons.
Okay, not quite. The Conference Call is good for big monsters but sucks on little monsters. I'm in desperate need of better weapons for the smaller guys.
 

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Pfft. I have the Conference Call. I'm all set for weapons.
Okay, not quite. The Conference Call is good for big monsters but sucks on little monsters. I'm in desperate need of better weapons for the smaller guys.
If you're on PS3 I could probably give you some weapons some time. I do okay with my Bee Shield and weapons I get from the skeleton chest.
 

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Been geeking out on the PC. Trying out Mechromancer, she's awesomesauce with her anarchy, though hella inaccurate. I love how's she heavy on the Heinlein references too. Plowing, well trying to plow through vault hunter mode.
 

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I've played some between a Commando and the Siren, and I think I like the Siren more. Her skill has nice group utility... at first I thought it was distracting, but it makes for nice AoE damage and easy crit stacking.

I did like the offensive capabilities of the Commando, but it seemed like he was lacking some offensive oomph.. like he wasn't really pushed anywhere. Loving the playthrough2 stuff with the different kinds of enemies and different playstyle.
 

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  • I've only found that mike guy once per character, but I never go out and specifically search since it's not like he gives out stuff that's overwhelming, doing a run through a level to get to a red chest or two gives loot chances along with EXP, so I prefer that route.

  • The morningstar is the sniper that berates you whenever you reload (unlike other weapons it only speaks on reload or a crit/kill, not normal shots), it's the reward from the bandit-killing mission from overlook's bounty board. I prefer it to other guns since it's actually usable (for a bit), despite being hyperion (where firing from the hip does jack).

  • The golden chest in sanctuary only gives out purple-level gear (this includes the pinkish e-tech weapons, they're in the same general range of rarity and just colored differently), it'll never give out legendaries or anything else, it totally bypasses the normal drop rates. It gives out gear the exact level of the person who opens it, and it only gives out two items at a time (opposed to other chests that can give four shields, grenades, artifacts, or pistols), except for rocket launchers where it only gives one. Since you have the chance of getting just two purple shields or grenade mods per opening, don't get your hopes up too much (though the weapons are always great for your level, which was the original point).

    A lot of people say to wait until you're level 50 or something, but I say you should open it whenever you're having trouble with the game and could use some purple equipment. By the time you're 50 things are likely dropping level 49/50 gear regularly, and you've already beaten most things anyways...

  • Speaking of drop rates, here's the in-game categories and rates (taken from the program, they can be found with Narin/TJ's CE tablecompilation).

    Very Common: 200
    Common: 100
    Uncommon: 10
    Uncommoner: 5
    Rare: 1
    Very Rare: 0.1
    Legendary: 0.01

    So yeah, it's about a 30,000:1 ratio of white to gold/yellow... but this is the drop rate for normal random drops, as you know bosses and uniques that drop a certain item have a much higher chance than this to drop it.

  • Some types of legendaries seem much rarer than others (when referring to random generation and not boss drops) simply because the larger weapons can show up in less objects. For example sniper rifles will never show up in lockers, yet lockers are capable of spawning legendary shields, grenade mods, pistols, and SMGs... things that also show up in chests and junk. Whenever I mess with the drop rates, I find legendary SMGs and junk far more often than legendary sniper rifles, just because of the skewed number of sources for the different item types.

    I'm not sure if I'm okay with this concept (making larger weapon legendaries the rarest to be randomly generated), but with the whole "this boss drops item x most of the time but it shows up elsewhere randomly) mechanic I can't really complain since it won't come into play most of the time...

    Just remember this if you're trying to farm sanctuary lockers or something for legendaries. It's better to farm sources that can give all weapon sizes out. Even when you still run into smaller weapons, that means even more randomly-generated legendary chaces at once!

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    (Pic taken with hacked drop rates.)

  • In addition to the golden chest, there's some areas and objects that have their drops limited. Nothing purple or legendary will spawn until you reach Sanctuary, the beginning areas (perhaps until leveled by story progression) have all their objects and such set to only drop lower-level things.

  • Items themselves have levels (with extremely rare exceptions), and the level requirement of the item is the same thing as the item's level. The only exception I can remember off the top of my head is the vault hunter relic. It's level 1 and gives 5% increased rare chance, period. It cannot level, even if forced to change it gains no requirement and stays at 5% (unlike other relics which have their numbers and such increase when you level the item up).

  • Backpack and bank sizes can actually go far beyond what the normal limits are. In earlier versions people were walking around with backpacks that could fit 75 items or whatever, but in the recent patches gearbox added in some code to reset bank and storage levels... though the fact that they work at higher amounts hints that additional bank and SDU upgrades could show up in future DLC.

  • Some of the commercials are damned hilarious. "But Mrs. Tediore, I lost both of my thumbs in a horrible foreplay incident..."

  • Who do you all give the bullymong fur to? I usually give it to Hammerlock, but sometimes to Claptrap just because watching him walk around with a mohawk for the rest of the game entertains me.

  • Badass ranks really aren't capped at anything resembling a reasonable amount... the game lets you have +150422% gun damage without a complaint.

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  • I found T.K.s quest hilarious. One echo would be a good long explanation, then the next would be 2-4 words. XD Also how the girl mentioned it's odd that most people on Pandora seem to keep all their echo correspondence... that made me laugh.

  • One of the locations on the Opportunity maps is a shop named "Dee's Nuts"...

  • Marcus' safe in his shop doesn't actually open, it's not functional at all. :(

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    (To show I went back there and checked.)

  • The red chest (and the lockers) in Roland's safe room are leveled to 25, so if you teleport into there before you're supposed to, you're just going to get gear you probably can't use...

  • The blue screen error on the monitor in the firehawk's lair... is amusing, to say the least.

  • Does anybody know what's up with this random floating echo log near the bloodshot camp you go to before getting into sanctuary? It's inactive (like logs for quests you haven't taken yet), but it's in a weird location (one you might not be able to get to normally).

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  • A lot of buildings and things in the game look solid and can be shot, but don't have any collision box set up, since the makers assumed you'd never get there.

 
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I always give the Bullymong fur to Hammerlock, mainly because I have no use for a shotgun.

Also, I love the badass rank. Well actually I need to do them more because as much as I love The Bee shield, it's really weak so far.
 

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