Sony acknowledged mistakes in marketing the PlayStation Vita

[Centrix]

I'm sorry, but Sony you made more mistakes than just marketing from what I've seen, try taking the Vita off the market and starting over from scratch like you should have done at the begining! The Vita is a cool name but the ideas for a dual touch...(heh hum DS any one) has been done already...haven't you been paying attiention these past 6 years. DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL, 3DS and now 3DS XL, just saying, and they all have dual screens, people saw through your ruse Sony they new what you were trying to pull. I want to like you system and have considered purchasing one but the joy sticks and buttons are to damn small you have a touch screen on the back of your system because lets face you couldn't stick any were else other than the back if you did your system would litterally look like the 3DS in every manner except the over all shape! I'm just spit balling here trying to help out and express my view point, you fucked up big time and didn't learn from the major mistakes you made with the PSP and PS3 and now your paying for it royally and its only going to go down hill from here! To add insult to injury nobody wants to really support the system's development for games, people we have another Turbo Graphx 16 on are hands where the only company making games for the system is one that made it!

Which is a shame because the system its self has allot of potential to be something!

 

[AceWarhead]

Come on, Sony. Make me buy a VIta. I really want one, it looks so sexy.
Sony is probably the very first company that has posed a challenge to Nintendo's handheld reign, And Competition is good. Or else, Ninty will just do rehashes of the same thing.
They NEED advertising. I don't see one Vita advert here. Most of my friends I talk to say, "What's a PS Vita?" The key to selling ANYTHING is to advertise it well. This will be a step in the right direction for Sony.

 

[gamefan5]

Lol, they wanna aim for the younger audiences now?

Is Sony a bit confused in the head or what? Their PSVita is pure hardcore, if anything. They were aiming at the right audiences, for what it's worth, but the problem they need to figure out is why the living fuck are those bloody hardcore gamers not buying it? They're a very fickle bunch, and even if you do give them what they want, they'll just go find something else to want and whine about instead. Give them new IPs, they'll go looking for HD remakes or ports. Give the remakes/ports and they'll come asking for new IPs. Give em both and they'll want console features. Give em all of those and they'll want it at half the price. Ahaha.

Suffice to say, the Vita is definitely NOT a kid's toy, much like an expensive smartphone or tablet. On the flipside though, maybe that's just how they worded it, but they're actually aiming for the PARENT'S wallets instead.

Yes because it works for Nintendo (Mario, Pokemon, etc). Hell it always works aiming for younger audiences. Why? Because they're the easiest to persuade.

Lol, you're forgetting something. The majority of the people now that are buying those games are the ones that GREW UP ON THEM. Now they are parents, with jobs. And besides, that's where the charm of Nintendo's games are. You see them as cutesy, for kids, but they've got enough in them to attract even adults.

Sony doesn't have anything close to that. That's the problem, I guess. They need to find something their old gamers played, and more importantly, they need to NOT MESS IT UP. But I guess that means they need to make remakes. Or revive old classics. Something like that. I dunno.

I'm an adult and I play mainly Nintendo games. Think I don't know that?
Theie core audience is mainly aimed at kids and casual players. (Ofc that doesn't mean Nintendo's hardcore audience doesn't exist, Heck by releasing the WiiU, they're trying to win the hardcore audience back.)
The players that keep playing Nintendo games (as in the 80's-90's kids that grew playing them) is just a bonus for them. That doesn't mean they don't care for them though.
Nintendo is always trying to keep their games as fun, challenging, yet simple to appeal their audience.

Now as for Sony, they severely need to keep their audience entertained, because so far, all they've done is sadly pissing them off.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I'm sorry, but Sony you made more mistakes than just marketing from what I've seen, try taking the Vita off the market and starting over from scratch like you should have done at the begining! The Vita is a cool name but the ideas for a dual touch...(heh hum DS any one) has been done already...haven't you been paying attiention these past 6 years. DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL, 3DS and now 3DS XL, just saying, and they all have dual screens, people saw through your ruse Sony they new what you were trying to pull. I want to like you system and have considered purchasing one but the joy sticks and buttons are to damn small you have a touch screen on the back of your system because lets face you couldn't stick any were else other than the back if you did your system would litterally look like the 3DS in every manner except the over all shape! I'm just spit balling here trying to help out and express my view point, you fucked up big time and didn't learn from the major mistakes you made with the PSP and PS3 and now your paying for it royally and its only going to go down hill from here! To add insult to injury nobody wants to really support the system's development for games, people we have another Turbo Graphx 16 on are hands where the only company making games for the system is one that made it!

Saying that having a front touchscreen and a back touchpad is just an equivalent to the dual screen approach of the DS/3DS line is quite a stretch.

Have you really played a Vita? I'm a big guy, I'm 6'3" and proportioned correctly. I've got big hands. But I've actually found the Vita to be very comfortable and the buttons are actually stellar. The D-Pad is exceptional. Although I'm guessing most Vita critics are just fat neckbeards anyway with large, pudgy sausage fingers so that's probably the difference. EDIT: THIS STATEMENT WAS JOKING.

As for the rest of your statement, good lord that's just generic Sony hate. So generic in fact that it felt like you were playing "MadLibs: Sony Hate Edition".

 

[DiscostewSM]

Although I'm guessing most Vita critics are just fat neckbeards anyway with large, pudgy sausage fingers so that's probably the difference. EDIT: THIS STATEMENT WAS SARCASTIC.

Can't be Guild without making this kind of statement.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Although I'm guessing most Vita critics are just fat neckbeards anyway with large, pudgy sausage fingers so that's probably the difference. EDIT: THIS STATEMENT WAS SARCASTIC.

Can't be Guild without making this kind of statement.

I need all of my posts to contain some type of insult that is passable by saying it's a "joke".

You fat lard. JUST KIDDING.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

If the Vita doesn't make it past this holiday season I'm afraid it's pretty much dead...

 

[Gahars]

More games are coming. If you can market this better, Sony, you might just reVitalize the system's sales.

 

[BORTZ]

Ultimately if the Vita goes down it's a bad thing for everyone, Nintendo included. Narrowing the market to one dedicated handheld vs everything else and it's casual friend spells disaster for proper games on the go.

While i certainly agree there is some truth there, didnt the Gameboy line go unchallenged for years?

 

[Deleted User]

Well, it's a dying market I suppose

 

[chavosaur]

While i certainly agree there is some truth there, didnt the Gameboy line go unchallenged for years?

If i remember right, its first challengers were the gamegear and the atari lynx, and the gamegear dropped a year after the gameboy release. The lynx came out the same year as the gameboy.

 

[Mikehoncho16]

Well, it's a dying market I suppose

If it was a dying market, the 3DS would be doing bad too you know.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

If the Vita doesn't make it past this holiday season I'm afraid it's pretty much dead...

I'd love to know where you bought your crystal ball.

 

[DS1]

Well, it's a dying market I suppose

If it was a dying market, the 3DS would be doing bad too you know.

Yeah, the 3DS WAS doing bad. They even had an early price-cut as a result. Between that and the slowly growing library, everything turned gravy. The same will happen with the Vita, but in this goddamn internet culture of, "OMG I WATCH NUMBERS WEEK TO WEEK AND RANDOMLY CALL FAILURE IF THEY SEEM LOW!!!!", you'd think it was doomed.

edit - to say nothing about the market, for which I have no opinion because I'm not an economist like everyone else on here. But yeah, the Vita will do just fine.

 

[xist]

While i certainly agree there is some truth there, didnt the Gameboy line go unchallenged for years?

I'm not quite sure what point you're making. The Gameboy was pretty much unchallenged in it's market dominance...if the Vita dies there's not just one portable format left, and Nintendo may really have to start scraping the barrel to ensure that a dedicated console can survive against mobile gaming.

 

[chavosaur]

Lets be honest now, even if the vita did die (which i dont expect anytime soon) nintendo wouldnt be unchallenged at all. You have to remember that mobile phones and tablets are still a competition to mobile gaming.
Hell mobile phones are still a thorn both in sony and nintendo's sides right now.

 

[nando]

Sony just wants the biggest hardware penis but most people dont have a use for such a penis plus they are pricy and i know that the analogy got completely away feom me and it makes no sense but i wanted to say 'penis'

 

[Master Mo]

...So, my tip for Sony; bring out an redesigned Vita without touchpad, 3G, gyroscope and GPS. Be an hardcore handheld aimed at the more mature audiences like the PS1/2/3 did

Hmm, I dont get it. If a developer has the exact same thought as yours he might as well just ignore the extra features. It is not like they trimmed other capabilities of the system in favor of gyro or touchscreen...

So a game like ACLib or CoDVita could be games who just ignore those "not-so-hardcore" ( ) aspects of the handheld or make them optional...

It`s the same with the WiiU gamepad... You can just ignore all that fancy magic inside or the touchscreen and it is essentially a 360-controller so it`s up to the devs!

In a nutshell: I don`t think what you mentioned would work at all. I think more ads would be good and like I said in another thread (which I agree these are getting samey) shift some PS3 game to Vita, though I had some negativ things to say about having same games on PSV and PS3 but "Cross Buy" makes the whole system awesome actually! But still I think the Sony-Brawler benefits from "Cross Buy" more then Sly3 so I would have shifted that exclussively to PSV.

 

[KingVamp]

I really don't think if the Vita fails that it wouldn't put anymore pressure on Nintendo than they already have.
Besides I believe most people who buys a phone use it as a phone as the main point while everything else is an after thought.
I just didn't see people thinking "I want to game, so I should get a phone".

Didn't really track it enough to know if they are comparing hardware or games sells when they say mobile
are going to kill handhelds.

 

[Rasas]

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Well it would decrease costs a bit to remove those things and if most developers aren't using it or just including it just because they can why not but it is a bit late now.

I really don't think if the Vita fails that it wouldn't put anymore pressure on Nintendo than they already have.
Besides I believe most people who buys a phone use it as a phone as the main point while everything else is an after thought.
I just didn't see people thinking "I want to game, so I should get a phone".
Didn't really track it enough to know if they are comparing hardware or games sells when they say mobile
are going to kill handhelds.

Well most games are being released for both IOS and Android and most people go for that. Plus more people buy Apple and Samsung and it works with more recent games while older and other Android phones sometimes don't. Of course a lot of people just buy those for features, reliability and or brand but people who game should get the most recent Android and IOS device. Maybe if Sony made the Vita 3g into a phone that can play new hardcore games(not emulate older ones like the PS1 or half ass ports) or at least marketed the fact it had skype it might sell better. Plus Skype pretty much eats data, needs a 3g version sort of and a monthly plan and the lack of texting doesn't help it at all. The regular version is still available if people don't want to get a phone.