Supreme Court upholds Affordable Health Care Act (Obamacare)

[SSVAV]

It is if you live in Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, and many other red states. If you are like me an had cancer before you could afford health care that screws you over in these states as no one will cover you and if they will, it will be for a price you can't pay.

I'm not the best suited person to talk about this either. Here in France health care is a right and not a privilege, everyone gets affordable health care for non-vital diseases (optics, dentists or other) and free care for things that are vital, in your case cancer.

My mother has thyroid cancer and the treatment she has isn't very cheap so to say. She has to wait for months when she needs a specific injection, but she gets it free. Her daily medication is also free.

The US don't shine in the social department, but it is slowly getting there, and this is the first step. I suppose this law has some kind of exceptions or aids for people like you that have no choice. If does, right?

 

[BlueStar]

The majority opinion was written by Chief Justice John Roberts, who held that the law was a valid exercise of Congress’s power to tax.

Sourrce:MSNBC
http://nbcpolitics.m...h-care-law?lite
This made me jump for joy I'm so happy, I'm glad this law is constitutional.

I suppose you will also be happy when some president down the line says , "your grand kids must pay for internet access or pay a fine " or they must pay for a car , or pay for rubbers or ect.

I'm smart enough to realize (unlike you) that everyone needs healthcare, you don't need a car. You don't need to have sex. You don't need internet. It's the broccoli argument. It makes no sense and you just sound foolish making it.

Healthy people dont need health care

And you're going to be healthy forever I guess, the first immortal man.

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[smile72]

It is if you live in Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, and many other red states. If you are like me an had cancer before you could afford health care that screws you over in these states as no one will cover you and if they will, it will be for a price you can't pay.

I'm not the best suited person to talk about this either. Here in France health care is a right and not a privilege, everyone gets affordable health care for non-vital diseases (optics, dentists or other) and free care for things that are vital, in your case cancer.

My mother has thyroid cancer and the treatment she has isn't very cheap so to say. She has to wait for months when she needs a specific injection, but she gets it free. Her daily medication is also free.

The US don't shine in the social department, but it is slowly getting there, and this is the first step. I suppose this law has some kind of exceptions or aids for people like you that have no choice. If does, right?

I'm not sure what you mean, here the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamacare
Maybe that will answer your questions.

 

[Anon10W1z]

Haha! This is great news!

 

[SSVAV]

I'm not sure what you mean, here the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamacare
Maybe that will answer your questions.

I mean if people like you who need to pay extremely expensive health care will get some help from the government or if you are excluded from the law.

EDIT: Read it, it says you don't pay the tax penalty if health care costs more than 8% of household income. It sucks. US should help people who have these kind of diseases, really.

EDIT2: Read it again, says that "increases insurance coverage of pre-existing conditions" patients. Not sure to what extent but it's a start. I've also read something about a pre-existing condition exclusion regulation, not sure how it works.

 

[smile72]

I'm not sure what you mean, here the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamacare
Maybe that will answer your questions.

I mean if people like you who need to pay extremely expensive health care will get some help from the government or if you are excluded from the law.

EDIT: Read it, it says you don't pay the tax penalty if health care costs more than 8% of household income. It sucks. US should help people who have these kind of diseases, really.

Yes, it helps people with pre-existing conditions. And at the time I was on medicaid so I'm fine, well I will get kicked off at the end of the month.

 

[Sheimi]

It is nice to see pre-existing conditions gone, but I may not switch to this til I get more information on it.

 

[dickfour]

People are going to be forced to buy health insurance. That's not a bad thing. We have free heath care now. This is just going to force people to pay for all their free goodies. Socialism comes at a price and it's about time the free lunch is over.

 

[Thanatos Telos]

Canada still has the best, same with France.
And yes, I am an American.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

The majority opinion was written by Chief Justice John Roberts, who held that the law was a valid exercise of Congress’s power to tax.

Sourrce:MSNBC
http://nbcpolitics.m...h-care-law?lite
This made me jump for joy I'm so happy, I'm glad this law is constitutional.

I suppose you will also be happy when some president down the line says , "your grand kids must pay for internet access or pay a fine " or they must pay for a car , or pay for rubbers or ect.

I'm smart enough to realize (unlike you) that everyone needs healthcare, you don't need a car. You don't need to have sex. You don't need internet. It's the broccoli argument. It makes no sense and you just sound foolish making it.

Healthy people dont need health care

I'm sorry but what? Okay, first of all, the States are in bad need of a good health care system no matter what. It doesn't really take a genius or someone to even visit the states that the people there, aren't all that healthy. Especially if the States is one of the top countries in the world that's obese and severely overweight. That's just one thing. There are tons of people who are severely sick and everything there, and this is a way to help them. If anything, this is a step in the right direction for the U.S. to finally catch up with other parts of the world to actually move on into a better age.

 

[dickfour]

Canada still has the best, same with France.
And yes, I am an American.

Then why do people with money come running to the states when the need a heart operation or cancer treatment?

 

[chartube12]

No more insurance caps FTW! Now only If we could say the same for bandwidth caps.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Canada still has the best, same with France.
And yes, I am an American.

Then why do people with money come running to the states when the need a heart operation or cancer treatment?

Probably because all the top surgeons are from the states? Not to mention, a lot of doctors up here have multiple jobs and work in the States.

 

[LightyKD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2tivWi5IQo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Nuff said!

 

[the_randomizer]

Haha! This is great news!

You don't mind being heavily penalized for insurance a majority of Americans don't give a s**t about? How I pity you people. There are those who say, "But insurance is required when you get a car, so why shouldn't healthcare be required?" I'll tell you why, yes, you should get insurance for a car because it's the law, but guess what? It's not mandatory to own a car. Then again, those douchebag wankers in Congress are reelected, there will be a government-issued mandate requiring every American 18 and over to own a car with insurance and those who don't pay will be thrown in jail.

 

[smile72]

Haha! This is great news!

You don't mind being heavily penalized for insurance a majority of Americans don't give a s**t about? How I pity you people. There are those who say, "But insurance is required when you get a car, so why shouldn't healthcare be required?" I'll tell you why, yes, you should get insurance for a car because it's the law, but guess what? It's not mandatory to own a car. Then again, those douchebag wankers in Congress are reelected, there will be a government-issued mandate requiring every American 18 and over to own a car with insurance and those who don't pay will be thrown in jail.

It's not a penalty it's a tax. And the max per family would be $2085 and that is by 2016. It's not that Americans don't like it (they like the stuff in it), it's just that the majority of Americans believe the garbage Republicans tell them, such as death panels.

 

[FluffyLunamoth]

Haha! This is great news!

You don't mind being heavily penalized for insurance a majority of Americans don't give a s**t about? How I pity you people. There are those who say, "But insurance is required when you get a car, so why shouldn't healthcare be required?" I'll tell you why, yes, you should get insurance for a car because it's the law, but guess what? It's not mandatory to own a car. Then again, those douchebag wankers in Congress are reelected, there will be a government-issued mandate requiring every American 18 and over to own a car with insurance and those who don't pay will be thrown in jail.

Uh...you sure your first statement has any merit at all? The most don't care about? Someone get this guy a newspaper.

PS: Yeah, it's nearly mandatory to own a car. Pretty fucking hard to get a job otherwise. Trust me. I would know. It's one of the main reasons I keep getting turned down for jobs.

 

[smile72]

Haha! This is great news!

You don't mind being heavily penalized for insurance a majority of Americans don't give a s**t about? How I pity you people. There are those who say, "But insurance is required when you get a car, so why shouldn't healthcare be required?" I'll tell you why, yes, you should get insurance for a car because it's the law, but guess what? It's not mandatory to own a car. Then again, those douchebag wankers in Congress are reelected, there will be a government-issued mandate requiring every American 18 and over to own a car with insurance and those who don't pay will be thrown in jail.

Uh...you sure your first statement has any merit at all? The most don't care about? Someone get this guy a newspaper.

PS: Yeah, it's nearly mandatory to own a car. Pretty fucking hard to get a job otherwise. Trust me. I would know. It's one of the main reasons I keep getting turned down for jobs.

The U.S. public transportation system is garbage, this speaking from a person in Cook County, where there are plenty of trains. A car is pretty much mandatory.

 

[blahkamehameha]

President Obama: "Let's be clear, this isn't a tax. I repeat, not a tax. (does wink and teeth sparkle) You can rest assured again, this is not a tax."

Supreme Court: "This is a tax."

I gladly welcome new President Romney.

 

[smile72]

President Obama: "Let's be clear, this isn't a tax. I repeat, not a tax. (does wink and teeth sparkle) You can rest assured again, this is not a tax."

Supreme Court: "This is a tax."

I gladly welcome new President Romney.

Then you don't comprehend the need for health care in America. As thanks to Fox News, we hate socialism (cough *Medicare* cough *Social Security*) so we'll never have free healthcare like Canada.