Miyamoto: Sony should learn from Nintendo's mistakes

[DiscostewSM]

I had a GBA, but the only thing I played on it was Pokemon, all the ambassador games were new to me so good deal.

The more I hear about your gaming choices, the more I feel disgusted with you.

pokemon games are addictive, you sir are a hater.

I used to be addicted to the Pokemon games back during the GB/A days, but now, it's kinda 'meh'.

 

[heartgold]

I had a GBA, but the only thing I played on it was Pokemon, all the ambassador games were new to me so good deal.

The more I hear about your gaming choices, the more I feel disgusted with you.

It's the only reason I brought a GBA SP for, none of other games interested me. I was not gonna fork out money for mediocre games that I'd never play. If my taste sucks, so be it.

 

[Foxi4]

I had a GBA, but the only thing I played on it was Pokemon, all the ambassador games were new to me so good deal.

The more I hear about your gaming choices, the more I feel disgusted with you.

It's the only reason I brought a GBA SP for, none of other games interested me. I was not gonna fork out money for mediocre games that I'd never play. If my taste sucks, so be it.

Oh c'mon - Doom Advance? Mario Kart Advance (a great Mario Kart game, that I will admit), Sonic Advance 1 through 3? Golden Sun 1 and 2? LoZ: Minish Cap? Castlevania? Harvest Moon?

The GBA is literally *brimming* with great games, saying that it was only good for Pokemon is blasphemy. Most of the top-tier GBA stuff has everlasting appeal.

 

[emigre]

I think what Heartgold is saying he doesn't like video games.

 

[smile72]

I agree, I believe the poor sales of the Vita is mainly due to lack of games.

 

[heartgold]

I had a GBA, but the only thing I played on it was Pokemon, all the ambassador games were new to me so good deal.

The more I hear about your gaming choices, the more I feel disgusted with you.

It's the only reason I brought a GBA SP for, none of other games interested me. I was not gonna fork out money for mediocre games that I'd never play. If my taste sucks, so be it.

Oh c'mon - Doom Advance? Mario Kart Advance (a great Mario Kart game, that I will admit), Sonic Advance 1 through 3? Golden Sun 1 and 2? LoZ: Minish Cap? Castlevania? Harvest Moon?

The GBA is literally *brimming* with great games, saying that it was only good for Pokemon is blasphemy. Most of the top-tier GBA stuff has everlasting appeal.

Then it's fair to say my handheld gaming knowledge was limited, never knew who or what Zelda was untill after playing the DS versions. XD

I think I emulated Mariokart and the sonic games back in the day, they were great.

 

[emigre]

Then it's fair to say my handheld gaming knowledge was limited, never knew who or what Zelda was untill after playing the DS versions. XD

I think I emulated Mariokart and the sonic games back in the day, they were great.

For fuck's sake...

 

[heartgold]

Then it's fair to say my handheld gaming knowledge was limited, never knew who or what Zelda was untill after playing the DS versions. XD

I think I emulated Mariokart and the sonic games back in the day, they were great.

For fuck's sake...

Grew up with Megadrive, PS1 and then PS2. No Nintendo home consoles.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Oh c'mon - Doom Advance? Mario Kart Advance (a great Mario Kart game, that I will admit), Sonic Advance 1 through 3? Golden Sun 1 and 2? LoZ: Minish Cap? Castlevania? Harvest Moon?

The GBA is literally *brimming* with great games, saying that it was only good for Pokemon is blasphemy. Most of the top-tier GBA stuff has everlasting appeal.

Amen to this.

One of my favourite games on the GBA is Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga. Such a stellar RPG.

Then it's fair to say my handheld gaming knowledge was limited, never knew who or what Zelda was untill after playing the DS versions. XD

The DS versions? You mean the worst Zelda games?

Not shitting on those who are happy with the Vita, its just that Sony games don't have that certain something that Nintendo games have.

The issue with this is that Sony doesn't put their A-teams on handheld games like Nintendo. We'll never get an Uncharted for the Vita by Naughty Dog or a Vita God of War game made solely by Santa Monica. Nintendo puts their main-teams on handheld games which is why their games come out as polished as they do.

 

[emigre]

Then it's fair to say my handheld gaming knowledge was limited, never knew who or what Zelda was untill after playing the DS versions. XD

I think I emulated Mariokart and the sonic games back in the day, they were great.

For fuck's sake...

Grew up with Megadrive, PS1 and then PS2. No Nintendo home consoles.

That is not an excuse.

 

[Hyro-Sama]

Sonic Advance 1 through 3?

OMG Those were like crack. I couldn't stop playing them. I cannot think any other handheld Sonic game that was amazing as those three.

 

[heartgold]

The DS versions? You mean the worst Zelda games?

Yes, I adore the controls so much, I would love the next 3DS Zelda game to use the stylus control again.

Grew up with Megadrive, PS1 and then PS2. No Nintendo home consoles.

That is not an excuse.

How is it not, when I have no access to a Nintendo console so I will not be looking up games for it. The kids only ever talked about PS1 and PS2. N64 and GC games were never discussed with friends during school days so there's no way of me finding out what that system had.

 

[emigre]

How is it not, when I have no access to a Nintendo console so I will not be looking up games for it. The kids only ever talked about PS1 and PS2. N64 and GC games were never discussed with friends during school days so there's no way of me finding out what that system had.

I so hope you're trolling me.

 

[heartgold]

How is it not, when I have no access to a Nintendo console so I will not be looking up games for it. The kids only ever talked about PS1 and PS2. N64 and GC games were never discussed with friends during school days so there's no way of me finding out what that system had.

I so hope you're trolling me.

Honestly. -Sigh-

 

[Deleted_171835]

The DS versions? You mean the worst Zelda games?

Yes, I adore the controls so much, I would love the next 3DS Zelda game to use the stylus control again.

Uh, no. Those controls were only good with those games because the DS lacked an analog stick. A 3DS Zelda should keep the controls from OOT 3D (Circle-pad for movement).

 

[Foxi4]

Get off heartgold's back people, he missed on a lot of GBA games but now you're just smothering him.

In any case, the GBA was a games powerhouse back in the day but that was no excuse for Nintendo to shove them down Ambassadors throats - they should've been given points instead but what's done is done.

 

[TripleSMoon]

I kinda agree Foxi4, but at the same time, you have to remember that the eShop's choices were absolutely abysmal at the time. Something tells me that more people would have been upset about credit, than the amassador games. And sure, I guess they could've ported together a larger variety of GBA games and let ambassadors choose, but honestly how much time would Nintendo have had to port many more games? You know?

 

[Guild McCommunist]

The issue with this is that Sony doesn't put their A-teams on handheld games like Nintendo. We'll never get an Uncharted for the Vita by Naughty Dog or a Vita God of War game made solely by Santa Monica. Nintendo puts their main-teams on handheld games which is why their games come out as polished as they do.

Yet these Uncharteds and God of Wars are still pretty damn good so who gives a fuck whose making them.

Uh, no. Those controls were only good with those games because the DS lacked an analog stick. A 3DS Zelda should keep the controls from OOT 3D (Circle-pad for movement).

Hell that's not even an excuse, we've had Super Mario 64 and Kingdom Hearts run without an analog stick so why does a topdown Zelda have to suffer through awful controls? Not to mention the games were just terribly designed.

 

[TripleSMoon]

Hell that's not even an excuse, we've had Super Mario 64 and Kingdom Hearts run without an analog stick so why does a topdown Zelda have to suffer through awful controls? Not to mention the games were just terribly designed.

The stylus motion controls were enough to turn me off after playing a grand total of ONCE. Regardless of how "good" they were or not, I hate touch controls as gimmicks. There's literally no logical reason to add touch controls for movement, and remove traditional dpad/circle pad for the sake of such a ridiculous gimmick. Plus, there are tons of good DS RPGs out there (most that I've played, in fact) that use traditional controls, but have fully usable touch screen movement and controls as well, as an option. They dont force them down your throat like Zelda does.

 

[DiscostewSM]

I kinda agree Foxi4, but at the same time, you have to remember that the eShop's choices were absolutely abysmal at the time. Something tells me that more people would have been upset about credit, than the amassador games. And sure, I guess they could've ported together a larger variety of GBA games and let ambassadors choose, but honestly how much time would Nintendo have had to port many more games? You know?

I honestly don't think they ported them. More of what they did with running DS games via a hypervisor, but probably have some emulation for those things the 3DS can't do. Probably some tuning on an individual title basis, but most of the work has been done as shown by the number of titles already available to Ambassadors.

I've noticed a rather lack of Virtual Console games being released in NA for the 3DS recently. Japan continues to get more, and Europe has a decent set.