New Call of Duty announcement confirmed

[Guild McCommunist]

From the blind, ignorant minds of Activision.

Because other franchises don't do this at all?

It's more like "if it still sells, why fix it?" I know I'll probably get some "master race gamers" yell at me for this comparison, but look at Dota 2.

It plays, according to my friends, almost exactly like the original Dota. Why? Because fans don't want anything else. They don't want a drastic change. In their eyes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

For Activision, they still are able to sell millions upon millions of copies of CoD (on launch, mind you), which shows that their fans feel the same. Even when they had the fierce competition in Battlefield 3, which some thought was gonna be a "CoD killer", MW3 still broke sales records and outsold BF3.

If you're gonna talk about "OH IT'S $50 WORTH OF DLC", I'll point you to Guild Wars. They only made money on selling new $50 campaigns every year. I mean the campaigns introduced entirely new stories, new classes, new skills, and many other improvements, but it was still $50 for a game that ran on the same engine and had the same basic mechanics.

I'm not even a big CoD fan but if you really think every CoD game is identical then you're really quite wrong. Similar? Oh yes. But they add new stuff, it's not like every franchise does drastic transitions with every game.

 

[R2DJ]

Because other franchises don't do this at all?

It's more like "if it still sells, why fix it?" I know I'll probably get some "master race gamers" yell at me for this comparison, but look at Dota 2.

It plays, according to my friends, almost exactly like the original Dota. Why? Because fans don't want anything else. They don't want a drastic change. In their eyes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

For Activision, they still are able to sell millions upon millions of copies of CoD (on launch, mind you), which shows that their fans feel the same. Even when they had the fierce competition in Battlefield 3, which some thought was gonna be a "CoD killer", MW3 still broke sales records and outsold BF3.

If you're gonna talk about "OH IT'S $50 WORTH OF DLC", I'll point you to Guild Wars. They only made money on selling new $50 campaigns every year. I mean the campaigns introduced entirely new stories, new classes, new skills, and many other improvements, but it was still $50 for a game that ran on the same engine and had the same basic mechanics.

I'm not even a big CoD fan but if you really think every CoD game is identical then you're really quite wrong. Similar? Oh yes. But they add new stuff, it's not like every franchise does drastic transitions with every game.

It also depends on the fanbase. Since FPS is the most in-demand (and oversaturated) genre in video games, you can take 5,000 casual at least and they won't care if an annual FPS title is fed to them, regardless of successors of titles having improvements or not. Look at Guitar Hero. Activision did well with the promotion of Warriors of Rock. They had a monthly reveal of 25 songs for the tracklist. What happens at the end? A month after release, only 86,000 units were sold. Why? Because the fans had enough of the annual release of GH, with each release only having a new tracklist and some minor tweaks that the casual won't even notice. New flames when you hit notes? Innovative! Granted if GH had the fanbase of CoD then maybe we should be seeing GH games a lot more.

As to the bolded quote, unfortunately Activision gets away with it and as a result it will receive a backlash. Doesn't it say a lot that for one month, people switched over from playing the regular match modes to joining random private lobbies for a game of Infection or Drop Zone? The community turned private modes to public. I didn't really follow the release of MW3 but I'm assuming a lot of people didn't really know about these modes but thanks to word of mouth, they have. I didn't, because I was only hyped up on Survival Spec Ops.

 

[Qtis]

Don't like it, don't buy it. Anyone heard of that?

"Hurr durr.. CoD is a must-buy even for all people who hate it. Hurr durr. "

Not..

Even though they make new games yearly, it doesn't really change the fact that they could just do what Blizzard did/does with WoW. Game costs to buy + monthly subscription = Profit. It's possible and very easy to do.

 

[Master Mo]

I think people are wrong in saying "Don't like it, don't buy it"...

Let's take Fifa as an example: Both Fifa and CoD have annual releases and even if you think the changes aren't drastic enough to warrent a purchase of a new game they force you to do it, since these games are so online-heavy and if you don't buy the new game you'll see in a month, that all your friends already did and you are the only one still on the last years game!

Me and my friend enjoysed Blops on PS3 even with MW3 already released but after 2 months nearly noone plays it anymore online (aside of random matches)...

Therefor it definitely is not the same. The community forces you to upgrade to the newest game and that wouldn't happen if there is no new release!

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Me and my friend enjoysed Blops on PS3 even with MW3 already released but after 2 months nearly noone plays it anymore online (aside of random matches)...

For Xbox Live at least, plenty of people still play almost every CoD. I see people on my friend's list still playing MW2.

EDIT: For reference, here's the latest Top 20 Xbox Live games (via http://majornelson.com/)

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
Call of Duty: Black Ops
FIFA 12
Battlefield 3
Halo: Reach
Modern Warfare 2
Skyrim
Gears of War 3
NBA 2K12
Mass Effect 3
GTA IV
Forza Motorsport 4
NHL12
Madden NFL 12
Halo 3
Saints Row: The Third
Red Dead Redemption
Call of Duty 4
Call of Duty: World at War
Sniper Elite V2 DEMO

 

[SinHarvest24]

You guys give CoD way more hate than Pokemon. Both basically does the same thing.


OT: If it's Black Ops 2, i'll probably get it cause almost everyone from BO have migrated to MW3/the newer game, BO servers are so dead...

 

[emigre]

GBAtemp really is a broken record when it comes to CoD. They don't like CoD because it's the same game but happily buy the next Pokemon game.

 

[Midna]

Ooh, can't wait. Another game boasting original ideas and concepts that can advance the genre!

 

[AlanJohn]

GBAtemp really is a broken record when it comes to CoD. They don't like CoD because it's the same game but happily buy the next Pokemon game.

At least the new Pokemon games add new stuff and also stick with the core gameplay, and even a better online experience.
CoD on the other hand is the exact same bullshit that is becoming shittier after every single game.

 

[emigre]

At least the new CoD games add new stuff and also stick with the core gameplay, and even a better online experience.
Pokemon on the other hand is the exact same bullshit that is becoming shittier after every single game.

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[Fudge]

Pokemon Black and White 2. Nuff said.

Also, CoD4 is still fun!

 

[Midna]

At least the new CoD games add new stuff and also stick with the core gameplay, and even a better online experience.
Pokemon on the other hand is the exact same bullshit that is becoming shittier after every single game.

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Pokemon does consistently add some new elements of gameplay with every release. At least they're sort of trying.
Nowadays CoD doesn't even get that, just a recycled engine a few new maps and a campaign.

 

[emigre]

Pokemon does consistently add some new elements of gameplay with every release. At least they're sort of trying.
Nowadays CoD doesn't even get that, just a recycled engine a few new maps and a campaign.

I have played every Pokemon game since Red and Blue to the remakes of Gold and Silver. There was a good number of changes between gen one to gen two. Since than the changes in Pokemon have been minimal, adding in another 100 or so Pokemon just doesn't cut it anymore. The games became samey and dull. To complain about CoD's lack of imagination yet still happily buying the next Pokemon game just illustrates the double standards on this forum.

 

[camurso_]

I like CoD and will play it if it comes out for wii.
Never liked Pokemon since it came out for gameboy...

 

[Janthran]

BECAUSE THE LAST ONES WERE GREAT AND UNIQUE RIGHT

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[Guild McCommunist]

B/W has moving battle scenes.

AW MAN SO INNOVATIVE.

EDIT: And by "innovative" I mean they replaced a bunch of jpegs with gifs basically.

CoD does consistently add some new elements of gameplay with every release. At least they're sort of trying.
Nowadays Pokemon doesn't even get that, just a recycled engine a few new Pokemon and mini-games.

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What makes CoD so much worse than Pokemon? CoD adds new weapons, new modes (zombies, Survival Spec Ops or whatever it's called, etc), new maps, a new campaign, and new perks (?). Pokemon adds new weapons Pokemon, new modes (2v2, 3v3), new maps locations, a new campaign, and new perks moves.

 

[Janthran]

B/W has moving battle scenes.

AW MAN SO INNOVATIVE.

EDIT: And by "innovative" I mean they replaced a bunch of jpegs with gifs basically.

CoD does consistently add some new elements of gameplay with every release. At least they're sort of trying.
Nowadays Pokemon doesn't even get that, just a recycled engine a few new Pokemon and mini-games.

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What makes CoD so much worse than Pokemon? CoD adds new weapons, new modes (zombies, Survival Spec Ops or whatever it's called, etc), new maps, a new campaign, and new perks (?). Pokemon adds new weapons Pokemon, new modes (2v2, 3v3), new maps locations, a new campaign, and new perks moves.

I agree. I'm not going to bother defending Pokemon because if you strip it down to gameplay it's really not that great of a game.
I've never actually played CoD, so..

 

[Alex221]

maybe its black ops 2 for 360/ps3/ps vita

 

[omgpwn666]

Call of Duty : Black and White

(Sorry if I am stealing this lame joke from someone else)

 

[Deleted User]

B/W has moving battle scenes.

AW MAN SO INNOVATIVE.

EDIT: And by "innovative" I mean they replaced a bunch of jpegs with gifs basically.

CoD does consistently add some new elements of gameplay with every release. At least they're sort of trying.
Nowadays Pokemon doesn't even get that, just a recycled engine a few new Pokemon and mini-games.

...

What makes CoD so much worse than Pokemon? CoD adds new weapons, new modes (zombies, Survival Spec Ops or whatever it's called, etc), new maps, a new campaign, and new perks (?). Pokemon adds new weapons Pokemon, new modes (2v2, 3v3), new maps locations, a new campaign, and new perks moves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgfTnxWEgfg&feature=related

Kids never did this during the lunch table while they played pokemon.