Hacking SNEEK+DI quick guide

[XFlak]

lol, well if I'm going crazy I'm glad I'm not the only one

 

[DeadlyFoez]

We are all freaking crazy. If you honestly take in to grasp the reality of your existence then you will understand that we are all crazy.

 

[doveman]

So I've currently got Priloader autobooting to USB GX loader (all from USB HDD, no SD). I want to use Sneek to run one game. Is there a way to make it easy to swap between Sneek and USB GX Loader (or will Sneek boot to the Channels menu and let me load USB GX loader from there) or will I just have to put the SD card in when I want to use Sneek and remove it when I want to use USB GX loader?

 

[XFlak]

u can launch sneek or uneek using the neek2o channel (ie. nswitch). This will allow you to boot FAT:\sneek\kernel.bin without requiring bootmii or a bootmii folder on your sd card.

 

[doveman]

u can launch sneek or uneek using the neek2o channel (ie. nswitch). This will allow you to boot FAT:\sneek\kernel.bin without requiring bootmii or a bootmii folder on your sd card.

My USB HD has a NTFS partition (it's in my media player and holds my video/audio files) followed by a FAT32 partition, which works fine with USB GX Loader, but on the neek20 thread someone posted "Remember your fat 32 partition must be the first partition on your disk or it will not be recognized" so I'm not sure it will work for me.

 

[XFlak]

if you're using sneek it will make no difference when actually booting into sneek, that being said, sneek+di might not be able to find games saved to your FAT32 partition. You should really consider reformatting, NTFS is unnecessary on hard drives intended for use with the Wii, it's all about FAT32 these days.

 

[doveman]

if you're using sneek it will make no difference when actually booting into sneek, that being said, sneek+di might not be able to find games saved to your FAT32 partition. You should really consider reformatting, NTFS is unnecessary on hard drives intended for use with the Wii, it's all about FAT32 these days.

Sorry you've lost me. Are you saying that with sneek (i.e. booted from SD) it will find my games on my USB HDD 2nd partition FAT32, but that sneek+di might not? I don't really get the difference between sneek and sneek+DI but I thought sneek+DI was better/recommended.

I can't reformat as my media player requires the NTFS partition, so I have to use a second FAT32 partition for the Wii. I'm pretty sure the media player requires it's partition to be first to boot as well, so I can't swap them over.

 

[XFlak]

I was saying you won't be able to boot into uneek or uneek+di if you FAT32 partition is 2nd, but you'll be able to boot into sneek and sneek+di. However, sneek+di probably won't be able to see any games you have on your FAT32 partition (and sneek doesn't even look for games on the HDD).

 

[doveman]

I was saying you won't be able to boot into uneek or uneek+di if you FAT32 partition is 2nd, but you'll be able to boot into sneek and sneek+di. However, sneek+di probably won't be able to see any games you have on your FAT32 partition (and sneek doesn't even look for games on the HDD).

I'm not sure about the last point, because the first post under "Filestructure for Sneek" says "usb:\games\a_game example: usb:\games\RMGE01" but if that is the case, I guess I can just install sneek + my game to my SD card and then I'll just have to take that out when I want to boot to USB Loader GX to play my other games?

 

[XFlak]

no, u can have your sd card setup to boot into neek and leave it in your wii all the time, then when you want to access neek just launch the neek2o channel (ie. nswitch dol). But that still won't fix your issue of loading games from a HDD via neek+di. I know sneek+di allows you to load gamecube games from your sd card (using DML), but I'm not sure about wii games saved to the sd card.

 

[obcd]

I made a version once that could load wii games from the sd card, but it's pretty outdated.
The loading speed also wasn't perfect.
It's still somewhere in the tutorial section here I guess.

 

[doveman]

no, u can have your sd card setup to boot into neek and leave it in your wii all the time, then when you want to access neek just launch the neek2o channel (ie. nswitch dol). But that still won't fix your issue of loading games from a HDD via neek+di. I know sneek+di allows you to load gamecube games from your sd card (using DML), but I'm not sure about wii games saved to the sd card.

OK. I thought with the sd card in with sneek installed it would always boot to that. I thought perhaps the issue of requiring the FAT32 partition to be first was a limitation of neek20 but you say sneek has it as well.

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[shortz1994]

your sd card would be a fat32 already in order to run homebrew. so it will work with sneek just fine, i have two differnt sd cards one for "normal use. an one with sneek set up..
i know it's really not needed buti like my stuff nice an neat, an non confusing to the kids.(plus they can't screw up my sneek card)

 

[obcd]

If I remember well, recent revisions of sneek+di and sneek2o+di store diconfig.bin on the harddisk.
Besides that, they will probably hang until a valid partition is mounted from the harddisk.
Another issue is the fact that latest revisions of sneek2o+di are broken.
Since it only tries to mount the first active fat32 partition, it won't succeed.

 

[doveman]

If I remember well, recent revisions of sneek+di and sneek2o+di store diconfig.bin on the harddisk.
Besides that, they will probably hang until a valid partition is mounted from the harddisk.
Another issue is the fact that latest revisions of sneek2o+di are broken.
Since it only tries to mount the first active fat32 partition, it won't succeed.

So maybe I can just use sneek/sneek2o (no +di)?

 

[obcd]

di is the module that makes it possible to play backups from the harddisk (or sd card) So, it won't work to play that game without it.
Maybe you could use an usb stick for your neek setup and that game? (I know it will be a lot of work to remove your harddisk and insert that stick every time.)
Another option might be modifying the neek sources so that it searches for the first valid fat32 partition.

 

[doveman]

di is the module that makes it possible to play backups from the harddisk (or sd card) So, it won't work to play that game without it.
Maybe you could use an usb stick for your neek setup and that game? (I know it will be a lot of work to remove your harddisk and insert that stick every time.)
Another option might be modifying the neek sources so that it searches for the first valid fat32 partition.

So why does the first post show the filestructure for sneek and uneek as including "usb:\games\a_game example: usb:\games\RMGE01" and if they won't play backups from USB or SD, what's their purpose?

I did think of using a USB stick but I decided it would be too inconvenient for my Mum to be swapping it over with the HDD. She could cope with having to put in/remove the SD card though

I do hope someone does modify neek to search for the first valid fat32 partition as it seems a rather unnecessary limitation. Beyond my abilities I'm afraid.

 

[XFlak]

So why does the first post show the filestructure for sneek and uneek as including "usb:gamesa_game example: usb:gamesRMGE01" and if they won't play backups from USB or SD, what's their purpose?

I'm pretty sure that it's just outdated information. IIRC, the first releases of sneek were able to load ONE game at a time (someone plz correct me if I'm mistaken), but then that was removed later on in sneek's development

 

[obcd]

sneek uses an emulated on the sd card. So, if the nand contents get corrupted, you can simply fix things with a pc.
uneek uses an emulated nand on the first active fat(32) partition of your usb drive.
DI makes it possible to run backup games from the usb drive. the neek2o di can run wbfs games, while the classic neek needs the games extracted with the discex program (fst extracted)
The advantage of neek2o is that it uses the same game file format as most usb loaders do. (no need to convert your games)

Another advantage of sneek and uneek is that the emulated nand size isn't limited 2 512MB. The emulated nand can be several gig's in size.

Of cause it's an unnecessary limitation. It's just there untill someone feels the need to improve it.
Most people use a harddisk dedicated to their wii, so they don't mind it being formatted as fat32 with a 32KB cluster size.

 

[doveman]

So why does the first post show the filestructure for sneek and uneek as including "usb:gamesa_game example: usb:gamesRMGE01" and if they won't play backups from USB or SD, what's their purpose?

I'm pretty sure that it's just outdated information. IIRC, the first releases of sneek were able to load ONE game at a time (someone plz correct me if I'm mistaken), but then that was removed later on in sneek's development

Oh, OK. How many games do you load at a time now then