On the recent update of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe v1.1 Nintendo has removed the hand gesture of Splatoon Girl because some people might feel offended by it.
This is insane. Even Mario Kart isn't safe from what this or that might be considered "offensive."
Splatoon Girl was only doing the hand gesture "YES!" and this is deemed unacceptable.
For those that may defend the censorship, there are people who may indeed find it disrespectful but that's them and in real life, this is a fictitious, harmless video game that should be left alone from being censored.
So like, what about the other inkling doesn't he do that to?
Regardless I think its clever how Nintendo can manage how to hide these little quirks in game, sadly though I'm to stupid to understand them for the most part
Oh please, it is cheaper to do it this way, and they already do it all the time.
E.g. in video games, how to make a SMB2 suitable for the west? Just take that other game we had and paste a Mario sprite over it!
Or in Anime even, how to make some good robot anime for the west, ah, just slap three random Japanese shows together, change the character names and rewrite the script a little to make it seem a whole thing and call it Robotech.
Etc.
the thing is, in any educational context, the child would see the gesture somewhere and you as a parent would instantly tell it that this is a very rude gesture.
here, they see this very rude gesture out of its widely known context and by the time you could try to explain to them that this is considered very rude and other people might get really mad at them for it, they've already been imitating it for a while in an entirely different context.
well I really understand what you mena there, but I still think a lot of " time influence" here, in old times stuff like middle finger where totally offensive , now i'ts mostly like a joke
" wow how mature he is giving me the finger" or something alike?
Also other stuff became very offensive .. so well I think the her gesture was " on the past", I know this varies but I don't think this can be terrible for a children...
Kind off:
(NOT)FUN PERSONAL STORY
when I was a kid I watched the "Stuart Little" extras that had some bloopers, one of them a fat rat Pinch the female rat butt
I really had no idea the meaning of this, for me " butt" (bunda i you want to know how it's in portuguese hahha) was a funny word so I thought it was a funny joke, so I repeated with my mom one time and I got slapped
SECOND I just remembered when writing this XD
I loved the Pingu " cartoon" and all when I was a kid too.
One time I noticed Pingu called his dad something like "Paaapiii", I thought it should be a caring way to call your dad, so I repeated again with my dad this time .. and I got slapped (Maybe it sounded gay? IDK :V)
I think the problem there wasn't what I learned by the shows, but how my parents took it , but you know, kids from old times :v slap first and maybe ask latter xD
the most problem is not the kids but how the parents gonna handle that ... it could become a funny story " How I got slaped as a Kid for wha i learned in a videogame" hahahah
And if it was because the parent could don't let the kid play it because of this gesture ... now, in 2017.. please xp he gonna see it soon or latter in somewhere, if not had learned about yet
(pretentious) Western parents looking for a game: Another shitty cartoon from Japan with unproportionate eyes, leave that shit away, it is a bad influence!
You know that this screen gonna only be seen before the game was bough, right ? it don't change the " cover effect at all" even more because they know the thing came from japan ... I don't know .. I was the only expecting stuff different form what I "have in my neighbor" when I watched or played something from another country? :/ why for usa it was really necessary to be changed?
its heavily out of proportions and to any parent in the 90's, extremely weird looking (not to mention only a handful of anime being present and the entire anime porn thing that was probably more well known around that time in general)
this menu was entirely changed because in europe, a drawing game that advertises itself as somehow manga-related is automatically seen as intrinsically less serious.
so this change was made to appeal to western tastes. since this anime chick has literally no relevance to the program at hand, this was the second best thing after just not releasting it at all
hentai anime where really well know that time, when anime where starting to get known by the world? ? I mean .. there was no internet haha the "adultier cartoon" I heard when I was a kid was Akira :v
I know that porn spread faster than nice shounen adventures but idk XDD
Also ok, maybe the girl looks less serious but still, why ?it just to show that you entered the animation, anime isan animation, i'ts talk even more than stick figures looking a TV
Lets look at this again
they need to show about animation
whats talk more abou that?
-An japanese animated cartoon girl
- A guy watching TV, taking photo , painting (to tell about music? wat)
also the western teaches about bad posture watching TV , totally wrong must be changed or our kids gonna get humps!!! Don't me that it don't because you agree that the inkling gesture can make your kid a rebel!
(I'm just joking, obviously XD)
I cant believe there are still people talking about this, please move on its such an insignificant little change that none of you wouldve even noticed it had they not mentioned this in the patch notes.
I cant believe there are still people talking about this, please move on its such an insignificant little change that none of you wouldve even noticed it had they not mentioned this in the patch notes.
I agree that it should be removed in countries where it's considered a rude gesture, but I don't see why it should be removed everywhere around the world.
Since the language options and timezone choice allow a pretty acurate way to determinate the location of the console (even more in online play with the help of the IP) and Nintendo should be able to slowly build-up a database with which gesture is rude where (I guess this update came due to complains in one country where this very gesture is considered rude. And for such a large company that underlines the importans of family-friendlyness it shouldn't be to much work).
It also would fit with there new politics to just show the country instead of the specific state in online matches (they only write US instead of NY and Germany instead of Bavaria in the Deluxe version which wasn't the case in the WiiU version)
Well its because you can play with people all around the world online. As soon as you start having animations appear differently in the same play session with other people you start to affect how the game plays. I'd have to imagine that keeping the gesture the same in some territories while changing it in others would lead to unforeseen effects in online gameplay. Now, I can agree that in terms of offline play, I don't see why they couldn't keep the animation as is in territories where its not an offensive gesture, but I completely understand why online it has to change worldwide.
The human race has survived dinosaurs, plagues, disease, each other, and other threats from nature and elsewhere, and this is how we behave once we reach a comfy spot in history?!?!
The human race has survived dinosaurs, plagues, disease, each other, and other threats from nature and elsewhere, and this is how we behave once we reach a comfy spot in history?!?!
And hey they could keep the offensive gesture if they wanted to up the rating to Teen, which would be incredibly stupid and counteractive to what the entire Mario Kart series aims to be.
Ironic that a change meant to avoid offending people ended up offending a whole bunch of ninnies.
A change doesn't automatically equal censorship, get off your self-righteous crusade already and learn how the world works. Even Japan alters products to fit their market so drop the "USA just hates anime and freedom" dribble. No Japanese developer is crying themselves to sleep over this waiting for you to fight for them because they're adults.
Actually that's not completely required, that's basically piling on a middle finger to an already considered crude gesture here in the States (and maybe other places.)
Basically this gesture View attachment 87170
Is considered offensive.
Again with Rosie the Riveter, it's about hand placement. She's directly rolling up her sleeves
Notice hand placement View attachment 87171
And the one that's "offensive" View attachment 87172
They aren't the same, one in indicates rolling up one's sleeves to get some work done. The other here in the States is deemed, "Up Yours"
Edit: Holy shit, America actually has some explainable culture differences!
your completely right they arnt the same cause if you notice the offensive gesture is holding your arm in front of you were the squid girl has her arm out to the side which as far as I new wear 2 different locations tho I could be wrong and a persons front and side may acully occupy the same space
ether way holding your arm out to the side is not the same as the offensive gesture
let me put it this way. let's say you have a game in the States, where you use the word "fanny" because you think talking about butts is funny. Try and take that to the UK? You're going to have to change that word or else you're totally going to be misunderstood. (it means something very different there and isn't terribly polite).
If you see that as "censorship", then I think you should look into how censorship is defined. This should probably be seen more as translation error than speech restriction.
Offensive to whom and why? This gesture is universally understood as one of triumph all around the world, it's not exactly a Nazi salute or a middle finger. This kind of censorship offends me more than others because it's based or kowtowing to people who invent reasons to be outraged, and if you give them an inch, you're giving them a mile, every single time.
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